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From: Rich on 15 Apr 2007 04:26 I scored 38.40 for herpes simplex type I on a blodd antobody teat in January. I tried called the test lab to find out the signifcance of such a high abnormal antibody count and they refused to offer any help or information, saying ask your doctor. Well I have scoured online resources and can not find anything that correlates blood antibody levels to potential or expected system damage and and affect. It must be a well kept secret to keep the malpractice lawyers away from suing the previous so called doctors that either refused to diagnose you in the past or were told not to diagnose you. I have extreme damage from herpes, if fact I am surprised I am still living. I could elaborate on the extent of the damage but I wont right now. Who has any inforamtion on the true meaning of blood antibody level and herpes system infection? This virus does not just stay on the mouth or genitals it spreads! I'm 53 now and had herpes mouth scores as a kid. I live in a very very dangerous State where misdiagnosed patients remain misdiagnosed even when the truth is revealed. Lets hear some facts about the herpes antibody scale, how high can it possibly go and what is the typical road map of infection as the antibody count increases? There must be many many people walking around with herpes damage that have been sold a bill of goods by medical doctors as to what their medical problems are. R.
From: M2slo2cht on 15 Apr 2007 09:11 Rich writes: >called the test lab to find out the signifcance of >such a high abnormal antibody count and they refused to offer any help >or information, saying ask your doctor. Did you "ask your doctor"? >can not find anything that correlates blood antibody >levels to potential or expected system damage and and affect. It must >be a well kept secret I don't recall ever seeing a study on it. My guess (and I'm not a doctor) would be the correlation would vary from patient to patient. depending on how active the individual's immune system is. In other words, one patient might pump out more antibodies than another even though they are similarly infected. Generally, an antibody test is used to diagnose an infection. Over a certain level is a yes, under is a no. It's a have it or you don't sort of thing. >I have extreme damage from >herpes, if fact I am surprised I am still living. I'm glad you're alive and sorry to hear of your troubles. Herpes infections are extremely common but serious problems are not. >Who has any inforamtion >on the true meaning of blood antibody level and herpes system >infection? Other than a positive/negative, not me. -shrug- sorry >Lets hear some facts >about the herpes antibody scale, how high can it possibly go and what >is the typical road map of infection as the antibody count increases? Not sure what you mean by "road map of infection". But very little about Herpes is "typical". Seems it affects everyone differently and everyone has a different experience with it. >There must be many many people walking around with herpes damage that >have been sold a bill of goods by medical doctors as to what their >medical problems are. That's not limited to Herpes, unfortunately. The days of depending entirely on a doctor and accepting everything he/she says as gospel are over. They're certainly not always wrong either though. Getting a doc's opinion/advice/counsel is the most important thing you can do. And sometimes a second, third, and fourth opinion as well. It's just that there's still quite a bit about Herpes that western medicine doesn't know. Nobody cares about your health as much as you do though. So you're doing the right thing by finding out all you can with your own research. When you run across the kind of information you're looking for, don't forget to post it here. Meanwhile, I hope someone else here can point you in the right direction. M2
From: Yoshi2me on 15 Apr 2007 10:17 The number of the antibody doesn't have anything to do with anything. In other words if you have a 5.0 or a 38.40 it's all the same thing. The lab was correct in telling you to ask your doctor about it. Angela -- www.yoshi2me.com www.yoshi2me.com/phpbb/index.php www.herpes-help.blogspot.com www.PositiveSingles.com/i/af20002361
