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From: Jeff on 25 Jan 2008 18:23 SKD wrote: > On Jan 26, 4:03 am, The One True Zhen Jue <Andrew_King...(a)yahoo.com> > wrote: >> On Jan 25, 12:00 pm, BreastImplantAwareness.org <B...(a)mundo.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Jeff P Utz claims: >>>> I am nearly 100% sure that autism is not caused by vaccines, which is the question >>>> Vaccines don't tamper with the immune system. >> Vaccines Strengthen the Immune System. >> >> Do make a note of it. > > In theory yes. However there is always a tipping point, overload the > system and it might break it down. I for one am keeping an open mind > on incidences of autism and early childhood diabetes skyrocketing with > aggressive immunisation. They're also increasing with skyrocketing internet usage! And skyrocketing soccer and NASCAR popularity. Correlation does not mean causation. I keep an open mind. And everything I have read and learned tells me that autism and diabetes are NOT caused by immunizations. And lives are saved every day by immunizations. Jeff
From: Jeff on 25 Jan 2008 19:53 SKD wrote: > On Jan 26, 10:23 am, Jeff <kidsdoc2...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> SKD wrote: >>> On Jan 26, 4:03 am, The One True Zhen Jue <Andrew_King...(a)yahoo.com> >>> wrote: >>>> On Jan 25, 12:00 pm, BreastImplantAwareness.org <B...(a)mundo.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>> Jeff P Utz claims: >>>>>> I am nearly 100% sure that autism is not caused by vaccines, which is the question >>>>>> Vaccines don't tamper with the immune system. >>>> Vaccines Strengthen the Immune System. >>>> Do make a note of it. >>> In theory yes. However there is always a tipping point, overload the >>> system and it might break it down. I for one am keeping an open mind >>> on incidences of autism and early childhood diabetes skyrocketing with >>> aggressive immunisation. >> They're also increasing with skyrocketing internet usage! And >> skyrocketing soccer and NASCAR popularity. Correlation does not mean >> causation. >> >> I keep an open mind. And everything I have read and learned tells me >> that autism and diabetes are NOT caused by immunizations. And lives are >> saved every day by immunizations. >> >> Jeff > > From a layman's perspective when I read the cause of type 1 diabetes, > it is where something confuses the immune system and it attacks > healthy beta cells. Something is causing this confusion to occur more > often in the same time frame as aggressive immunisation was > prescribed. Immunisation stimulates body's immune system - does it > over stimulates in some cases? The body's immune system is stimulated millions of times a day, whenever we get a cut or cold and from bacteria and viruses in our respiratory tract and digestive tract (there are more bacteria cells in our digestive tract than there are human cells in the body). The number of antigens that are in an immunization are relatively small, maybe a few thousand, at most. So the challenge to the immune system is quite small compared to what the immune system does everyday. There is no reason to think that diabets is caused by immunization. > Many parent I know will stagger MMR > into 2 steps, why can't the doctor advise people to be safer if there > is reasonable doubt, why is it such a taboo to question. There is no reasonable doubt, though. It is more expensive to get the MMR in parts and not as well tested. Plus, doctors don't like to poke kids. Jeff
From: Jan Drew on 25 Jan 2008 19:52 "Jeff" repeated the repeated excuse repeatedly............. > Correlation does not mean causation. > > > Jeff
From: David Wright on 25 Jan 2008 20:49 In article <a0911a47-865a-458e-80e5-30f4dd801924(a)h11g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, SKD <sherkd(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >On Jan 26, 4:03 am, The One True Zhen Jue <Andrew_King...(a)yahoo.com> >wrote: >> On Jan 25, 12:00 pm, BreastImplantAwareness.org <B...(a)mundo.com> >> wrote: >> >> > Jeff P Utz claims: >> >> > > I am nearly 100% sure that autism is not caused by vaccines, which >is the question >> > >Vaccines don't tamper with the immune system. >> >> Vaccines Strengthen the Immune System. >> >> Do make a note of it. > >In theory yes. However there is always a tipping point, overload the >system and it might break it down. I for one am keeping an open mind >on incidences of autism and early childhood diabetes skyrocketing with >aggressive immunisation. It's questionable that autism is, in fact, skyrocketing. -- David Wright :: alphabeta at copper.net These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "Without Bush, what will America's schoolchildren have to look down on?" -- Bill Maher
From: Jan Drew on 26 Jan 2008 00:36 "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:gwvmj.1568$75.608(a)trnddc05... > SKD wrote: >> On Jan 26, 10:23 am, Jeff <kidsdoc2...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> SKD wrote: >>>> On Jan 26, 4:03 am, The One True Zhen Jue <Andrew_King...(a)yahoo.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>> On Jan 25, 12:00 pm, BreastImplantAwareness.org <B...(a)mundo.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> Jeff P Utz claims: >>>>>>> I am nearly 100% sure that autism is not caused by vaccines, which >>>>>>> is the question >>>>>>> Vaccines don't tamper with the immune system. >>>>> Vaccines Strengthen the Immune System. >>>>> Do make a note of it. >>>> In theory yes. However there is always a tipping point, overload the >>>> system and it might break it down. I for one am keeping an open mind >>>> on incidences of autism and early childhood diabetes skyrocketing with >>>> aggressive immunisation. >>> They're also increasing with skyrocketing internet usage! And >>> skyrocketing soccer and NASCAR popularity. Correlation does not mean >>> causation. >>> >>> I keep an open mind. And everything I have read and learned tells me >>> that autism and diabetes are NOT caused by immunizations. And lives are >>> saved every day by immunizations. >>> >>> Jeff >> >> From a layman's perspective when I read the cause of type 1 diabetes, >> it is where something confuses the immune system and it attacks >> healthy beta cells. Something is causing this confusion to occur more >> often in the same time frame as aggressive immunisation was >> prescribed. Immunisation stimulates body's immune system - does it >> over stimulates in some cases? > > The body's immune system is stimulated millions of times a day, whenever > we get a cut or cold and from bacteria and viruses in our respiratory > tract and digestive tract (there are more bacteria cells in our digestive > tract than there are human cells in the body). > > The number of antigens that are in an immunization are relatively small, > maybe a few thousand, at most. So the challenge to the immune system is > quite small compared to what the immune system does everyday. > > There is no reason to think that diabets is caused by immunization. > >> Many parent I know will stagger MMR >> into 2 steps, why can't the doctor advise people to be safer if there >> is reasonable doubt, why is it such a taboo to question. > > There is no reasonable doubt, though. It is more expensive to get the MMR > in parts and not as well tested. Plus, doctors don't like to poke kids. > > Jeff No wonder you are notkidsdoc. Web Results 1 - 10 of about 24,600 for MMR doubts. (0.29 seconds) http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G1-113519698.html 'Lancet' admits MMR doubts. http://www.cyclingforums.com/archive/index.php/t-66599.html New support for MMR doubts http://www.mercola.com/2001/jan/21/vaccine_mmr.htm Doctors Admit MMR Vaccine Doubts http://www.mercola.com/2000/oct/22/shoot_first_2.htm Shoot first, ask questions later. http://www.mercola.com/2000/oct/15/vaccines.htm Shots in the Dark
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