From: john on
The Age of Autism: Pox -- Part 1

By Dan Olmsted for UPI
http://tinyurl.com/qhcet

Children in families with problematic reactions to chickenpox virus
may be at risk for developing autism if they get that live-virus
immunization too close to other live-virus vaccines, a three-month United
Press International investigation of cases in one northwest U.S. city
suggests.
Several such families in the Washington state capital of Olympia
watched their children regress into full-syndrome autism -- losing language
and social skills and adopting repetitive behaviors -- in the months
following the shots. Two children had participated in small clinical trials
in Olympia of investigational Merck & Co. chickenpox vaccines in combination
with the live-virus mumps-measles-rubella vaccine -- the MMR.
Federal health authorities consistently have rejected concerns about a
link between immunizations and autism. But a family background of problems
coping with viruses used in live-virus vaccines has not been considered a
possible risk factor, experts said.
One of the children in the clinical trials, Jimmy Flinton, now 4, got
about 10 times the standard dose of chickenpox vaccine in a shot that also
contained the standard MMR.
Called ProQuad, that combined immunization was approved by the U.S.
Food and Drug Administration last September -- the first time four
"attenuated" or weakened live viruses have been mixed together in a single
shot.
The second child, Timothy Baltzley, now 6, got an investigational
"process upgrade" chickenpox shot and a separate MMR shot at the same office
visit.
Both children have a parent who had unusual reactions to chickenpox
virus.

Four days after the MMR and chickenpox injections he became ill with a
fever and lay limp in his mother's arms for the first time in his life.


