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From: Nicky on 18 Apr 2008 03:18 The BBC have just done nothing for my blood pressure by saving that the NHS could save tons of money by "not encouraging Type 2s to test" - it's that damn BMJ article coming back to bite us. However, I simmered down a bit when they stopped doing the headline ear-grabbers and went to the article itself, which showed a perfectly sane, healthy T2 testing reasonably, and a woman I haven't seen before from DUK saying that SMBG prevents complications. They couldn't find a T2 who was prepared to say that too much testing made them a nervous wreck. Nicky (who would prefer to KNOW what her bg is so she can do something about it, thankyouverymuch!) T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid D&E, 100ug thyroxine Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25
From: Peter C on 18 Apr 2008 04:00 see... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7352321.stm
From: fastmoggy on 18 Apr 2008 06:47 "Nicky" <ukc802466929(a)btconnect.com> wrote in message news:mgig0496kqhakngnp540f4s6sf1mpqeciq(a)4ax.com... > The BBC have just done nothing for my blood pressure by saving that > the NHS could save tons of money by "not encouraging Type 2s to test" > - it's that damn BMJ article coming back to bite us. > > However, I simmered down a bit when they stopped doing the headline > ear-grabbers and went to the article itself, which showed a perfectly > sane, healthy T2 testing reasonably, and a woman I haven't seen before > from DUK saying that SMBG prevents complications. They couldn't find a > T2 who was prepared to say that too much testing made them a nervous > wreck. > Yes also saw it which made me a bit miffed. Id say it was 'normal' to be genuinely worried if you had a health problem with little chance of a cure. When i had my strips 'removed' for my own sanity (according to the PCT) my A1c was 5.4. After 12 months with no strips it was at Christmas 6.1 plus id put on a few kilos as now not testing i tend to have a 'one won't hurt me meal' .. My next 'full test' because of the rise is in June so at a guess id say it will be higher and i do exercise daily whether it be a 6 mile bike ride of a illy route (no chance of slacking! LOL) or a 5 mile walk to work and back.. Anyway i was just wondering how much i will cost the NHS when im injecting and stabbing? then times that by hundreds if not thousands. The problem with 'this' government is they think short term and know when the 'explosion' finally happens they will be long gone out the picture. As you say Nicky, I would prefer to know what my Bg's are so i can then adjust lifestyle.
From: John Williamson on 18 Apr 2008 08:50 fastmoggy wrote: > "Nicky" <ukc802466929(a)btconnect.com> wrote in message > news:mgig0496kqhakngnp540f4s6sf1mpqeciq(a)4ax.com... >> The BBC have just done nothing for my blood pressure by saving that >> the NHS could save tons of money by "not encouraging Type 2s to test" >> - it's that damn BMJ article coming back to bite us. >> >> However, I simmered down a bit when they stopped doing the headline >> ear-grabbers and went to the article itself, which showed a perfectly >> sane, healthy T2 testing reasonably, and a woman I haven't seen before >> from DUK saying that SMBG prevents complications. They couldn't find a >> T2 who was prepared to say that too much testing made them a nervous >> wreck. >> > Yes also saw it which made me a bit miffed. > > Id say it was 'normal' to be genuinely worried if you had a health problem > with little chance of a cure. > When i had my strips 'removed' for my own sanity (according to the PCT) my > A1c was 5.4. > After 12 months with no strips it was at Christmas 6.1 plus id put on a few > kilos as now not testing i tend to have a 'one won't hurt me meal' > . My next 'full test' because of the rise is in June so at a guess id say it > will be higher and i do exercise daily whether it be a 6 mile bike ride of a > illy route (no chance of slacking! LOL) or a 5 mile walk to work and back.. > Anyway i was just wondering how much i will cost the NHS when im injecting > and stabbing? then times that by hundreds if not thousands. > The problem with 'this' government is they think short term and know when > the 'explosion' finally happens they will be long gone out the picture. > > As you say Nicky, I would prefer to know what my Bg's are so i can then > adjust lifestyle. > Ditto. I'd been a feeling bit off before my last test a few weeks ago, so I'd not been testing, so I'd not noticed my diet deteriorating. Nothing physical, just a case of "What the hell, I can't be bothered". The result was an increase from 6.1 to 6.4, & they want another test in 3 months. Back to the grind.... ;-) I liked the attitude of the guy they interviewed, who apparently went from couch potato to hill walker & mountain climber after diagnosis due to his testing & control routine. :-) Then they showed a row of stationary bikes in a gym, implying that's what we should all be doing instead of testing. I wonder how much it costs to treat an exercise induced hypo in a gym? -- Tciao for Now! John.
From: Trinkwasser on 18 Apr 2008 09:15
On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 08:18:05 +0100, Nicky <ukc802466929(a)btconnect.com> wrote: >The BBC have just done nothing for my blood pressure by saving that >the NHS could save tons of money by "not encouraging Type 2s to test" >- it's that damn BMJ article coming back to bite us. > >However, I simmered down a bit when they stopped doing the headline >ear-grabbers and went to the article itself, which showed a perfectly >sane, healthy T2 testing reasonably, and a woman I haven't seen before >from DUK saying that SMBG prevents complications. They couldn't find a >T2 who was prepared to say that too much testing made them a nervous >wreck. > >Nicky (who would prefer to KNOW what her bg is so she can do something >about it, thankyouverymuch!) Yes here we go again Finding out what was *actually* happening was a major liberating experience for me, especially since I could actually *do* something about it thanks to Test Test Test Being fobbed off with bollocks, blame and excuses did far worse things to my state of mind Where's that old Kaiser Permanente paper http://www.jr2.ox.ac.uk/bandolier/band93/b93-4.html AFAICR the paper itself is not available FOC but it's referred here. Abstract only is available free from various sources. If Kaiser believe monitoring is cost effective it has to be true (though "intensive" is only three times a day) |