From: Rich on 15 Apr 2007 17:32 On Apr 15, 10:17 am, "Yoshi2me" <yoshi...(a)zippety-doo-dah.com> wrote: > The number of the antibody doesn't have anything to do with anything. In > other words if you have a 5.0 or a 38.40 it's all the same thing. The lab > was correct in telling you to ask your doctor about it. > > Angela > > --www.yoshi2me.comwww.yoshi2me.com/phpbb/index.phpwww.herpes-help.blogspot.comwww.PositiveSingles.com/i/af20002361 Angela, I strongly disagree that the antibody numbers don't have anything to to do with anything. The longer a human is infected with herpes the long it has to migrate and most probably yhe more a person is infected internally the higher the antibody level. That is my hypothesis. The higher the antibody level the more the body is infected. It makes common sense to me. Show me something scientific that explains or fails to explains the meaing of the anti-body level. How amny old people that were infected with herpes before the days of Valtrex never got a diagnoisis and have the virus lingering in their body's for decades? Maybe the medical estabilshment takes a wellit's just too darn ;late in the game to help those old timers , no need to let on that they have a serious herpes infection doing all the damage. With herpes being such a common virus and no treamant until recently what are the long term affects in the central nervous system, etc. I have read where herpes in the centralnervous system causes a multude of common aliments, including psychiatric symptoms. The so called medical establishment likes to pretend that its rare for herpes to migrate to the central nervous system and I flat out do not personaly believe that to be true. For example, examine the blood anti-body level for people diagnosed with mental illness and find out what percentage turn out positive for herpes blood anti-body and at what level of anti-body. Like the movie says, show me the money, I want to to see the facts and real statistics. What about people that have all these hard to treat illnesses..maybe coroners office should complie stats on deceased people and record their herpes antibody level. Then correlate that number back to all the medical afflictions they paid thousands of dollars to treat with no avial. Direct me me to the science on antibody levels. Thanks Rich
From: Grant on 15 Apr 2007 21:29
Hi Rich, What kind of ailments are you talking about? You've been kind of vague. Herpes generally does not migrate once inside the body. It stays in the nerve bundle servicing the location where the infection happened. Now, people who have immunological problems might have some serious problems with herpes infections. But, for many of us, it tends to just be an annoyance. Measuring antibodies generally doesn't indicate the severity of an illness or infection. It is measuring the body's response to the infection. So, the numbers don't mean you have a bigger infection or a smaller one. It is only measuring how your body is reacting to it. As there is no blood test for herpes as a virus, we can only test for the antibodies to see if the body is reacting to the herpes virus. ar "Rich" <ashlin(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1176672735.977161.68460(a)y5g2000hsa.googlegroups.com... > On Apr 15, 10:17 am, "Yoshi2me" <yoshi...(a)zippety-doo-dah.com> wrote: >> The number of the antibody doesn't have anything to do with anything. In >> other words if you have a 5.0 or a 38.40 it's all the same thing. The lab >> was correct in telling you to ask your doctor about it. >> >> Angela >> >> --www.yoshi2me.comwww.yoshi2me.com/phpbb/index.phpwww.herpes-help.blogspot.comwww.PositiveSingles.com/i/af20002361 > > Angela, I strongly disagree that the antibody numbers don't have > anything to to do with anything. The longer a human is infected with > herpes the long it has to migrate and most probably yhe more a person > is infected internally the higher the antibody level. That is my > hypothesis. The higher the antibody level the more the body is > infected. It makes common sense to me. Show me something scientific > that explains or fails to explains the meaing of the anti-body level. > How amny old people that were infected with herpes before the days of > Valtrex never got a diagnoisis and have the virus lingering in their > body's for decades? Maybe the medical estabilshment takes a wellit's > just too darn ;late in the game to help those old timers , no need to > let on that they have a serious herpes infection doing all the damage. > With herpes being such a common virus and no treamant until recently > what are the long term affects in the central nervous system, etc. I > have read where herpes in the centralnervous system causes a multude > of common aliments, including psychiatric symptoms. The so called > medical establishment likes to pretend that its rare for herpes to > migrate to the central nervous system and I flat out do not personaly > believe that to be true. For example, examine the blood anti-body > level for people diagnosed with mental illness and find out what > percentage turn out positive for herpes blood anti-body and at what > level of anti-body. Like the movie says, show me the money, I want to > to see the facts and real statistics. What about people that have all > these hard to treat illnesses..maybe coroners office should complie > stats on deceased people and record their herpes antibody level. Then > correlate that number back to all the medical afflictions they paid > thousands of dollars to treat with no avial. Direct me me to the > science on antibody levels. Thanks > Rich > |