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From: JOHN on 8 Jun 2008 05:40
Remember when it says "trace" it equals 2000 parts per billion - see below
for dangers of 0.5 parts per billion, 2 parts per billion, 20 parts per
billion and 200 parts per billion. TRACE is 2000 parts per billion!

From Gary Goldman
Vaccines with trace amounts of Thimerosal, by definition, contain less than
1 microgram of mercury (Hg) per dose (
http://www.fda.gov/cber/vaccine/thimerosal.htm).

For example, consider that the reduced-Thimerosal flu vaccine with 0.0002%
mercury is equivalent to 1 microgram [µg] of Hg per 0.5 mL, or 2 µg of Hg
per mL, which is the same as 2000 µg per liter; or 2000 parts per billion
[ppb][2].

0.5 parts per billion (ppb) mercury has been shown to kill human
neuroblastoma cells (Parran et al., Toxicol Sci 2005; 86:132-40).
2 ppb mercury is the U.S. EPA limit for drinking water (
http://www.epa.gov/safewater/contaminants/index.html#mcls).
20 ppb mercury destroys neurite membrane structures (Leong et al.,
Neuroreport 2001:12733-7).
200 ppb mercury is the level in liquid that the EPA classifies as
hazardous waste
2000 ppb - TRACE is 2000 parts per b

*********
From HAPI

Vaccines Are Not Mercury Free

PRESS RELEASE - FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
August 12, 2004
Health Advocacy in the Public Interest (HAPI) Health Advocacy in the Public
Interest
Contact: Dawn Winkler 970-641-7413

Vaccines Are Not Mercury Free

After much public controversy surrounding the mercury content of childhood
vaccinations, Health Advocacy in the Public Interest (HAPI) raised $500 to
have four vaccines tested for heavy metal content. The vials were sent to
Doctor's Data, an independent lab which specializes in heavy metal testing.

Many manufacturers voluntarily began producing supposed "mercury free"
vaccines in 1999. Some product inserts currently claim that a "trace"
amount of mercury still exists in the final product but that the amount has
been greatly reduced. Others claim to be producing completely mercury free
products.

During an investigation into the mercury issue, HAPI learned that
Thimerosal, a 50% mercury compound, is still being used to produce most
vaccines and that the manufacturers are simply "filtering it out" of the
final product. However, according to Boyd Haley, PhD, Chemistry Department
Chair, University of Kentucky, mercury binds to the antigenic protein in the
vaccine and cannot be completely, 100% filtered out.

All four vaccine vials tested contained mercury despite manufacturer claims
that two of the vials were completely mercury free. All four vials also
contained aluminum, one nine times more than the other three, which
tremendously enhances the toxicity of mercury causing neuronal death in the
brain.

The mercury content of routine childhood vaccinations has been linked to the
current autism epidemic as well as numerous other neurological disorders
affecting children today. Currently, one in six children are affected in
some way and one in 250 children are diagnosed as autistic compared to one
in 10,000 prior to mercury containing vaccines.

It is the position of Dr. Haley as well as HAPI that if mercury can be
detected in any vaccine using standard instrumentation, the content should
be disclosed in the product insert and manufacturers should not be allowed
to call the product "mercury free".

Executive Director of HAPI, Dawn Winkler, met with FDA officials in Silver
Spring, Maryland on July 27, 2004 to discuss blatant mislabeling and
misrepresentation of ingredients in vaccinations which are licensed by the
FDA. Clearly, more testing is needed. The FDA has the ability and
authority to take on the necessary testing, however, at present, this task
sadly appears to be up to the public.

HAPI will be attempting to raise more funds to test more vaccines in an
effort to pressure the FDA to crack down on manufacturers to label their
products correctly. To help with this effort call 970-641-7413 or email
noshots(a)earthlink.net. (noshots(at)earthlink.net)



More..........



http://www.vaccinesafety.edu/thi-table.htm

http://www.fda.gov/cber/vaccine/thimerosal.htm

There is also the issue of not shaking the vial to distribute the contents,
which could mean an unfortunate child could get much more mercury than
intended

http://www.hapihealth.com/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1

And, more importantly in my opinion, vaccine injury is not simply about
the Thimerosal.




