From: Mark Probert on
Vernon wrote:
> "Mark Probert" <markprobert(a)lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
> news:uwYQg.40$SD5.31(a)trndny01...
>> PeterB wrote:
>>> JohnDoe wrote:
>>>> Vernon wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Janna Hoskin" <janna_louise(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:G3qQg.19787$KA6.18888(a)clgrps12...
>>>>>
>>>>>> Rich wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Rich" <joshew(a)hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:JgpQg.10664$rE5.4610(a)tornado.socal.rr.com...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Vernon" <athere(a)athere> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:45121ea6$0$23870$882e0bbb(a)news.ThunderNews.com...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Mark Probert" <markprobert(a)lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:9HmQg.3239$Se.1941(a)trndny03...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> David Wright wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In article <45117712$0$23843$882e0bbb(a)news.ThunderNews.com>,
>>>>>>>>>>> Vernon <athere(a)athere> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Mark Probert" <markprobert(a)lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:wPdQg.3212$Se.671(a)trndny03...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.adderallxr.com/ty/ty_story/
>>>>>>>>>>>> The entire site is just about the most ignorant presentation I
>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>> ever seen.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> As someone who has actually had some training in psychology or
>>>>>>>>>>>> behavioral science,
>>>>>>>>>>> You're not sure which?
>>>>>>>>>> He skipped that class.
>>>>>>>>> Behavioral science IS psychology and V.V.
>>>>>>>>> Take some drugs or have a drink or a dozen.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I used both terms because there are some here who open their mouth
>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>> no education and I just identified two of them.
>>>>>>>> Okay, wise one. Tell us the difference between "punishment" and
>>>>>>>> "negative reinforcement" as defined by Dr. Skinner. Quickly now; you
>>>>>>>> lose points if you take time to look it up on the internet. If you
>>>>>>>> indeed studied the subject, the answer should be already in mind.
>>>>>>> Too late, Vern. Either you didn't know, or you weren't paying
>>>>>>> attention.
>>>>>>> I really don't believe you have any education in behavioral science
>>>>>>> OR
>>>>>>> psychology. You're just blowing smoke, as usual.
>>>>>> Oh, hey, if Vern never gets back to you on that question, can I
>>>>>> answer? I
>>>>>> know it!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (And I have a psych degree and have worked as a behavioural therapist
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> autistic children, and I take medication for my ADHD.)
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, good, so you keep yourself drugged.
>>>>> So you work with people who charge money to play games.
>>>>>
>>>>> After getting a degree and finding out the nonsense that Psychologists
>>>>> spout
>>>>> (no stats to back them up), the dishonesty and typically the general
>>>>> ignorance, I decided to go into Physics (not much opportunity except in
>>>>> teaching) and then changed to Engineering.
>>>> That's 2 PhD's at most. Where are the other ones you told us about
>>>> Vernon? You know, the ones that made you 'dominant scientist' somewhere,
>>>> helped you invent magnetic tape, got you in top position at NASA, helped
>>>> you overhaul the complete production procedures at Intel etc. And where
>>>> did you find the time to learn to speak German? Oh yeah, that's right,
>>>> you don't speak German.
>>> I guess you have little choice but to attack those infinitely more
>>> intelligent than you. I mean, what choice do you have?
>> When you and your ilk start actually providing science based information
>> and stop your antics of marginalization, the attacks will stop. You do
>> have the power. However, I do not expect you to use it, as you know your
>> audience is for the science illiterate.
>>
>
> Yes, he addresses you and johndoe entirely too often and seems to continualy
> expect cogent responses.

Vern, we are not his intended audience. He post his pharmablogger
bullshit for those who he thinks are weak minded alt nuts.

> Sometimes I wonder about him.

Only sometimes?

> I know that one way (as you say) to cause many to go ballistic is to claim
> that one actually has a science education. I realize that, in itself, gives
> no basis for knowledge in a particular science feild, but it is quite
> obvious that some have zero science education or experience.

True.

> It is paramount to me going to a news group on law or litigation techniques
> and blowing off. Even though I have had a LOT of experience with (not in)
> that feild as a consultant or reprentative, I have enough knowledge in it to
> know that I am grossly ignorant, except to always state truth and facts for
> the least probable problems.

So, you are now claiming to be the Dirty Harry of usenet?

