Vaccination with live Herpes virus?
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From: hot_chick1003 on 1 Jul 2008 21:38 If you're a prostitute and thus know you're at a high risk of getting Herpes, would it be possible or advisable to vaccinate with the live virus? For instance, condoms do offer some protection against Herpes and have been suggested as a way of lessening the outbreak area in the event the virus is contracted, so if you knew you were going to be infected, would it thus be better to infect a small place on the skin somewhere so you didn't have a huge outbreak?
From: D. C. Sessions on 1 Jul 2008 22:13 In message <3a5c1914-cd9d-420b-b1bb-cc60a93174d6(a)k30g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, hot_chick1003(a)rock.com wrote: > If you're a prostitute and thus know you're at a high risk of getting > Herpes, would it be possible or advisable to vaccinate with the live > virus? In a word, no. If it were that easy, we'd have vaccines against everything. -- | "Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against | | unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct | | before reason can act on them" -- Thomas Jefferson | +-------- D. C. Sessions <dcs(a)lumbercartel.com> ---------+
From: M2slo2cht on 1 Jul 2008 23:52 hot_chick1003 writes: > if you knew you were going to be >infected, would it thus be better to infect a small place on the skin >somewhere so you didn't have a huge outbreak? Here's a copy/paste of an explanation I just gave in another thread. It may help you understand why your idea won't work. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >This is what I don't really understand. In my reading I remember >something about an outbreak occurring before symptoms, ie virus being >present on the skin. So can I be active and not know it yet. Yes, virus can be shed from the skin even when there is no visible outbreak. I'll explain further below. >Second thing is where does the virus appear, only on the site of the >first outbreak. I don't really understand why other body parts are not >active. After infection, the virus sets up housekeeping in the Sacral Ganglia where it lies dormant most of the time doing no harm. The Sacral Ganglia is at the base of the spine and is the root of the sensory nerves serving the skin in the boxer shorts area. Occasionally, the dormant virus reactivates and starts replicating (pumping out new viruses) at which point the new viruses travels up a nerve (staying within the nerve) to the surface of the skin. The location where it surfaces is dependant upon which nerve it travels. Sometimes it goes up the same nerve it came in on when infection took place. But it can also travel up a different nerve to surface in a different location. The mechanism that causes the dormant virus to reactivate isn't fully understood but a number of possible triggers are identified. Certain foods, stress, friction, that sort of thing. Everybody has different triggers. The choice of which nerve to take to the skin's service seems to be the path of least resistance but that path is impossible to predict. As I mentioned, viral shedding can occur without symptoms but at some point the volume of virus becomes so great that an outbreak is the result. So that's why you get virus accumulating on the skin surface before the symptoms appear. I hope that helps clear things up a little. M2
From: hot_chick1003 on 11 Jul 2008 19:46 On Jul 1, 8:52 pm, M2slo2...(a)nospam.invalid wrote: > hot_chick1003 writes: > > if you knew you were going to be > >infected, would it thus be better to infect a small place on the skin > >somewhere so you didn't have a huge outbreak? > > Here's a copy/paste of an explanation I just gave in another thread. > It may help you understand why your idea won't work. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >This is what I don't really understand. In my reading I remember > >something about an outbreak occurring before symptoms, ie virus being > >present on the skin. So can I be active and not know it yet. > > Yes, virus can be shed from the skin even when there is no visible > outbreak. I'll explain further below. > > >Second thing is where does the virus appear, only on the site of the > >first outbreak. I don't really understand why other body parts are not > >active. > > After infection, the virus sets up housekeeping in the Sacral Ganglia > where it lies dormant most of the time doing no harm. The Sacral > Ganglia is at the base of the spine and is the root of the sensory > nerves serving the skin in the boxer shorts area. Occasionally, the > dormant virus reactivates and starts replicating (pumping out new > viruses) at which point the new viruses travels up a nerve (staying > within the nerve) to the surface of the skin. The location where it > surfaces is dependant upon which nerve it travels. Sometimes it goes > up the same nerve it came in on when infection took place. But it can > also travel up a different nerve to surface in a different location. > The mechanism that causes the dormant virus to reactivate isn't fully > understood but a number of possible triggers are identified. Certain > foods, stress, friction, that sort of thing. Everybody has different > triggers. The choice of which nerve to take to the skin's service > seems to be the path of least resistance but that path is impossible > to predict. > As I mentioned, viral shedding can occur without symptoms but at some > point the volume of virus becomes so great that an outbreak is the > result. So that's why you get virus accumulating on the skin surface > before the symptoms appear. > > I hope that helps clear things up a little. > > M2 But I read that people who get Herpes 2 on their mouth don't get it on their genitals and vice versa. So while it's not the most ideal solution, it might be better than nothing if it was possible to infect a small place on your arm or something and then cover it for weeks until your body developed anti-bodies. This might be better then getting a full blown case of it in the genital region. See: http://www.herpes.com/hsv1-2.html They might want to see if this sort of pseudo-vaccination works. The same thing could be true for wart and cancer causing HPV. Couldn't they just infect you with it in a place where you wouldn't get warts or cancer, and then your body would develop anti-bodies, and then you wouldn't be able to get oral, genital, or anal warts or cancer.
From: MamaZ on 11 Jul 2008 20:15
Hi, This is so not true. It is entirely possible to get Herpes 2 in more than one place at the same time: I know, because I have Herpes 2 genitally AND on the palm of my hand (called Whitlow). Any more questions? mama z <hot_chick1003(a)rock.com> wrote in message news:dbb27485-ce00-4ec4-898d-f714d638b2d1(a)x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... But I read that people who get Herpes 2 on their mouth don't get it on their genitals and vice versa. So while it's not the most ideal solution, it might be better than nothing if it was possible to infect a small place on your arm or something and then cover it for weeks until your body developed anti-bodies. This might be better then getting a full blown case of it in the genital region. See: http://www.herpes.com/hsv1-2.html They might want to see if this sort of pseudo-vaccination works. The same thing could be true for wart and cancer causing HPV. Couldn't they just infect you with it in a place where you wouldn't get warts or cancer, and then your body would develop anti-bodies, and then you wouldn't be able to get oral, genital, or anal warts or cancer. |