Timothy's Baltzley's mother, Kimberly, had chickenpox three times, the
last at age 16, just three years before he was born. Jimmy Flinton's father,
Paul, had shingles as a teenager. Shingles is reactivated chickenpox virus
that painfully inflames nerves and mostly affects older people or those with
weakened immune systems.
Both children got the vaccines at 12 months, the age at which
chickenpox and MMR immunizations are first recommended by the Centers for
Disease Control and Prevention. They were among a total of 101 subjects in
the two trials in Olympia, according to the Western Institutional Review
Board, which approved the trial protocols.
Half-a-dozen other parents of preschool-age autistic children from the
same neighborhood in Olympia recognized a common thread: unusual chickenpox
histories in their families and simultaneous or closely timed chickenpox and
MMR shots in their children.
"It's the proximity of the chickenpox and MMR vaccinations" and the
family histories that stand out, said Denise Rohrbeck, mother of 3-year-old
Grant.
Rohrbeck has not been able to develop immunity to chickenpox despite
being twice vaccinated as an adult, the last time just two years before her
son was born. A couple of months before he got the standard chickenpox and
MMR shots at the same office visit at age 1, Grant had a stubborn and severe
case of roseola, which like chickenpox is a herpesvirus.
Four days after the MMR and chickenpox injections he became ill with a
fever and lay limp in his mother's arms for the first time in his life.
"He began having chronic diarrhea, and by his 15-month checkup he had
regressed so drastically that his pediatrician suggested he could be
autistic," Rohrback recalled. The doctor agreed to the parents' request for
an immediate neurodevelopmental evaluation, which resulted in a diagnosis of
full-syndrome autism.
Rohbeck said she began looking for a possible connection between
vaccines and autism among neighborhood children after the Thurston County
Health Department did not follow up on parents' concerns raised at a meeting
last October. With the parents' continued involvement, she has now compiled
vaccination records of 14 Olympia children diagnosed with autism, as well as
16 who are not.
The admittedly unscientific chickenpox-MMR association continues to be
striking, and the two cases following the clinical trials seemed to
underscore it, she said.
A Merck spokeswoman said the company reported those two cases to the
FDA this March -- the same month UPI asked Merck about them.
"We just received these reports in March 2006, six months after
ProQuad was approved in the U.S., and they were sent to the FDA after we
received them," Merck's Christine Fanelle said in a statement. She said
Merck received "the two reports of autism AEs from Olympia -- one from the
parent of a child in the ProQuad trial and one from the parent of a child in
(the 'process upgrade' chickenpox) study."
Parents Jennifer Flinton and Kimberly Baltzley say they never called
Merck and wouldn't know who to contact there; last summer, Jennifer Flinton
reported Jimmy's autism to the federal government's Vaccine Adverse Events
Reporting System, attributing it to the cumulative effects of vaccination.
The federal health employee she spoke to on the phone said she would follow
up by gathering lot numbers and other information on the vaccines.
The parents said their pediatrician, who conducted both of the
Merck-funded trials in Olympia, knew about their children's autism diagnoses
within months of their participation in January 2001 and October 2002.
The Olympia trials were part of wider Merck studies conducted at
several sites in the United States and abroad. Fanelle said Merck would not
disclose information about any other reports of autism.
"We have confirmed your original inquiry on whether we received the
two reports out of Olympia," she said. "We are not going to comment on
reports beyond this.
"There were more than 7,000 children in our ProQuad trials, 5,800 of
whom received ProQuad vaccine," she added.
Diana Sparby of the Western Institutional Review Board in Olympia said
it had not received reports of autism from the local ProQuad study, but she
noted the protocol "was not designed to assess long-term safety, as it
called for follow-up for only 42 days following vaccine administration."
The FDA, which approves drugs after determining they are safe and
effective and monitors reports of side effects after they come on the
market, did not respond to repeated inquiries from UPI about the Olympia
cases or parents' concerns about family chickenpox histories.
Other unusual histories in neighborhood families with autistic
children 6 and under:
-- Another child had roseola 12 weeks before getting his chickenpox
and MMR shots;
-- Another father had shingles as a teenager;
-- Another mother had chickenpox as an adult two years before her
pregnancy; -- A mother had chronic cold sores, also a herpesvirus, as
a child that were so severe they had to be treated medically;
In addition, another mother had a case of measles as an adult.
Merck, which manufactures the standard MMR shot and the standalone
Varivax chickenpox shot as well as the experimental vaccines used in the
clinical trials, said repeated studies show no relation between vaccines and
autism.
"We don't see an association," spokeswoman Fanelle said, citing as
confirmation a 2004 report by the widely respected Institute of Medicine,
part of the National Academies. That report rejected a link between autism
and either the MMR vaccine or the mercury-based preservative thimerosal. The
report also urged that research dollars be spent on "more promising" autism
research.
"There will always be some people who say vaccines cause autism
despite the lack of scientific evidence," Fanelle said.
In the United States, controversy over a possible link has centered on
thimerosal. Beginning in the late 1980s children were exposed to increasing
amounts of thimerosal, which is half ethyl mercury, as more vaccines were
mandated.
Thimerosal was phased out of routine childhood immunizations -- but
not all flu shots given to children and pregnant women -- beginning in 1999.
Although the Olympia children with autism were born after the phase-out was
recommended, their vaccine records show more than half of them got at least
one shot containing thimerosal during the first year of life. It is possible
all of them did, but incomplete information from manufacturers makes that
uncertain.
Chickenpox and MMR immunizations don't contain thimerosal because the
mercury would inactivate the viruses, but some proponents of a
vaccine-autism link suspect thimerosal exposure from other immunizations
could have a potentiating effect, damaging a child's defenses and paving the
way for live viruses to wreck havoc.

"I'll defend doctors to the end on this point. They are a convenient
front line for those agencies to hide behind -- it's just shameful."