From: Citizen Jimserac on 8 Jun 2008 10:40
On Jun 8, 5:40 am, "JOHN" <j...(a)nospam.com> wrote:
> Remember when it says "trace" it equals 2000 parts per billion - see below
> for dangers of 0.5 parts per billion, 2 parts per billion, 20 parts per
> billion and 200 parts per billion. TRACE is 2000 parts per billion!
>
> From Gary Goldman
> Vaccines with trace amounts of Thimerosal, by definition, contain less than
> 1 microgram of mercury (Hg) per dose (http://www.fda.gov/cber/vaccine/thimerosal.htm).
>
> For example, consider that the reduced-Thimerosal flu vaccine with 0.0002%
> mercury is equivalent to 1 microgram [µg] of Hg per 0.5 mL, or 2 µg of Hg
> per mL, which is the same as 2000 µg per liter; or 2000 parts per billion
> [ppb][2].
>
> 0.5 parts per billion (ppb) mercury has been shown to kill human
> neuroblastoma cells (Parran et al., Toxicol Sci 2005; 86:132-40).
> 2 ppb mercury is the U.S. EPA limit for drinking water (http://www.epa.gov/safewater/contaminants/index.html#mcls).
> 20 ppb mercury destroys neurite membrane structures (Leong et al.,
> Neuroreport 2001:12733-7).
> 200 ppb mercury is the level in liquid that the EPA classifies as
> hazardous waste
> 2000 ppb - TRACE is 2000 parts per b
>
> *********
> From HAPI
>
> Vaccines Are Not Mercury Free
>
> PRESS RELEASE - FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
> August 12, 2004
> Health Advocacy in the Public Interest (HAPI) Health Advocacy in the Public
> Interest
> Contact: Dawn Winkler 970-641-7413
>
> Vaccines Are Not Mercury Free
>
> After much public controversy surrounding the mercury content of childhood
> vaccinations, Health Advocacy in the Public Interest (HAPI) raised $500 to
> have four vaccines tested for heavy metal content. The vials were sent to
> Doctor's Data, an independent lab which specializes in heavy metal testing..
>
> Many manufacturers voluntarily began producing supposed "mercury free"
> vaccines in 1999. Some product inserts currently claim that a "trace"
> amount of mercury still exists in the final product but that the amount has
> been greatly reduced. Others claim to be producing completely mercury free
> products.
>
> During an investigation into the mercury issue, HAPI learned that
> Thimerosal, a 50% mercury compound, is still being used to produce most
> vaccines and that the manufacturers are simply "filtering it out" of the
> final product. However, according to Boyd Haley, PhD, Chemistry Department
> Chair, University of Kentucky, mercury binds to the antigenic protein in the
> vaccine and cannot be completely, 100% filtered out.
>
> All four vaccine vials tested contained mercury despite manufacturer claims
> that two of the vials were completely mercury free. All four vials also
> contained aluminum, one nine times more than the other three, which
> tremendously enhances the toxicity of mercury causing neuronal death in the
> brain.
>
> The mercury content of routine childhood vaccinations has been linked to the
> current autism epidemic as well as numerous other neurological disorders
> affecting children today. Currently, one in six children are affected in
> some way and one in 250 children are diagnosed as autistic compared to one
> in 10,000 prior to mercury containing vaccines.
>
> It is the position of Dr. Haley as well as HAPI that if mercury can be
> detected in any vaccine using standard instrumentation, the content should
> be disclosed in the product insert and manufacturers should not be allowed
> to call the product "mercury free".
>
> Executive Director of HAPI, Dawn Winkler, met with FDA officials in Silver
> Spring, Maryland on July 27, 2004 to discuss blatant mislabeling and
> misrepresentation of ingredients in vaccinations which are licensed by the
> FDA. Clearly, more testing is needed. The FDA has the ability and
> authority to take on the necessary testing, however, at present, this task
> sadly appears to be up to the public.
>
> HAPI will be attempting to raise more funds to test more vaccines in an
> effort to pressure the FDA to crack down on manufacturers to label their
> products correctly. To help with this effort call 970-641-7413 or email
> nosh...(a)earthlink.net. (noshots(at)earthlink.net)
>
> More..........
>
> http://www.vaccinesafety.edu/thi-table.htm
>
> http://www.fda.gov/cber/vaccine/thimerosal.htm
>
> There is also the issue of not shaking the vial to distribute the contents,
> which could mean an unfortunate child could get much more mercury than
> intended
>
> http://www.hapihealth.com/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1
>
> And, more importantly in my opinion, vaccine injury is not simply about
> the Thimerosal.

WELL MARK PROBERT, DID YOU READ THIS?
Don't bother to respond, the BAN against
your hysterical innuendo is STILL (no surprise there)
in effect!!!

When will the ban be lifted?
I use a scientific formula, WHENEVER I FEEL LIKE IT!!!!

Bad news Proby, I DON'T feel like it today.

Your loss!!!

