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From: BradC on 9 Jul 2008 11:38 "Elflord" <abuse(a)aol.com> wrote in message news:slrng79e90.poh.abuse(a)panix2.panix.com... > On 2008-07-09, Steve Freides <steve(a)fridayscomputer.com> wrote: > >> Often 3/4 of the battle is asking the right question, and I don't >> consider it proselytizing to suggest that the wrong question may have >> been asked. > > OK, but this means that your position is to respond to almost any > question > with "wrong question. Here is my answer to the right question!" > > As I wrote previously, this at best demonstrates an egocentric world > view. [1] > >> Sorry if you think otherwise. In my opinion, anyone in the >> OP's position - wanting to exercise and lose weight - ought to be aware >> of the entire continuum of exercise possibilities, from pure > > That's *YOUR* opinion. It may not be OP's opinion (which doesn't seem to > matter, see (1)). > > If OP wants to "be aware" of this, they will ask a question about it. > > Unless the OP's question is obviously based on false premises, it seems > rather presumptuous to "correct" their question for the purpose of > proseletyzing. > > [snip] Yours is the egocentric police view. People are free to chime in and suggest better questions and the OP is free to filter them out. I for one have been happy a couple of times to find out I was asking the wrong question. Get used to the Internet and the free flow of information.
From: Elflord on 9 Jul 2008 12:19 On 2008-07-09, BradC <BradC(a)comcast.com> wrote: > Yours is the egocentric police view. How is it a "police" view, and what is "egocentric" about it ? > People are free to chime in and suggest better questions and Yes, they certainly are, and I never suggested otherwise. But when they always "chime in" with the same question, they are open to the criticism that they are more about pushing their agenda than they are about helping the OP. > the OP is free to filter them out. I for one > have been happy a couple of times to find out I was asking the wrong > question. Get used to the Internet and the free flow of information. My criticism of Steve's approach is part of this "internet" and "free flow of information" that you speak of. If you wish to be a champion of this "free slow of information", it is important that you are able to distinguish between criticism and censorship / enforcement. Cheers, -- Elflord
From: Chris Malcolm on 10 Jul 2008 23:16 In uk.rec.walking Steve Freides <steve(a)fridayscomputer.com> wrote: > Google the phrase strength-endurance, and don't settle for just a > treadmill. Google also "ross budget training" and read his web site. > There are a ton of things one can do, at home, for little or no money, > to build both strength and conditioning, and certainly for well less > than the cost of a treadmill of any sort. > My choice would be a kettlebell plus the book "Enter The Kettlebell" by > Pavel Tsatsouline - the combination will cost you about $200 and is > widely available. Or buy yourself a screw-on dumbbell set at the local > mega-mart plus a jump rope - that combination will cost you $50. Or check out the local charity shops and scrap yards. Dumb bell sets can often be found for a few dollars. Last time I visited my local scrap yard he had numbers of big exercise machines on sale as well, including treadmills. -- Chris Malcolm cam(a)infirmatics.ed.ac.uk DoD #205 IPAB, Informatics, JCMB, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK [http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/]
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