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From: Nom dePlume on 4 May 2007 23:15
"rachel evelyn" <euqbotjfomxf(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Some substance, a lot of nonsense.

> It is widely believed that antidepressant drugs are the best treatment
> for stress, depression and anxiety. After consulting with their health
> professional, many sufferers will be put on a
> course of antidepressants, but how effective are these drugs? Not
> very, in fact they cannot provide a permanent cure and here are the
> reasons why.
> Antidepressant drugs are used to treat stress, depression and anxiety
> because of an alleged "chemical imbalance" within the brains of
> sufferers.

Wrong. Antidepressant drugs are used to treat depression because they work.
Theories as to why they work include conjectures regarding abnormal
neurotransmitter chemistry, but people do not take (and are not prescribed)
antidepressants because of any particular theory, but because they work.

> What this means is that there is a lack of a
> chemical responsible for regulating our moods called Serotonin.

This claim is simply wrong.

> If there is a lack of serotonin in the brain, is this then the root cause
> of anxiety, depression and stress?

"Stress" refers to a stimulus, not an emotional response. Low serotonin
levels could hardly cause stress.

You mix up anxiety, depression, and stress as if they were the same thing.
They aren't.

> Unfortunately, there is no evidence at all to support this theory.

Which theory? You haven't described a theory that makes enough sense for
anyone to evaluate it.

> Indeed, low levels
> of serotonin are a symptom of stress, depression and anxiety.

So you believe that low serotonin levels do occur in people who are
depressed? A minute ago, you said there was no evidence that low serotonin
levels were found in depressed people. Or did you? Your writing is
sufficiently confusing that it's difficult to know what you are claiming.

> The
> issue here is that treating one of the many symptoms
> of these problems will only mask the cause and will therefore be
> unable to provide a complete cure.
> The main reason why antidepressant drugs are prescribed to people who
> suffer from stress, depression and anxiety is because a chemical
> imbalance in the brain is believed to be the root
> cause. But this is just a theory, there is no evidence to support it
> whatsoever.

This is simply wrong. There is evidence that depression is correlated with
low serotonin levels (which is not the same as saying that only low
serotonin levels cause depression).

> A chemical imbalance is just one of the many symptoms
> involved.

Now you are back to saying that the low serotonin levels you don't believe
in are real after all.

> All antidepressant drugs do is to treat one symptom. What's
> astonishing is that there is no test to determine the levels of the
> imbalance. Treating the symptoms will not provide a cure, the only way
> to cure stress, depression and anxiety is to treat the root cause,
> harmful and flawed modes of thinking.
> If you're taking an antidepressant and it isn't working, you will be
> told that:
> "some drugs are more effective than others. What works on one person
> may not be as effective with another. That's why doctors repeatedly
> change the type of drug. It's simply a matter of
> finding the drug that is right for you." This simply isn't true.

This is absolute nonsense. It most certainly is true, as many people,
including myself, can testify.

> There
> are other factors - tolerance to a drug, dosage of a drug and the
> simple fact that chemical imbalances aren't the root
> cause of your anxiety or depression. Tellingly, Yale University has
> published results showing that for 70% of people, antidepressant drugs
> are totally ineffective.

On average, the probably that any single antidepressant will help any
particular individual is about 30%. This does not mean that only 30% of
people with depression can be helped by medication. It means that most
people will try two or three medications before finding one that works well
for them.

> Other treatments, especially cognitive therapy, are far more effective.

Not true. Studies have shown comparable effectiveness of
cognitive-behavioral therapy, not dramatically superior results, and best
results were obtained from a combination of the two.

> You're now aware of the reasons as to why antidepressants cannot
> provide a cure for stress, depression or anxiety. Please use the
> information to help you select better treatments and you will soon
> start to enjoy a happier future.
> Please Note: If you are taking a course of antidepressant medication,
> please do not stop taking your medication until you have consulted
> with your health professional. They will be able
> to advise you on how best to withdraw from the medication in a fully
> controlled, safe way.

You are spreading nonsense, and your "blog" is nothing but a content-free
commercial for a book.

--
Nom dePlume, Ph.D.
Why, yes, in fact, I am a rocket scientist.

Guide to Medications for Mental Illness:
http://www.geocities.com/nomdeplume1000/

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From: sunseven on 17 May 2007 02:25
On May 4, 3:32 am, rachel evelyn <euqbotjfo...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> It is widely believed that antidepressant drugs are the best treatment
> for stress, depression and anxiety. After consulting with their health
> professional, many sufferers will be put on a......

Feel free to not take meds if you don't want to. As for me, they've
saved my life and helped me in ways that psychoanalysis, therapy,
focusing on the positive, etc etc never have. For me, it's about
quality of life and medication is what has worked best for me.



From: Doug Laidlaw on 24 May 2007 08:38
sunseven wrote:

> On May 4, 3:32 am, rachel evelyn <euqbotjfo...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>> It is widely believed that antidepressant drugs are the best treatment
>> for stress, depression and anxiety. After consulting with their health
>> professional, many sufferers will be put on a......
>
> Feel free to not take meds if you don't want to. As for me, they've
> saved my life and helped me in ways that psychoanalysis, therapy,
> focusing on the positive, etc etc never have. For me, it's about
> quality of life and medication is what has worked best for me.

There are many causes for depression. In my case there is a hereditary
factor. Changes in attitude will help, but they can't do anything about
physical defects one is born with. My pdoc is looking for a way to
counteract these factors, but until one is found, I have to stay on meds.

Doug L.
--
Life is either a daring adventure, or nothing.
- Helen Keller

From: faex23 on 29 May 2007 22:59
On May 24, 7:38 pm, Doug Laidlaw <laidl...(a)doughost.invalid> wrote:
> sunseven wrote:
> > On May 4, 3:32 am, rachel evelyn <euqbotjfo...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> It is widely believed that antidepressant drugs are the best treatment
> >> for stress, depression and anxiety. After consulting with their health
> >> professional, many sufferers will be put on a......
>
> > Feel free to not take meds if you don't want to. As for me, they've
> > saved my life and helped me in ways that psychoanalysis, therapy,
> > focusing on the positive, etc etc never have. For me, it's about
> > quality of life and medication is what has worked best for me.
>
> There are many causes for depression. In my case there is a hereditary
> factor. Changes in attitude will help, but they can't do anything about
> physical defects one is born with. My pdoc is looking for a way to
> counteract these factors, but until one is found, I have to stay on meds.
>
> Doug L.
> --
> Life is either a daring adventure, or nothing.
> - Helen Keller

I concur with Doug L.

Anti-depressant medications likely saved ny life.

I ried medication after medication until finally I was given a trial
of

Nardil. They were actually trying different medications for
Agoraphobia.

Thankfully I didn't try Nardil until I entered the first severe major
depression

of my life. In terms of searching for an effective medication, I was,
as the

pharmacist stated "at the end of the line."

Nardil worked.

I have sympathy for everyone experiencing diffiiculties

with anti-depressant medications. I certainly know how it feels

To categoricaly dismiss the salutary effects

of effective assistance is folly and dangerous.

Larry









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