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From: guys on 12 Aug 2008 11:40 Today with recording glucometers and how easily we can digitize data, It might be very easy to design a set of software that fully describes any diabetic case fully from food input to cell use. That would be several orders of magnitude improvement over what I see today. I do know what happened years ago when we proposed an automated classroom. We encountered severe opposition that I still think was a case of "Unionism". With computer power we do not need a ten people to fly a 747. Medical guessing has not served me well. ----== Posted via Pronews.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.pronews.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >100,000 Newsgroups ---= - Total Privacy via Encryption =---
From: M�ck�� on 12 Aug 2008 13:12 On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 10:40:36 -0500, guys(a)consolidated.net wrote: > >With computer power we do not need a ten people > to fly a 747. That was never true. > >Medical guessing has not served me well. > > obviously. -- M�ck�� Deltec CoZmore Pumper Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org http://diabetes.niddk.nih.gov/dm/pubs/type1and2/ http://www.pandora.com enter "Jason & Demarco" http://www.ratbags.com/dechunging/ "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." ....Theodore Roosevelt (o �) --ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------------- "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve." ....Bilbo Baggins DISCLAIMER If you find a posting or message from me offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it. If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate... ..
From: Alan Mackenzie on 13 Aug 2008 11:08 guys(a)consolidated.net wrote: > > Today with recording glucometers and how easily we can > digitize data, It might be very easy to design a set of > software that fully describes any diabetic case fully > from food input to cell use. It might be. But I think that "might" is similar to the one that follows "if pigs had wings ...". And "fully", for any reasonable interpretation of the word, would leave a well controlled diabetic without a life. You'd need more inputs than just BG measurements. > That would be several orders of magnitude improvement over what I see > today. It would have snags, too. > I do know what happened years ago when we proposed an automated > classroom. We encountered severe opposition that I still think was a > case of "Unionism". ???? What's an automated classroom? What I am sitting in front of at the moment? Or the Hitch Hiker's Guide's "Computeach" where, when you get a right answer, you get to press a button which gives you a "thrilling zing"? No, if you want to learn, nothing beats a good teacher. Especially if what you are learning is a skill rather than a list of facts for a coming exam. > With computer power we do not need a ten people to fly a 747. Well you know more about flying than I do, but I wouldn't fancy being taken up into the air by someone who'd learnt to fly in an "automated classroom". > Medical guessing has not served me well. Hasn't it? How long have you survived as a diabetic so far, Guy? -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).
From: guys on 13 Aug 2008 11:41 On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:08:47 +0000 (UTC), Alan Mackenzie <acm(a)colin2.muc.de> wrote: >guys(a)consolidated.net wrote: >> >> Today with recording glucometers and how easily we can >> digitize data, It might be very easy to design a set of >> software that fully describes any diabetic case fully >> from food input to cell use. > >It might be. But I think that "might" is similar to the one that follows >"if pigs had wings ...". And "fully", for any reasonable interpretation >of the word, would leave a well controlled diabetic without a life. >You'd need more inputs than just BG measurements. > >> That would be several orders of magnitude improvement over what I see >> today. > >It would have snags, too. > >> I do know what happened years ago when we proposed an automated >> classroom. We encountered severe opposition that I still think was a >> case of "Unionism". > >???? What's an automated classroom? What I am sitting in front of at >the moment? Or the Hitch Hiker's Guide's "Computeach" where, when you >get a right answer, you get to press a button which gives you a >"thrilling zing"? > >No, if you want to learn, nothing beats a good teacher. Especially if >what you are learning is a skill rather than a list of facts for a >coming exam. > >> With computer power we do not need a ten people to fly a 747. > >Well you know more about flying than I do, but I wouldn't fancy being >taken up into the air by someone who'd learnt to fly in an "automated >classroom". > >> Medical guessing has not served me well. > >Hasn't it? How long have you survived as a diabetic so far, Guy? Just one comment since we are talking about the same. When you ride an airliner, the pilot has had extensive training in a ground based flight stimulator. I would have been buried long ago, if i had not had the education and a long record of data analysis to call on in the management of my diabetes. I had to raise hell with the docs on the dangerous condition I am trying to deal with. Here is a good link supplied to me be a very good poster. http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic/pred_wcp.htm > ----== Posted via Pronews.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.pronews.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >100,000 Newsgroups ---= - Total Privacy via Encryption =---
From: Susan on 13 Aug 2008 12:43 x-no-archive: yes guys(a)consolidated.net wrote: > They are a great aid for the lonely and the disturbed. > ;-D Susan
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