From: SanHolo on
On Apr 8, 4:10 pm, "JOHN" <j...(a)nospam.com> wrote:
> 1 http://whale.to/vaccine/walker.html
> 2 http://whale.to/vaccine/walker11.html

Why don't you link to the original articles?? They can be found here:

http://www.cryshame.co.uk//index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=85&Itemid=123
http://www.cryshame.co.uk//index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=86&Itemid=124

CryShame wants to prefer M + M + R single shots instead of the combo-
MMR-shot until further research has been carried out - Japan is MMR-
combo-shot-free since around 1993 and autism is still rising. So can
we finally concentrate on the _real_ cause of autism instead of this
vaccine-bashing?
From: HCN on

"SanHolo" <help.you.i.can(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:d9f53404-45c7-4b07-a90e-e7e4b2cb649d(a)2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 8, 4:10 pm, "JOHN" <j...(a)nospam.com> wrote:
>> 1 http://whale.to/vaccine/walker.html
>> 2 http://whale.to/vaccine/walker11.html
>
> Why don't you link to the original articles?? They can be found here:
>
> http://www.cryshame.co.uk//index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=85&Itemid=123
> http://www.cryshame.co.uk//index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=86&Itemid=124
>
> CryShame wants to prefer M + M + R single shots instead of the combo-
> MMR-shot until further research has been carried out - Japan is MMR-
> combo-shot-free since around 1993 and autism is still rising. So can
> we finally concentrate on the _real_ cause of autism instead of this
> vaccine-bashing?

Because Scudamore does not work that way.

1) The MMR being used in the UK, USA and several other countries has been
in use since 1971. There have been several studies, none have shown any
link to autism.

2) Japan used its own version of a combined vaccine, using the Urabe strain
for mumps (instead of the safer more effective Jeryl Lynn strain). After
they removed it, and made vaccines voluntary: autism continued to RISE...
along with the incidence of measles. Several college campuses were closed
in Japan to stem the measles outbreak last year:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18357755

"In 2007, measles outbreak occurred mainly among teen/twenties in Japan, and
many high-school, universities and colleges were closed to reduce spread of
measles. Some high school students became measles when they were in foreign
countries where measles has been eliminated, visited as school excursion.
Since introducing measles vaccine as routine immunization, number of measles
has been reduced remarkably in Japan. However, we had measles outbreak in
2001, and total annual patients number were estimated 200-300 thausands
mainly among young infants. The main reason was low immunization coverage of
measles at 1 year old, and operation to give measles vaccine as "the gift
for 1 year old birthday" has been introduced widely. Then immunization
coverage at this age was increased up from 50-60% (2001) to 80-90% (2006)
and total measles number was estimated less than 10,000 at 2005 and 2006,
however, measles outbreak occurred this time among teen/twenties in 2007.
The total number of adult measles (more than 15 y.o.) were higher than the
number of them at 2001 outbreak. To discontinue outbreak and to eliminate
measles, enhancement of measles control activities has been introduced in
Japan. Two doses policy with measles and rubella (MR) vaccine at 1 y.o. and
before elementary school has been introduced since 2006 and further,
supplementary immunization with MR at 1st grade in junior high school and
3rd grade in high school for 5 years from 2008 will start to eliminate
measles by 2012. Reporting system will be also changed from sentinels system
to notify to all measles cases system. In this paper, present
epidemiological situation on measles in Japan, measles elimination strategy
in WPRO, and plan for measles elimination in Japan are described."

I'm still waiting for someone who spouts "sanitation works better than
vaccines" line, to tell me if sanitation in the courntries now experiencing
a return of measles have had a severe reduction of sanitation. Those
countries include, in additon to Japan: the UK, Switzerland, Austria and
Australia.