Citizen Jimserac
From: Peter Moran on 8 Jun 2008 17:35
"JOHN" <john(a)nospam.com> wrote in message
news:2Mydnc2cc4WJNNbVnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d(a)bt.com...
> Remember when it says "trace" it equals 2000 parts per billion - see below
> for dangers of 0.5 parts per billion, 2 parts per billion, 20 parts per
> billion and 200 parts per billion. TRACE is 2000 parts per billion!
>
> From Gary Goldman
> Vaccines with trace amounts of Thimerosal, by definition, contain less
> than 1 microgram of mercury (Hg) per dose (
> http://www.fda.gov/cber/vaccine/thimerosal.htm).
>
> For example, consider that the reduced-Thimerosal flu vaccine with 0.0002%
> mercury is equivalent to 1 microgram [µg] of Hg per 0.5 mL, or 2 µg of
> Hg per mL, which is the same as 2000 µg per liter; or 2000 parts per
> billion [ppb][2].
>
> 0.5 parts per billion (ppb) mercury has been shown to kill human
> neuroblastoma cells (Parran et al., Toxicol Sci 2005; 86:132-40).
> 2 ppb mercury is the U.S. EPA limit for drinking water (
> http://www.epa.gov/safewater/contaminants/index.html#mcls).
> 20 ppb mercury destroys neurite membrane structures (Leong et al.,
> Neuroreport 2001:12733-7).
> 200 ppb mercury is the level in liquid that the EPA classifies as
> hazardous waste
> 2000 ppb - TRACE is 2000 parts per b
>
> *********
> From HAPI
>
> Vaccines Are Not Mercury Free
>
> PRESS RELEASE - FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
> August 12, 2004
> Health Advocacy in the Public Interest (HAPI) Health Advocacy in the
> Public Interest
> Contact: Dawn Winkler 970-641-7413
>
> Vaccines Are Not Mercury Free
>
> After much public controversy surrounding the mercury content of childhood
> vaccinations, Health Advocacy in the Public Interest (HAPI) raised $500 to
> have four vaccines tested for heavy metal content. The vials were sent to
> Doctor's Data, an independent lab which specializes in heavy metal
> testing.
>
> Many manufacturers voluntarily began producing supposed "mercury free"
> vaccines in 1999. Some product inserts currently claim that a "trace"
> amount of mercury still exists in the final product but that the amount
> has been greatly reduced. Others claim to be producing completely mercury
> free products.
>
> During an investigation into the mercury issue, HAPI learned that
> Thimerosal, a 50% mercury compound, is still being used to produce most
> vaccines and that the manufacturers are simply "filtering it out" of the
> final product. However, according to Boyd Haley, PhD, Chemistry
> Department Chair, University of Kentucky, mercury binds to the antigenic
> protein in the vaccine and cannot be completely, 100% filtered out.

Removing almost all mercury from vaccines has not influenced the incidence
of autism, but some antivax propagandists cannot admit they were wrong about
that. As has been pointed out here before, this is a ridiculously small
mercury exposure. Vaccines and many other medical products containing
much more thiomerosal have STILL never been shown to have any adverse
effects of humans.

A meal of fish would contain more. The above complains about vaccines
containing 2000 parts per billion. What about fish, such as tuna, that
can contain over 1000 parts per billion (see
http://www.fda.gov/fdac/reprints/mercury.html ) as highly toxic methyl
mercury, and are consumed in much larger volumes and much more frequently?

PM

From: D. C. Sessions on 8 Jun 2008 18:38
In message <VeKdnYUs-PQCzdHVnZ2dnUVZ_vKdnZ2d(a)posted.internode>, Peter Moran wrote:

> What about fish, such as tuna, that
> can contain over 1000 parts per billion (see
> http://www.fda.gov/fdac/reprints/mercury.html ) as highly toxic methyl
> mercury, �and are consumed in much larger volumes and much more frequently?

I believe that the top antivax theologians have been working
hard on this problem and have come up with some answers.

First, they have deduced from the vastly greater toxicity
of vaccines relative to fish that ethyl mercury is much
more toxic than methyl mercury.

Second is the ability of the human nervous system (alone
in the animal kingdom) to selectively take up ethyl mercury
directly to the brain so that all of it goes there instead
of to other tissues.

Third is the human brain's ability to sequester ethyl
mercury where only chelation therapy and Lupron can
tease it out.

Research on these topics continues, and when enough monkeys
have been killed there are sure to be some which can be
used to prove other important claims.