>
From: Vernon on

"Mark Probert" <markprobert(a)lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
news:3o_Qg.50$SD5.3(a)trndny01...
> Vernon wrote:
>> "Mark Probert" <markprobert(a)lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
>> news:uwYQg.40$SD5.31(a)trndny01...
>>> PeterB wrote:
>>>> JohnDoe wrote:
>>>>> Vernon wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Janna Hoskin" <janna_louise(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:G3qQg.19787$KA6.18888(a)clgrps12...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rich wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Rich" <joshew(a)hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:JgpQg.10664$rE5.4610(a)tornado.socal.rr.com...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Vernon" <athere(a)athere> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:45121ea6$0$23870$882e0bbb(a)news.ThunderNews.com...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Mark Probert" <markprobert(a)lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:9HmQg.3239$Se.1941(a)trndny03...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> David Wright wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <45117712$0$23843$882e0bbb(a)news.ThunderNews.com>,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Vernon <athere(a)athere> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Mark Probert" <markprobert(a)lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:wPdQg.3212$Se.671(a)trndny03...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.adderallxr.com/ty/ty_story/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The entire site is just about the most ignorant presentation I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ever seen.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> As someone who has actually had some training in psychology or
>>>>>>>>>>>>> behavioral science,
>>>>>>>>>>>> You're not sure which?
>>>>>>>>>>> He skipped that class.
>>>>>>>>>> Behavioral science IS psychology and V.V.
>>>>>>>>>> Take some drugs or have a drink or a dozen.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I used both terms because there are some here who open their
>>>>>>>>>> mouth with
>>>>>>>>>> no education and I just identified two of them.
>>>>>>>>> Okay, wise one. Tell us the difference between "punishment" and
>>>>>>>>> "negative reinforcement" as defined by Dr. Skinner. Quickly now;
>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>> lose points if you take time to look it up on the internet. If you
>>>>>>>>> indeed studied the subject, the answer should be already in mind.
>>>>>>>> Too late, Vern. Either you didn't know, or you weren't paying
>>>>>>>> attention.
>>>>>>>> I really don't believe you have any education in behavioral science
>>>>>>>> OR
>>>>>>>> psychology. You're just blowing smoke, as usual.
>>>>>>> Oh, hey, if Vern never gets back to you on that question, can I
>>>>>>> answer? I
>>>>>>> know it!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (And I have a psych degree and have worked as a behavioural
>>>>>>> therapist with
>>>>>>> autistic children, and I take medication for my ADHD.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, good, so you keep yourself drugged.
>>>>>> So you work with people who charge money to play games.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> After getting a degree and finding out the nonsense that
>>>>>> Psychologists spout
>>>>>> (no stats to back them up), the dishonesty and typically the general
>>>>>> ignorance, I decided to go into Physics (not much opportunity except
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> teaching) and then changed to Engineering.
>>>>> That's 2 PhD's at most. Where are the other ones you told us about
>>>>> Vernon? You know, the ones that made you 'dominant scientist'
>>>>> somewhere,
>>>>> helped you invent magnetic tape, got you in top position at NASA,
>>>>> helped
>>>>> you overhaul the complete production procedures at Intel etc. And
>>>>> where
>>>>> did you find the time to learn to speak German? Oh yeah, that's right,
>>>>> you don't speak German.
>>>> I guess you have little choice but to attack those infinitely more
>>>> intelligent than you. I mean, what choice do you have?
>>> When you and your ilk start actually providing science based information
>>> and stop your antics of marginalization, the attacks will stop. You do
>>> have the power. However, I do not expect you to use it, as you know your
>>> audience is for the science illiterate.
>>>
>>
>> Yes, he addresses you and johndoe entirely too often and seems to
>> continualy expect cogent responses.
>
> Vern, we are not his intended audience. He post his pharmablogger bullshit
> for those who he thinks are weak minded alt nuts.
>
>> Sometimes I wonder about him.
>
> Only sometimes?
>
>> I know that one way (as you say) to cause many to go ballistic is to
>> claim that one actually has a science education. I realize that, in
>> itself, gives no basis for knowledge in a particular science feild, but
>> it is quite obvious that some have zero science education or experience.
>
> True.
>
>> It is paramount to me going to a news group on law or litigation
>> techniques and blowing off. Even though I have had a LOT of experience
>> with (not in) that feild as a consultant or reprentative, I have enough
>> knowledge in it to know that I am grossly ignorant, except to always
>> state truth and facts for the least probable problems.
>
> So, you are now claiming to be the Dirty Harry of usenet?
>

More the opposite. In the cases above it was more like, "Get Vernon in the
interrogation room. He doesn't miss much of what goes on and he knows the
contract better than anyone."

I never volunteered.


From: Peter Bowditch on
"Jan Drew" <jdrew1374(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>?2006 Shire US Inc., Wayne, Pennsylvania

Why do you keep posting this copyright notice without any accompanying
text, Jan?
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From: Vernon on

"Linda Gore" <indomitable2(a)netzero.com> wrote in message
news:pT0Rg.1182$o71.94(a)newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>

All new things not associated with health snipped.
Anal fixation with political figures removed.


From: Mark Probert on
Vernon wrote:

> You wouldn't know what the term "fuzzy logic" means.
>
> You associate fuzzy with that wet feeling between your legs.
> Of course it is exacerbated by hate and more hate. Don't worry, there are a
> lot of people who get excited through masochistic and sadistic fantasies.
>
> When you get an education try not to read any of your past writings. You
> will be embarrassed.

Now, Vern, be kind.