All live-virus vaccines are attenuated -- significantly weakened based
on the theory that this creates immunity without causing the actual disease
or other adverse health consequences. Other vaccines on the U.S. childhood
immunization schedule, including hepatitis B and the polio shot, contain
killed or so-called inactivated viruses. Live polio virus was dropped in
2000 after health authorities determined it was actually causing polio in a
small number of cases.
Despite the Olympia parents' concern, none points an accusing finger
at doctors.
"I worry about pediatricians being vilified," said Rohrbeck. "We
vaccinated our son because we shared their faith that vaccines were safe.
"If it turns out that some vaccines are not safe for all children and
that these hazards could have been found with more rigorous testing -- or
worse, that the dangers were already known -- that's the fault of the CDC,
the FDA and the manufacturers," she said.
"I'll defend doctors to the end on this point. They are a convenient
front line for those agencies to hide behind -- it's just shameful."
The theory that live virus immunizations could trigger autism first
arose in 1998 in Britain, when gastroenterologist Dr. Andrew Wakefield
published a paper suggesting a possible association between childhood MMR
immunization, bowel disease and regressive autism.

"It's actually heartbreaking, listening to these parents, because
you're staring into an abyss," Wakefield said.

The premise: Interaction between viruses -- a well-known phenomenon
scientifically known as immune interference -- could depress a susceptible
child's immune system, lead to persistent infection by the measles virus in
the GI tract and possibly the nervous system itself, and trigger
autism-inducing brain damage. While the case has not been proven, it gains
plausibility from the fact that naturally occurring measles infection is
known to cause delayed brain damage in a small percentage of children,
proponents of the theory say.
Wakefield's study, and his plea in Britain to separate the component
measles, mumps and rubella (German measles) vaccines and administer them a
year apart to reduce possible risk, caused an uproar. Co-authors
subsequently repudiated part of the paper, conflict-of-interest allegations
emerged, and the prestigious Lancet, which originally published the study,
issued a statement calling it "fatally flawed."
Wakefield was asked to leave his medical job in Britain and is now
doing research in Austin, Texas.
After the Olympia cases were described to him by UPI in March,
Wakefield met with several of those parents at an autism conference in
Portland, Ore. He also read studies Merck cites as central to the FDA
approval of ProQuad.
"It's actually heartbreaking, listening to these parents, because
you're staring into an abyss," Wakefield said afterwards. "You're listening
to stories which reflect the fundamental misconception of vaccine
manufacturers of what viruses are and what they do. The whole perception of
these people is dangerously na?ve."
In contrast to the United States, British health authorities have not
recommended chickenpox immunization. But an MMR-chickenpox shot was under
discussion there at one point, and Wakefield said he warned its developers
that putting four live viruses in one shot was a bad idea.
He says the Olympia cases show why.
"As far as I'm concerned, you are further increasing the likelihood of
persistent infection and delayed disease, which they are never looking for
and therefore they will never find if it does occur, as it did clearly in a
relatively short space of time with some of these children, and it's never
ascribed to an adverse reaction to the vaccine."
On its Web site, the CDC says such concerns -- and Wakefield's studies
in particular -- are not based on good science.
"Current scientific evidence does not support the hypothesis that MMR
vaccine, or any combination of vaccines, causes the development of autism,
including regressive forms of autism," the CDC says.
"The existing studies that suggest a causal relationship between MMR
vaccine and autism have generated media attention. However, these studies
have significant weaknesses and are far outweighed by epidemiological
studies ... that have consistently failed to show a causal relationship
between MMR vaccine and autism."
http://www.cdc.gov/nip/vacsafe/concerns/autism/autism-mmr.htm