--
| "Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against |
| unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct |
| before reason can act on them" -- Thomas Jefferson |
+-------- D. C. Sessions <dcs(a)lumbercartel.com> ---------+
From: Jan Drew on 8 Jun 2008 20:27
"JOHN" <john(a)nospam.com> wrote in message
news:2Mydnc2cc4WJNNbVnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d(a)bt.com...
> Remember when it says "trace" it equals 2000 parts per billion - see below
> for dangers of 0.5 parts per billion, 2 parts per billion, 20 parts per
> billion and 200 parts per billion. TRACE is 2000 parts per billion!
>
> From Gary Goldman
> Vaccines with trace amounts of Thimerosal, by definition, contain less
> than
> 1 microgram of mercury (Hg) per dose (
> http://www.fda.gov/cber/vaccine/thimerosal.htm).
>
> For example, consider that the reduced-Thimerosal flu vaccine with 0.0002%
> mercury is equivalent to 1 microgram [µg] of Hg per 0.5 mL, or 2 µg of
> Hg
> per mL, which is the same as 2000 µg per liter; or 2000 parts per billion
> [ppb][2].
>
> 0.5 parts per billion (ppb) mercury has been shown to kill human
> neuroblastoma cells (Parran et al., Toxicol Sci 2005; 86:132-40).
> 2 ppb mercury is the U.S. EPA limit for drinking water (
> http://www.epa.gov/safewater/contaminants/index.html#mcls).
> 20 ppb mercury destroys neurite membrane structures (Leong et al.,
> Neuroreport 2001:12733-7).
> 200 ppb mercury is the level in liquid that the EPA classifies as
> hazardous waste
> 2000 ppb - TRACE is 2000 parts per b
>
> *********
> From HAPI
>
> Vaccines Are Not Mercury Free
>
> PRESS RELEASE - FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
> August 12, 2004
> Health Advocacy in the Public Interest (HAPI) Health Advocacy in the
> Public
> Interest
> Contact: Dawn Winkler 970-641-7413
>
> Vaccines Are Not Mercury Free
>
> After much public controversy surrounding the mercury content of childhood
> vaccinations, Health Advocacy in the Public Interest (HAPI) raised $500 to
> have four vaccines tested for heavy metal content. The vials were sent to
> Doctor's Data, an independent lab which specializes in heavy metal
> testing.
>
> Many manufacturers voluntarily began producing supposed "mercury free"
> vaccines in 1999. Some product inserts currently claim that a "trace"
> amount of mercury still exists in the final product but that the amount
> has
> been greatly reduced. Others claim to be producing completely mercury free
> products.
>
> During an investigation into the mercury issue, HAPI learned that
> Thimerosal, a 50% mercury compound, is still being used to produce most
> vaccines and that the manufacturers are simply "filtering it out" of the
> final product. However, according to Boyd Haley, PhD, Chemistry
> Department
> Chair, University of Kentucky, mercury binds to the antigenic protein in
> the
> vaccine and cannot be completely, 100% filtered out.
>
> All four vaccine vials tested contained mercury despite manufacturer
> claims
> that two of the vials were completely mercury free. All four vials also
> contained aluminum, one nine times more than the other three, which
> tremendously enhances the toxicity of mercury causing neuronal death in
> the
> brain.
>
> The mercury content of routine childhood vaccinations has been linked to
> the
> current autism epidemic as well as numerous other neurological disorders
> affecting children today. Currently, one in six children are affected in
> some way and one in 250 children are diagnosed as autistic compared to one
> in 10,000 prior to mercury containing vaccines.
>
> It is the position of Dr. Haley as well as HAPI that if mercury can be
> detected in any vaccine using standard instrumentation, the content should
> be disclosed in the product insert and manufacturers should not be allowed
> to call the product "mercury free".
>
> Executive Director of HAPI, Dawn Winkler, met with FDA officials in Silver
> Spring, Maryland on July 27, 2004 to discuss blatant mislabeling and
> misrepresentation of ingredients in vaccinations which are licensed by the
> FDA. Clearly, more testing is needed. The FDA has the ability and
> authority to take on the necessary testing, however, at present, this task
> sadly appears to be up to the public.
>
> HAPI will be attempting to raise more funds to test more vaccines in an
> effort to pressure the FDA to crack down on manufacturers to label their
> products correctly. To help with this effort call 970-641-7413 or email
> noshots(a)earthlink.net. (noshots(at)earthlink.net)
>
>
>
> More..........
>
>
>
> http://www.vaccinesafety.edu/thi-table.htm
>
> http://www.fda.gov/cber/vaccine/thimerosal.htm
>
> There is also the issue of not shaking the vial to distribute the
> contents,
> which could mean an unfortunate child could get much more mercury than
> intended
>
> http://www.hapihealth.com/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1
>
> And, more importantly in my opinion, vaccine injury is not simply about
> the Thimerosal.
>


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