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From: The Artist presently known as π on 30 Jun 2008 19:59
On Jun 30, 7:51 pm, Rupert <rupertmccal...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jun 30, 9:05 pm, AMechanicalL...(a)gmail.com wrote:

> And of course we do regularly walk into restaurants and actually
> confiscate people's food and scream "Stop eating that rotting corpse,
> you murderer!"
>

that's funny because I frequent funeral parlors, running up to the
corpse screaming "I killed it, it's mine, I get to eat it"...





From: Rupert on 1 Jul 2008 13:54
These quotations from David Harrison are certainly very interesting.
Engaging in an activity which is like to cause injury or death to
humans, or for that matter any sentient being, is not an ethically
justifiable way to behave and it's a very poor strategy for doing
something about animal suffering, which one would hope is the ultimate
goal. I will not donate money to PETA because I do not wish my money
to end up in the hands of the Earth Liberation Front and many of us in
the animal protection movement frequently have cause to feel annoyed
with PETA as one of the more publicly visible organisations in the
animal protection movement who identify themselves as "animal rights".
Your typical animal rights activist doesn't really fit the image you
would normally have of a terrorist.

The following quotation from Tom Regan's "Empty Cages: Facing the
Challenge of Animal Rights" might be of some interest:

Having adopted a proactive strategy, one pillar of which is the
depiction of ARAs as lawless terrorists, the major animal user
industries face a daunting challenge. For their strategy to work,
there has to be illegal, terroristic activity attributed to ARAs. And
not just a little. What is needed is a lot. It di dnot take long
before anti-ARA forces decided that they would need to do a little
freelance terrorist work of their own.

Consider this possible scenario. Why not hire someone to infiltrate
the animal rights movement, as an agent provocateur, with one main
purpose: to find a malleable person in the movement who could be
"encouraged" (shall we say) to try to do something that would really
discredit ARAs. Like, maybe this person could be "encouraged" to try
to murder someone. And not just anyone. No, the "someone" should be a
pillar of the community, someone who (what an odd coincidence) just
happened to be a leader in a major animal user industry, someone who
just happened to have been famously outspoken in his criticisms of
ARAs. An attempt on his life would be perfect. It would show the
public that ARAs really are extremists who will stop at nothing to
further their ends. It is not hard to visualize the headline: "Animal
Rights Terrorist Attempts to Murder Pillar of Community".

A few problems would have to be solved. It takes time to find the
right person for the job. It takes money to pay all the players. Who
is going to come up with the necessary cash? Well, suppose the pillar
himself could pay for the attempt on his life. Suppose the pillar
himself (such is his influence) could arrange to have the local police
on hand to arrest the would-be murderer. "Nah", you might say, "This
is too fanciful, too conspiratorial. I don't think anyone in a major
animal user industry would ever do anything like this." Think again.

Leon Hirsch, past president of the Norwalk, Connecticut-based U. S.
Surgical Corporation, played the role of the pillar of the community.
Hirsch's former company manufactures staples used in place of ordinary
sutures in many operations. During Hirsch's tenure, physicians
received training by practicing on live dogs, who were vivisected,
then killed. ARAs (led by Friends of Animals, also locate in Norwalk)
mounted an in-your-face campaign against Hirsch and his company back
in the late 1980s. His ingenious way of getting even was to put up the
necessary money to arrange for an ARA to try to murder him.

On November 11, 1989, a man on the payroll of a firm Hirsch had hired
drove a young woman named Fran Trutt, a self-professed ARA, along with
her two recently purchased pipe bombs, from New York City to Norwalk.
When she placed the bombs adjacent to Hirsch's parking space, Hirsch's
friends in the Norwalk police department just happened to be on hand
to arrest her.

The resulting story (not the bombs, which never exploded) was the real
bombshell. There it was: "Animal Rights Terrorist Attempts to Murder
Pillar of Community". As John C. Stauber and Sheldom Rampton observe,
"Normally, of course, company presidents do not arrange their own
murder, but Hirsch was neither crazy nor suicidal. He was trying to
engineer an embarrassing scandal that would discredit the animal
rights movement."

Hirsch would have succeeded, too, except for one thing: the ensuing
trial brought ot light extensive tape transcripts that implicated
everyone, from Hirsch on down, who had hatched the plot to discredit
ARAs. Friends of Animals sued Hirsch, who sold U. S. Surgical in 1998,
but their suit was unsuccessful, and he never faced any criminal
charges. Perhaps not surprisingly, Fran Trutt was the only person to
serve time (a year in prison, followed by a year on probation). She
seems to have left the movement.
From: SirStudlySpanksalot on 1 Jul 2008 20:56
The only psychopath posting in this thread is you.

It is obvious from your post that you are a clear threat to others.

If someone you know is reading this, they should contact the
authorities and get you placed on an involuntary 72-hour hold ASAP.

They should also contact the police and have where you live and work
searched for weapons.

You sound like one of those Columbine killer teenagers.
From: ArchdeaconMalli on 1 Jul 2008 22:01
On Jul 1, 8:56 pm, SirStudlySpanksa...(a)gmail.com wrote:
> The only psychopath posting in this thread is you.
>
> It is obvious from your post that you are a clear threat to others.
>
> If someone you know is reading this, they should contact the
> authorities and get you placed on an involuntary 72-hour hold ASAP.
>
> They should also contact the police and have where you live and work
> searched for weapons.
>
> You sound like one of those Columbine killer teenagers.

I agree! That "animal rights" freak that posted all those violent
threats really should be investigated under the USA Patriot Act. That
person is nothing more than a terrorist.
From: SirStudlySpanksalot on 1 Jul 2008 23:49
On Jul 1, 10:01 pm, ArchdeaconMa...(a)gmail.com wrote:
> On Jul 1, 8:56 pm, SirStudlySpanksa...(a)gmail.com wrote:
>
> > The only psychopath posting in this thread is you.
>
> > It is obvious from your post that you are a clear threat to others.
>
> > If someone you know is reading this, they should contact the
> > authorities and get you placed on an involuntary 72-hour hold ASAP.
>
> > They should also contact the police and have where you live and work
> > searched for weapons.
>
> > You sound like one of those Columbine killer teenagers.
>
> I agree! That "animal rights" freak that posted all those violent
> threats really should be investigated under the USA Patriot Act. That
> person is nothing more than a terrorist.

You are a psychopath and a pathological liar.

And your threats of violence have not gone unnoticed. Thay ARE against
Google's TOS, are they not?
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