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From: info at psychictrauma.org on 21 Jun 2007 23:15
5% PTSD support and 95% of being diagnosed by Ouya, and people bashing Ouya
for her internet diagnosises. I am not without blame because when I said
that, "some problems have no solutions" (suggesting my PTSD may not have
one), and Ouya said "Every problem has solutions", but could not tell me
what that solution was, my eyes glassed over and I started to drool.

I came here to find someone with similar symptomology and haven't found
anyone, although I have had a couple of enjoyable exchanges with a couple of
members.

I am serious about finding a permanent solution to my PTSD, have found a
physician willing to do PET scans on me so I can further my own research
into a possible cure, and am in discussions with a knowledgeable person on
the possibility of applying for private and public grants to fund research.
I invited serious people to visit my website at www.psychictrauma.org and
correspond with me through it and humbly ask anyone with any contacts they
might have, who might be willing to help start a non- profit (Pro Bono), to
send them my way. Also, I am always looking for articles to post and
contributor, as the site is in a rudimentary stage.

I have spent the last week trying to figure out how people so devastated by
trauma and PTSD, could have the time or inclination to banter back and forth
with a woman who says she has PTSD, but is mentally stable, yet comes back
to the group day after day to a barage of constant abuse and insults, and
little else. She claims that she has found a couple of good people here, but
that does not explain why she still stays for all the abuse, as she could
easily communicate with those couple of people off line. There is an element
of masocism in that and that is an instability, and this person, through her
33 posts, many of which are completely off topic, has steered the group
(with the help of those whom constantly engage her) in a direction that has
made it nearly useless IMO. I realize that some of the threads and posts are
hard to ignore, but this activity is now almost the only activity on the
group.

Most here seem to be adequately happy with the therapy they are getting, and
are happy to continue on that path. That is totally different than my
experiences and tells me, that in fact, I may not be in the right place.
With 32 years of experience with over 50 doctors, I wish to share some of
the knowledge I have gained (take it or leave it). If you are getting
better, great. If you are getting by, day to day, on the promises from docs
that you will get better (and have been in therapy for some time) be
careful, you may wake up 30 years from now kicking yourself for not being
more aggressive about getting results. There are people here diagnosed with
PTSD that have, by their own accounts, have not suffered any life
threatening or perceived life threatening event. While I am not going to
question their diagnosis, I will say that if you have suffered such events,
what has helped them will more than likely not help you. People are overly
sensative when I bring it up, but it makes it no less true: There are
varying degrees of traumatization and evidence shows that the therapies that
help with the people traumatized to lesser degrees, do not help the most
severe cases.

There are also lots of people who have bought into the idea that the
condition can never be gotten rid of completely: I am simply not willing to
accept that, as my symptoms remove all quality of life and with so much left
to try, I will not accept that notion until everything is tried.

I am out of here.

Good luck to all !



From: Lin on 22 Jun 2007 01:52
info at psychictrauma.org wrote:

> 5% PTSD support and 95% of being diagnosed by Ouya, and people bashing Ouya
> for her internet diagnosises. I am not without blame because when I said
> that, "some problems have no solutions" (suggesting my PTSD may not have
> one), and Ouya said "Every problem has solutions", but could not tell me
> what that solution was, my eyes glassed over and I started to drool.

Yeah. She has that affect on a lot of people. Why do you think there
is a posse who's mission is to drive her out? I guess we could put a
little religious spin on it to make her happy ... think of it as St.
Patrick driving the snakes out of Ireland. St. Patrick is a collective
of usenet citizens on a mission, and she is one single, venomous
snake. (I rather like this analogy).

> There are also lots of people who have bought into the idea that the
> condition can never be gotten rid of completely: I am simply not willing to
> accept that, as my symptoms remove all quality of life and with so much left
> to try, I will not accept that notion until everything is tried.
>
> I am out of here.
>
> Good luck to all !

I wish you well. If you find your answers, I hope you come back and
let everyone know!

