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From: Mark K. Bilbo on 20 Sep 2008 15:13 john w <john w<no>@yahoo wrote: > x-no-archive: yes > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote: >> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cd3849dbc172b6d0? >> >> <>< >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5ed925253232ff23? > > http://chung.is.a.kook/somebody/get.a.net > Huh, no post. Weird... -- Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423 EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion ------------------------------------------------------------ "You know, I'd get it if people were just looking for a way to fill the holes. But they want the holes. They wanna live in the holes. And they go nuts when someone else pours dirt in their holes. "Climb out of your holes people!" - Dr. House, on faith
From: Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD on 20 Sep 2008 15:34 http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/6ed729ef39cda6e3? <>< http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/5ed925253232ff23?
From: Don Kirkman on 20 Sep 2008 17:35 It seems to me I heard somewhere that john w <john w<no>@yahoo<no>.com> wrote in article <ig9ad4p42ob1bko7966kpt578dab9ih1dr(a)4ax.com>: >x-no-archive: yes >On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 18:51:57 -0500, Free Lunch <lunch(a)nofreelunch.us> >wrote: > � 2008 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no portion of this post >may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author. >>On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 16:47:27 -0700, john w <john w<no>@yahoo<no>.com> >>wrote in alt.atheism: >>> As I've said in the past, we're each due our own beliefs. I have >>>mine. >>> I know what I believe, and I know why. >>> And in a rational discussion-- which this isn't-- I can explain >>>myself clearly and coherently. But-- why bother in HERE? >>John, it is impossible to make any rational claims for religion because >>there is absolutely nothing that backs up any religious doctrines. > That's a total pile. > And-- if there is any material evidence for Christianity-- by ALL >means, don't bother YOU with it! > You happen to be addressing someone (me) who studied apologetics at >the grad school (seminary) level. Well la-di-da! Last time I looked apologetics was only one discipline within a seminary curriculum. Apologetics [from "apologia", Greek for "defense"] refers to defending a position. The big guns in most seminary curricula are more proactive disciplines like studying the texts (preferably in their original languages), the cultural and historical context in which they were formed, and the developmental history of and critical analysis of the belief system (commonly called "theology", and of course homiletics [learnin' ta preach]. At one level apologetics can almost be done by rote learning, though of course you probably didn't study at that level. > So you really can't tell me anything I don't know, and I'm equally >sure that there are a lot of things I could tell you that you simply >don't wish to hear. That somehow does come off as just a wee bit arrogant, but of course I've been there myself--that's how I recognize is. > Last I heard, that's called a "Mexican Standoff." PC? > Your mind is closed, and I know too much to listen >to your chatter. I think I heard a door closing somewhere. [For the record, I'll see your apologetics and raise you some of the other disciplines. :-)] -- Don Kirkman donsno2(a)charter.net
From: Don Kirkman on 21 Sep 2008 02:43 It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in article <9e64621b-6538-4bf9-956d-ebc41f89ed47(a)79g2000hsk.googlegroups.com>: >Bottom line concerning how meaningful this is when you are unable to >publicly say that "Jesus is LORD:" You have not one iota of evidence whether I am or am not able to publicly say that or anything else. I'm certainly not going to do it simply because you have some delusions about what God expects of a person. -- Don Kirkman donsno2(a)charter.net
From: Robibnikoff on 22 Sep 2008 04:38
"john w @yahoo .com>" <john w<nono> screeched: > On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 15:50:32 -0700 (PDT), "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" >>It remains my personal choice to not be religious. >> >>"Name-calling is lying." -- Holy Spirit > > You then just called Jesus a liar! Jesus called the Pharisees a > number of things; not one of them was nice. Two mentally-ill self-righteous idiots battling it out on Usenet. Who's bringing the popcorn? -- Robyn Resident Witchypoo BAAWA Knight! #1557 If you can't be a good example.... You'll just have to be a horrible warning. |