From: ace_berzerker on
Sumbuny wrote:
> "Vernon" <athere(a)athere> wrote in message
> news:451850d7$0$23824$882e0bbb(a)
>> Pragmatic and consistant behavior based on a beleif system is a religion
>> Jogging EVERY day is a religion.
>> TaiChi IS a religion
>> Yoga is a religion.
> *IF* it becomes all-comsuming, anything can be a religion...for some, their
> computer is their god--is that so for you?
> Is "anti-medication" *your* religion??? It would seem so to many here...

From: Vernon on

"Sumbuny" <Sumbuny(a)> wrote in message
>> AD/HD doesn't exist except on paper.
> Nest thing you will be insisting is that my son's co-morbid autism does
> not exist either (as well as his co-existing determination of being
> academically gifted)...

ADHD is NOT Autism and isn't related.

Don't get trapped into those who want to suck you into their camp or hang on
to your dilemma..

There is nothing (nothing) more lovable and special than the autistic.

It is not a training or psychological problem. It is physical. If
researchers can keep their concentration of analyzing nerve synapses et al
without interference from pseudo scientists called psychologists or
psychiatrists, there WILL, someday, be a cure or almost cure or even
prevention. You may not see it, but don't get side tracked in other
variances. Don't let others try to LUMP your child into a vague group
including ADHD.

From: David Wright on
In article <1159277652.571398.304650(a)>,
PeterB <pkm(a)> wrote:
>David Wright wrote:
>> In article <1159195343.642419.156890(a)>,
>> PeterB <pkm(a)> wrote:
>> >
>> >David Wright wrote:
>> >> In article <1158938448.861054.249950(a)>,
>> >> PeterB <pkm(a)> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >JohnDoe wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >> That's 2 PhD's at most. Where are the other ones you told us about
>> >> >> Vernon? You know, the ones that made you 'dominant scientist' somewhere,
>> >> >> helped you invent magnetic tape, got you in top position at NASA, helped
>> >> >> you overhaul the complete production procedures at Intel etc. And where
>> >> >> did you find the time to learn to speak German? Oh yeah, that's right,
>> >> >> you don't speak German.
>> >> >
>> >> >I guess you have little choice but to attack those infinitely more
>> >> >intelligent than you. I mean, what choice do you have?
>> >>
>> >> Non-mathematicians like PeterB would be well advised to avoid
>> >> mentioning infinity. It just makes them sound dumb.
>> >
>> >You're hardly the one to be making a comment about mathematics. Do you
>> >still think that a murder in the hospital compromises data collected
>> >for an iatrongenic study? hehe
>> Thanks for reinforcing my point about you. Whether or not something
>> should be included in a set of statistics is a matter of
>> interpretation, not a matter of mathematics. I already knew you were
>> a mathematical dimwit, but it's good of you to supply more evidence.
>Funny that when you're making an argument, it isn't a matter of
>interpretation, it's a reason to debunk the entire conclusion of a
>study proving the dangers of pharmaceutical drugs.

Call it whatever you like. But it's not valid to take a set of five
deaths and extrapolate it to 100,000. I know you can't understand
that, but that's your problem.

>> You probably think all infinities are the same size.
>How could the space between your ears possibly be equal to that in any
>other vaccum?

Typical PeterB response when cornered -- never recognize error, just
hurl insults. You're pathetic, PeterB. Even Jan has occasionally
admitted she was wrong. But you aren't even capable of that.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"George Bush is a gruesome boob." -- Bill Maher
From: Peter Bowditch on
"Vernon" <athere(a)athere> wrote:

>"Sumbuny" <Sumbuny(a)> wrote in message
>> "Peter Bowditch" <myfirstname(a)> wrote in message
>> news:o6sgh2tlcftd0idvr45kqc8h8cir9ikf2d(a)
>>> ace_berzerker <ace_berzerker(a)> wrote:
>>>>Vernon wrote:
>>>>> The only thing I thought was that girls are easy and the prettier,
>>>>> the easier. By easy, I DON'T mean sexually, just easy to make a
>>>>> follower or partner. A LOT of it was not my charm (I didn't think I
>>>>> had any), but having answers in group studies and in lab work.
>>>>not part of my experience.
>>>>i went to a college prep for boys, run by the jesuits.
>>>>if we got out of line, there was 60 lines of shakespeare waiting to be
>>>>memorized on saturday morning.
>>> No problem for Vern. About the only thing he hasn't claimed is that he
>>> wrote Shakespeare, but he has probably appeared in all the plays.
>>> Probably taught Olivier and Brannagh how to act as well.
>> ROTFLMHO!!!! I have to remember this one!
>Actually it is nearly impossible for me to memorize (rote memorize).
>Now all the uneducated amateurs can find out what that infers.

It probably doesn't infer anything, although it might imply something.
Where was it you got your PhDs, Vern?

> (Sorry for
>the redundancy "uneducated amateurs", but many here wouldn't know that)
>Sorry about the uneducated who are just here for flame and troll. I
>actually have a life and have made money based on knowledge.
>> --
>> Buny
>> " Nobody realizes that some people expend tremendous energy merely to be
>> normal."
>> ~ Albert Camus
Peter Bowditch aa #2243
The Millenium Project
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From: Mark Probert on
Vernon wrote:
> "Mark Probert" <markprobert(a)> wrote in message
> news:6LgSg.1405$0Y2.255(a)trndny09...
>> Sumbuny wrote:
>>> "Vernon" <athere(a)athere> wrote in message
>>> news:4518526a$0$23950$882e0bbb(a)
>>>> "Sumbuny" <Sumbuny(a)> wrote in message
>>>> news:xbYRg.1379$Rp3.848(a)dukeread12...
>>>>> Teachers have to be very concerned about ADHD...their jobs may depend
>>>>> on how informed they are about it, if they have students that have
>>>>> it....
>>>> They have students they don't like. Children are not automons that need
>>>> "fixing".
>>> Please state where I have ever claimed that they where....
>>> What I have implied is that teachers will always have some students that
>>> need certain accommodations...and federal law *requires* that these
>>> accommodations be met...
>>>>> Besides have it myself, and having children with it, I am a dual major
>>>>> (special ed, and elementary ed)...I know at least a little about
>>>>> this...
>>>> You are obsessed with yoursel and have passed it on to your children.
>>> There you go...assUming again...
>>> I was diagnosed with ADHD about 10 years after my children were...
>>>> AD/HD doesn't exist except on paper.
>>> Nest thing you will be insisting is that my son's co-morbid autism does
>>> not exist either (as well as his co-existing determination of being
>>> academically gifted)...
>>> I suppose that both of these are "just on paper" as well?
>>> Tell us...where did you get your degree in neurology? or psychiatry?
>>> psychology?
>> Cracker Jack University.
> O.K. so you are jealous. Sorry.