Dr. Jeff Bradstreet, a family practitioner in Florida who treats
3,000 autistic children and has worked with Wakefield, said he believes the
risk of autism rises the earlier and closertogether that live-virus vaccines
are administered. He warned the Institute of Medicine in 2004 that it was
ignoring the possibility that younger children are more vulnerable because
their immune and neurological systems are immature.
"There's definitely been an association of kids getting MMR at 12
months and crashing (becoming autistic)," Bradstreet said.
He said adding 10 times the standard dose of chickenpox virus, called
varicella-zoster, to the MMR shot and administering it to 1-year-olds is
playing with fire.
"We think putting varicella with MMR is just nuts."
British researcher Paul Shattock sees another reason to be concerned
with combining the four viruses: He suspects that children who get wild --
or naturally occurring -- chickenpox too close in time to the MMR shot face
a higher risk for autism. That's scenario parallels the one Olympia parents
noticed with the chickenpox vaccination.
Shattock, director of the Autism Research Unit in the School of
Sciences at the University of Sunderland, said he noticed that autistic
British children whose parents blame the MMR for triggering the disorder had
a pattern of "undisclosed viral illness" around the time of the shot.
He studied the records of 100 of those children, compared to 100
children whose parents did not cite the MMR as the trigger, to see if there
was a higher incidence of chickenpox cases three months before or after the
MMR immunization.
"Now, there was," Shattock said in an interview while attending an
autism conference this month in Washington, D.C. "It wasn't statistically
significant at the 95 percent level -- but enough to make you think that if
it was a huge study, it might be."

"There's no doubt the immune response to viruses is determined by our
genetic constitution," Wakefield said. "It may well be there is a
genetically determined predisposition to abnormal handling of chickenpox
virus, at least in children.

His concern about adding chickenpox to the MMR shot: "I'm worried
about it because of the interference of the vaccines, mainly because it
depresses the immune system by yet another mechanism."
A Merck scientist discussed that issue at a CDC meeting in 2004, the
year before ProQuad was approved, according to agency minutes. Dr. Florian
Schodel "confirmed the possibility" that the chickenpox virus component of
ProQuad was "causing a local immune suppression and an increase in measles
virus replication. ...
"The current hypothesis is that the varicella and measles virus are
co-infecting the same or proximate areas of the body and engaging in a
specific interaction, but how that works is as yet unknown."
He said the interference appeared to involve only the chickenpox and
measles viruses -- "there is no such effect for the mumps or rubella
vaccines administered locally at the same time."
At the same meeting, Merck's Dr. Barbara Keller said the amount of
chickenpox virus in ProQuad is "about a log" -- or 10 times -- higher than
Merck's standalone chickenpox vaccine, Varivax, in order to overcome immune
interference.
Both Wakefield and Shattock said the Olympia families' unusual
histories with chickenpox are worrisome because their children might have
inherited problems coping with the vaccine.
"There's no doubt the immune response to viruses is determined by our
genetic constitution," Wakefield said. "It may well be there is a
genetically determined predisposition to abnormal handling of chickenpox
virus, at least in children.
"This kind of phenomenon has been shown to (play a role in) measles.
The immune response to measles is determined by your genetic profile. It's
certainly consistent with what is known about the immune response to
viruses."
ProQuad is likely to be widely adopted by healthcare professionals who
previously administered separate MMR and Varivax shots.
"Use of licensed combination vaccines, such as (ProQuad), is preferred
to separate injection of their equivalent component vaccines," says the new
edition of the CDC's authoritative "Pink Book" on vaccine-preventable
diseases.
"When used, (the immunization) should be administered on or after the
first birthday, preferably as soon as the child becomes eligible for
vaccination."
This series of articles, based on reporting in Olympia in February and
March, tells the families' stories, looks at the scientific controversy and
examines implications for the autism-vaccine debate.
-- Next: "He has gone backward mentally ..."
-- E-mail: dolmsted(a)upi.com



From: David Wright on
In article <aJOdnUBhFsmPm9jZRVnysQ(a)bt.com>, john <scu23(a)btinternet.com> wrote:
>The Age of Autism: Pox -- Part 1
>
>By Dan Olmsted for UPI
>http://tinyurl.com/qhcet
>
> Children in families with problematic reactions to chickenpox virus
>may be at risk for developing autism if they get that live-virus
>immunization too close to other live-virus vaccines, a three-month United
>Press International investigation of cases in one northwest U.S. city
>suggests.