--Lin

From: NobodySpecial on 22 Jun 2007 09:11
I'm sure theres many like me that do share many of your experiences
(minus the fairly obviously unique one of being slipped LSD in a
drink), and like me, prefer to stay on the sidelines. Call it
avoidance, or maybe a reluctance for you to pick apart whether or not
you feel our PTSD symptoms qualify to be on your "level". (I have
never considered surgery to fix any issues I have, prefering to deal
and live life as best as possible and not dwell on it.) The
argumentative/insulting/frustrated nature of most of your comments
might be responsible for your limited response (not that I dont
understand the frustrations, believe me). And yes, I also have had
PTSD for over 20 years, and I'm under 30...I understand what you mean
by lost childhood. I also was mis-diagnosed at first (manic
depressive and sociopathic). Like you, none of the EFT/counseling/
anything else I tried, has worked that well, or that long. I still
get extremely anxious around people I dont know, it's still a struggle
on some days to get into work everyday, knowing that some days, I just
dont want to see or interact with anyone. I still get flashbacks, I
still cant sleep well, for any extended period of time, I'm still
hypervigilant. You're not alone in that, but next group you enter,
I'd suggest cutting the edge off your words and I'm sure you'll pull
some people out of the woodwork.

Keep your head up, and good luck.


On Jun 21, 10:15 pm, "info at psychictrauma.org"
<i...(a)psychictrauma.org> wrote:
> 5% PTSD support and 95% of being diagnosed by Ouya, and people bashing Ouya
> for her internet diagnosises. I am not without blame because when I said
> that, "some problems have no solutions" (suggesting my PTSD may not have
> one), and Ouya said "Every problem has solutions", but could not tell me
> what that solution was, my eyes glassed over and I started to drool.
>
> I came here to find someone with similar symptomology and haven't found
> anyone, although I have had a couple of enjoyable exchanges with a couple of
> members.
>
> I am serious about finding a permanent solution to my PTSD, have found a
> physician willing to do PET scans on me so I can further my own research
> into a possible cure, and am in discussions with a knowledgeable person on
> the possibility of applying for private and public grants to fund research.
> I invited serious people to visit my website atwww.psychictrauma.organd
> correspond with me through it and humbly ask anyone with any contacts they
> might have, who might be willing to help start a non- profit (Pro Bono), to
> send them my way. Also, I am always looking for articles to post and
> contributor, as the site is in a rudimentary stage.
>
> I have spent the last week trying to figure out how people so devastated by
> trauma and PTSD, could have the time or inclination to banter back and forth
> with a woman who says she has PTSD, but is mentally stable, yet comes back
> to the group day after day to a barage of constant abuse and insults, and
> little else. She claims that she has found a couple of good people here, but
> that does not explain why she still stays for all the abuse, as she could
> easily communicate with those couple of people off line. There is an element
> of masocism in that and that is an instability, and this person, through her
> 33 posts, many of which are completely off topic, has steered the group
> (with the help of those whom constantly engage her) in a direction that has
> made it nearly useless IMO. I realize that some of the threads and posts are
> hard to ignore, but this activity is now almost the only activity on the
> group.
>
> Most here seem to be adequately happy with the therapy they are getting, and
> are happy to continue on that path. That is totally different than my
> experiences and tells me, that in fact, I may not be in the right place.
> With 32 years of experience with over 50 doctors, I wish to share some of
> the knowledge I have gained (take it or leave it). If you are getting
> better, great. If you are getting by, day to day, on the promises from docs
> that you will get better (and have been in therapy for some time) be
> careful, you may wake up 30 years from now kicking yourself for not being
> more aggressive about getting results. There are people here diagnosed with
> PTSD that have, by their own accounts, have not suffered any life
> threatening or perceived life threatening event. While I am not going to
> question their diagnosis, I will say that if you have suffered such events,
> what has helped them will more than likely not help you. People are overly
> sensative when I bring it up, but it makes it no less true: There are
> varying degrees of traumatization and evidence shows that the therapies that
> help with the people traumatized to lesser degrees, do not help the most
> severe cases.
>
> There are also lots of people who have bought into the idea that the
> condition can never be gotten rid of completely: I am simply not willing to
> accept that, as my symptoms remove all quality of life and with so much left
> to try, I will not accept that notion until everything is tried.
>
> I am out of here.
>
> Good luck to all !


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