From: Andy Hall on
On 2008-07-24 05:16:48 +0100, Alan S <loralgtweightandcarbs(a)gmail.com> said:
>
> Over the top? I thought you were wonderfully understated and
> reasonable.
>
> I am debating whether to intrude from the far side of the
> world. Something equally understated.
>
> e.g "You have to be out of your mind!"
>
>
> Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.

Do you have Tescos in Oz, Alan? They have penetrated much of
Europe (in the biblical sense of the word if you like) so only a
matter of time.

The mass food industry remains geared up for "low fat", which is highly
convenient for them because they can substitute sugars for fats on the
basis of retaining flavour.

Some major manufacturers such as Heinz and a few others have dipped
their toes in the water of low carbohydrate prepared foods but have
found that the market is too small to warrant broad product ranges,
actively marketed.

Given that set of circumstances and muddled messages (at best) from the
government, it isn't surprising that Catherine is saying what she is
saying. It is covered by government policy and sales of product.
Nonetheless, telling them never does any harm.



From: Alan S on
On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 06:57:59 +0100, Andy Hall
<andyh(a)hall.nospam> wrote:

>On 2008-07-24 05:16:48 +0100, Alan S <loralgtweightandcarbs(a)gmail.com> said:
>>
>> Over the top? I thought you were wonderfully understated and
>> reasonable.
>>
>> I am debating whether to intrude from the far side of the
>> world. Something equally understated.
>>
>> e.g "You have to be out of your mind!"
>>
>>
>> Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
>
>Do you have Tescos in Oz, Alan? They have penetrated much of
>Europe (in the biblical sense of the word if you like) so only a
>matter of time.
>
>The mass food industry remains geared up for "low fat", which is highly
>convenient for them because they can substitute sugars for fats on the
>basis of retaining flavour.
>
>Some major manufacturers such as Heinz and a few others have dipped
>their toes in the water of low carbohydrate prepared foods but have
>found that the market is too small to warrant broad product ranges,
>actively marketed.
>
>Given that set of circumstances and muddled messages (at best) from the
>government, it isn't surprising that Catherine is saying what she is
>saying. It is covered by government policy and sales of product.
>Nonetheless, telling them never does any harm.
>
>
We don't have Tescos here, our equivalents would be Coles
and Woolworths. However, I've shopped in Tescos from Prague
to the UK, so I know what you mean.

Unfortunately I can't seem to access the page without
paying:-(


Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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From: John Williamson on
Alan S wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:43:22 +0100, John Williamson
> <johnwilliamson(a)btinternet.com> wrote:

>>
>> Possibly a little over the top, though.
>
> Over the top? I thought you were wonderfully understated and
> reasonable.
>
So did I, sticking to the facts & all that.
I did get a reply this morning:-

<Quote>
Thanks for the email. I appreciate all of your comments and I can
guarantee you that we will review all of our meal plans to ensure they
are in keeping with Diabetic recommendations-if any changes need to be
made they will be. I do sympathise with you about the loss of your
brother, it is tragic that poorly controlled diabetes contributed to his
death. However the diabetes plan that we offer is dietitian-approved but
we still require all people with diabetes to follow the plan, with their
own modifications, under medical supervision, this is mentioned on our
registration page.

I am aware that personal insults have been used about me on this board.
I have taken the time to reply to anyone that has emailed me about
this issue but I will not be having any further communication with you
about this as I feel that there are some individuals who are more
interested in attacking myself than discussing what we can do to improve
our online programmes.
<End quote>

Gives me the impression she thinks I'm attacking her personally.....
After I've made a couple of suggestions to improve the bit they publish
as well.

<Chuckle>
I'd threaten to stop using Tesco, but they've not got a branch round
here I can stay out of.

> I am debating whether to intrude from the far side of the
> world. Something equally understated.
>
> e.g "You have to be out of your mind!"
>
That'd be about right. :-)

--
Tciao for Now!

John.
From: Nicky on
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:38:42 +0100, John Williamson
<johnwilliamson(a)btinternet.com> wrote:

>I'd also be wondering how reliable the other plans are, given what's
>known about the shortcomings of the diabetic one for diabetics.

I would put money on Tescos having run their diet plan past DUK, and
got the OK from them. Shooting DUK's dieticians en masse would
probably improve the breed no end.

Tescos' GI diet is OK - my sister's following it, and it's pretty well
down the Jennie Brand-Millar line. I'm also impressed with Tescos'
fitness guys - you've got to break past the front line people to 2nd
line support, but the back-office people were able to work out a good
routine to fit my sister's various needs.

Nicky.
T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
D&E, 100ug thyroxine
Last A1c 5.4% BMI 25
From: John Williamson on
Nicky wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:38:42 +0100, John Williamson
> <johnwilliamson(a)btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>> I'd also be wondering how reliable the other plans are, given what's
>> known about the shortcomings of the diabetic one for diabetics.
>
> I would put money on Tescos having run their diet plan past DUK, and
> got the OK from them. Shooting DUK's dieticians en masse would
> probably improve the breed no end.
>
That's more or less what I'd suspected, too.

> Tescos' GI diet is OK - my sister's following it, and it's pretty well
> down the Jennie Brand-Millar line. I'm also impressed with Tescos'
> fitness guys - you've got to break past the front line people to 2nd
> line support, but the back-office people were able to work out a good
> routine to fit my sister's various needs.
>
Fair enough. I'd not checked, as it's not a particular interest of mine.
I suppose I just extended the level of care shown in the diabetic diet
to the other diets.

--
Tciao for Now!

John.