Well, this just figures, doesn't it? They're getting their next
target warmed up, now that the mercury-autism theory is fading, and
the MMR-autism link isn't looking too good either.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"If you can't say something nice, then sit next to me."
-- Alice Roosevelt Longworth
From: Peter Bowditch on
wright(a)l1000.prodigy.net (David Wright) wrote:

>In article <aJOdnUBhFsmPm9jZRVnysQ(a)bt.com>, john <scu23(a)btinternet.com> wrote:
>>The Age of Autism: Pox -- Part 1
>>
>>By Dan Olmsted for UPI
>>http://tinyurl.com/qhcet
>>
>> Children in families with problematic reactions to chickenpox virus
>>may be at risk for developing autism if they get that live-virus
>>immunization too close to other live-virus vaccines, a three-month United
>>Press International investigation of cases in one northwest U.S. city
>>suggests.
>
>Well, this just figures, doesn't it? They're getting their next
>target warmed up, now that the mercury-autism theory is fading, and
>the MMR-autism link isn't looking too good either.

So far it's been:

1. The first "M" in MMR.
2. The "R" in MMR.
3. The "mercury" in DTP.
4. Something in polio vaccine (but only transmitted to those who don't
die of cancer because of the SV40 virus).
5. Pasteurised milk. (My favourite - you can see why I trust Mercola)
6. Chicken pox vaccine (if given to a child).
7. The "mercury" in vaccines given to the FATHER (!), passed on
through sperm cells.
8. Other people taking drugs and transmitting it by shared
consciousness. (vide Gail of the Newsgroups)
9. Aluminium in vaccine adjuvants.
10. Fluoride in the water (Mercola again - I love his consistency)
11. Aspartame (must be true - I read in on whale.to)
12. MSG (keep the kids away from pizza!)
13. Dioxin (It's in Revelation 13 -
http://www.revelation13.net/KingJames10a.html)

et cetera and et seq



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From: john on

"Peter Bowditch" <myfirstname(a)ratbags.com> wrote in message
news:e7lg429sinibho51d59tvq15mf2ka28qcv(a)4ax.com...

>
> So far it's been:
>
> 1. The first "M" in MMR.
> 2. The "R" in MMR.
> 3. The "mercury" in DTP.
> 4. Something in polio vaccine (but only transmitted to those who don't
> die of cancer because of the SV40 virus).
> 5. Pasteurised milk. (My favourite - you can see why I trust Mercola)
> 6. Chicken pox vaccine (if given to a child).
> 7. The "mercury" in vaccines given to the FATHER (!), passed on
> through sperm cells.
> 8. Other people taking drugs and transmitting it by shared
> consciousness. (vide Gail of the Newsgroups)
> 9. Aluminium in vaccine adjuvants.
> 10. Fluoride in the water (Mercola again - I love his consistency)
> 11. Aspartame (must be true - I read in on whale.to)
> 12. MSG (keep the kids away from pizza!)
> 13. Dioxin (It's in Revelation 13 -
> http://www.revelation13.net/KingJames10a.html)
>
> et cetera and et seq

Brain damage isn't restricted to one agent


From: Max C. on
john wrote:
> "Peter Bowditch" <myfirstname(a)ratbags.com> wrote in message
> news:e7lg429sinibho51d59tvq15mf2ka28qcv(a)4ax.com...

> Brain damage isn't restricted to one agent

Don't waste your time, John. There's not a single reader in this group
that considers that guy credible. As I proved a couple of weeks ago,
you can give the group 100% proof that he doesn't know what he's
talking about, then he'll change his position and act like his new
position was his meaning all along. I've plopped him into my ignore
list.

I'm happy to debate anyone with half a brain and that can follow a few
simple rules of debate. He doesn't qualify for either. He isn't worth
your time... and since no one here listens to him anyway, giving him
even a second of your time is more than he deserves.

Max.