From: JOHN on

"Peter Bowditch" <myfirstname(a)ratbags.com> wrote in message
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>>
>>who cares what he thinks, MMR obviously caused his sons MMR
>
> You care enough about what he thinks to demand that I show you where
> he says it. If you think his opinion is irrelevant, perhaps you should
> contact whoever owns whale.to and get Gallup's article removed.
>

LOL. You used his "alleged" comment about autism not being caused by
mercury but only by MMR, which I asked you to produce,

to make out that is waht we all think

so you don't produce that, only his comment about MMR

time waster



From: JohnDoe on
JOHN wrote:
> "Peter Bowditch" <myfirstname(a)ratbags.com> wrote in message
> news:r5u4s211s213b55antutlft6s1ee5t56nr(a)4ax.com...
>
>
>>>who cares what he thinks, MMR obviously caused his sons MMR
>>
>>You care enough about what he thinks to demand that I show you where
>>he says it. If you think his opinion is irrelevant, perhaps you should
>>contact whoever owns whale.to and get Gallup's article removed.
>>
>
>
> LOL. You used his "alleged" comment about autism not being caused by
> mercury but only by MMR, which I asked you to produce,
>
> to make out that is waht we all think
>
> so you don't produce that, only his comment about MMR
>
> time waster

Having trouble with the meaning of the word 'only'? If Gallup claims
that the *only* possible cause of autism is MMR, then he claims, albeit
implicitely, that mercury (read: thimerosal, which is not mercury) does
not cause autism. Like Peter Bowditch said, that is what 'only' means.
From: Peter Bowditch on
"JOHN" <john(a)btinternet.com> wrote:

>
>"Peter Bowditch" <myfirstname(a)ratbags.com> wrote in message
>news:r5u4s211s213b55antutlft6s1ee5t56nr(a)4ax.com...
>
>>>
>>>who cares what he thinks, MMR obviously caused his sons MMR
>>
>> You care enough about what he thinks to demand that I show you where
>> he says it. If you think his opinion is irrelevant, perhaps you should
>> contact whoever owns whale.to and get Gallup's article removed.
>>
>
>LOL. You used his "alleged" comment about autism not being caused by
>mercury but only by MMR, which I asked you to produce,
>
> to make out that is waht we all think
>
>so you don't produce that, only his comment about MMR
>
>time waster
>
>

Read my lips. I never said that he said that his son's autism wasn't
caused by mercury, I said that he said that his son's autism could
only have been caused by MMR. If it could only have been caused by MMR
then it could not have been caused by mercury. That is a simple
logical position and requires no mention of any other possible cause.
One possible cause means one possible cause.

Child waster.
--
Peter Bowditch aa #2243
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From: JOHN on

"Peter Bowditch" <myfirstname(a)ratbags.com> wrote in message
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>
> Read my lips. I never said that he said that his son's autism wasn't
> caused by mercury, I said that he said that his son's autism could
> only have been caused by MMR. If it could only have been caused by MMR
> then it could not have been caused by mercury. That is a simple
> logical position and requires no mention of any other possible cause.
> One possible cause means one possible cause.

You say that but lets see his actual words to that effect

and is he your straw man?

>
> Child waster.
> --

Yes, you support that

"The computer records from the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program,
obtained by Gannett News Service using the Freedom of Information Act as
part of a four-month study of federal immunization policy, reveal: Of 253
infant death cases awarded more than $61 million by the U.S. Court of
Federal Claims in the 1990s under the compensation program, 224, or 86
percent, were attributed to vaccination with DTP, the diphtheria, tetanus
and pertussis (whooping cough) shot. In these cases, mortality was
originally attributed to SIDS in 90, or 40 percent, of them. Of 771
total claims filed by parents from 1990 through mid-1998, 660, or 86
percent, contained assertions that DTP was the cause of death. And 43
percent were classified by medical authorities at time of death as SIDS
cases."--NVIC http://www.909shot.com


From: 8'FED on
JohnDoe wrote:
> JOHN wrote:
> > "Peter Bowditch" wrote:
>
> >>>who cares what he thinks, MMR obviously caused his sons MMR
>
> >>You care enough about what he thinks to demand that I show you where
> >>he says it. If you think his opinion is irrelevant, perhaps you should
> >>contact whoever owns whale.to and get Gallup's article removed.
>
> > LOL. You used his "alleged" comment about autism not being caused by
> > mercury but only by MMR, which I asked you to produce,
>
> > to make out that is waht we all think
> > so you don't produce that, only his comment about MMR
> > time waster
>
> Having trouble with the meaning of the word 'only'? If Gallup claims
> that the *only* possible cause of autism is MMR, then he claims, albeit
> implicitely, that mercury (read: thimerosal, which is not mercury) does
> not cause autism. Like Peter Bowditch said, that is what 'only' means.

Yeah, but in the quotation under discussion, the word "ON" has three
occurences, the word "OUR" has two occurences, but the word
"ONLY" (which lies between the two alphabetically) has no occurences
whatsoever.

I don't like to sound as though I'm defending John in any way (let me
be explicit: neither mercury nor MMR cause or influence the onset of
autism), but in this case I must confess that I don't follow the sense
of Peter's argument.

If the point of contention were over whether I have said: "Being hit
on the head with a plank of wood is the only possible cause for any
headache; nobody ever suffers a headache due to being hit on the head
with an iron bar", then it would not be pertinent to quote me as
saying: "I have established to my satisfaction that my headache was
caused by being hit on the head with a plank of wood".

For the same reason, I don't see the pertinence of the quotation Peter
chose to share.

Adrian.

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