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From: supporter on 1 Aug 2008 04:03 An Investigation From British Journal Of psychiatry witch deal with the assessment of Depression Treatment To Download The full Investigation : http://no4depression.blogspot.com/2008/07/how-to-assess-effictiveness-of.html Best Regards
From: humble.life on 1 Aug 2008 13:53 supporter wrote: > An Investigation From British Journal Of psychiatry > witch deal with the assessment of Depression Treatment > To Download The full Investigation : > > http://no4depression.blogspot.com/2008/07/how-to-assess-effictiveness-of.html > > Best Regards > i just downloaded it. i notice the governments mental health experts seem to think all of those remedies are highly successful. i notice that the report is suspicious of the effect of CBT and counseling. i'm in two minds. i think the "how to not mention dark things to people to make them respond to you differently" thing works, but i don't think it goes beyond that. still, as long as the middle classes feel their environment is purely their own there's no problem is there?
From: CJ Dunnaway on 1 Aug 2008 14:31 "supporter" <abo_elyosr1986(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:2fd4b7c9-ad78-4ca3-b23c-fd1ff414f00b(a)f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... > > An Investigation From British Journal Of psychiatry > witch deal with the assessment of Depression Treatment > To Download The full Investigation : > > http://no4depression.blogspot.com/2008/07/how-to-assess-effictiveness-of.html > > Best Regards It all falls back to the nature vs. nurture argument, and it seems to be a variable mix of the two. I suspect the people more affected by their environment (nurturing) will respond better to counseling, while people affected more by brain chemistry (nature) will respond better to drug therapy. Still others will benefit most by a combination of the two therapies. Until we learn more, trial and error seems to be the best way to make that determination. CJ
From: humble.life on 1 Aug 2008 14:36 CJ Dunnaway wrote: > "supporter" <abo_elyosr1986(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:2fd4b7c9-ad78-4ca3-b23c-fd1ff414f00b(a)f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... >> >> An Investigation From British Journal Of psychiatry >> witch deal with the assessment of Depression Treatment >> To Download The full Investigation : >> >> http://no4depression.blogspot.com/2008/07/how-to-assess-effictiveness-of.html >> >> >> Best Regards > > It all falls back to the nature vs. nurture argument, and it seems to be > a variable mix of the two. I suspect the people more affected by their > environment (nurturing) will respond better to counseling, while people > affected more by brain chemistry (nature) will respond better to drug > therapy. Still others will benefit most by a combination of the two > therapies. Until we learn more, trial and error seems to be the best way > to make that determination. > > CJ > i agree with this, but some policies are being based on the current research as if they purport a concrete and everlasting fact...
From: firemonkey on 1 Aug 2008 15:23
CJ Dunnaway wrote: > "supporter" <abo_elyosr1986(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:2fd4b7c9-ad78-4ca3-b23c-fd1ff414f00b(a)f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... >> >> An Investigation From British Journal Of psychiatry >> witch deal with the assessment of Depression Treatment >> To Download The full Investigation : >> >> http://no4depression.blogspot.com/2008/07/how-to-assess-effictiveness-of.html >> >> >> Best Regards > > It all falls back to the nature vs. nurture argument, and it seems to be > a variable mix of the two. I suspect the people more affected by their > environment (nurturing) will respond better to counseling, while people > affected more by brain chemistry (nature) will respond better to drug > therapy. Still others will benefit most by a combination of the two > therapies. Until we learn more, trial and error seems to be the best way > to make that determination. > > CJ > Seems to there are three groups (1) Endogenous (2) Non endogenous and (3) A mixed group prone to varying degrees of both 1 and 2. http://www.inpsychiatry.com/news/article.aspx?id=76691 MedWire News: Stress-sensitive periods during childhood development increase the risk for psychiatric diagnoses and symptom severity, with the stress load having a 'dose' effect in certain diagnoses, say German researchers. Previous studies have revealed that adverse or traumatic events during childhood have an impact on adult psychopathology, with an increased childhood stress load associated with a range of psychiatric disorders. However, it is not clear whether this relationship is present regardless of the specific disorder. The team, led by Brigitte Rockstroh from the University of Konstanz, studied 39 patients with major depressive disorder, 32 with schizophrenia, 15 with drug abuse, and 10 with personality disorder, along with 31 healthy controls. The participants were administered, among others, the Early Trauma Inventory, the Brief Psychiatric Rating Scale (BPRS), the Beck Depression Inventory (BDI), and the General Assessment of Functioning Scale. The average age of the patients was 36.2 years, compared with 40.3 years for controls, while the average BDI scores were 17.9 and 3.3, respectively. The average BPRS score among patients was 50.5. Patients had significantly higher scores than controls for early life stress events, pre-pubertal stress events, overall traumatic experiences, and prenatal stress, at group point differences of 14.84, 24.62, 19.14, and 11.57, respectively. Looking at the stress domains of trauma, emotional neglect, physical punishment, and sexual abuse, the team found that patients reported significantly more emotional neglect, violence in families during childhood and adolescence, and separation from their biologic mother for at least 3 months before puberty than controls. Patients with personality disorders has the highest childhood and pre-pubertal stress loads on all measures, while those with major depressive disorder had significantly higher pre-pubertal stress than patients with schizophrenia or drug abuse. A high stress load was associated with major depressive disorder and personality disorder, while patients with schizophrenia and drug abuse tended to have a lower stress load. In addition, patients with high stress loads had significantly more pronounced affective symptoms, while the severity of post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) was linked to stress load in all life periods. PTSD diagnosis was predicted in linear regression models by emotional neglect before 6 years of age, sexual abuse between puberty and 18 years of age, and the number of traumatic events. The team concludes in the journal BMC Psychiatry: "Present results support the hypothesis of stress-sensitive periods during development and show that a 'dose'-effect... is not restricted to traumatic experiences and PTSD" |