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From: John on 23 Jul 2008 18:03 On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:43:22 +0100, John Williamson <johnwilliamson(a)btinternet.com> wrote: >Andy Hall wrote: >> On 2008-07-23 20:16:11 +0100, Patti <patti.evanspen(a)btconnect.com> said: >> >>> Thought this might be of interest:- >>> >>> http://www.tescodiets.com/index.cfm?currpage=contact&subsection=contact&code=350144 >>> >> their >>> >>> suggested "diabetic diet" is so appalling that many members of >>> diabetes-support.org.uk have written to their dietitian protesting. >>> "Catherine" has written back extremely smugly defending their diet. I >>> wonder how many of you would be interested in pricking Catherine's >>> smug little balloon???? >>> Patti >>> Hba1c 5.5 >>> On Levemir and Novorapid + meds for BP and thyroid >>> Join us at http://www.diabetes-support.org.uk "The friendly forum!" >> >> What did you have in mind? >> >> >I sent this:- > >Start quote. > >Your Diabetic diet plan has been brought to my attention by a fellow >user of a diabetic support group on the internet. > >On checking this plan as sampled on this website, it would be totally >unsuitable for me as a type 2 diabetic on oral medication. > >60 Grams or more of fast acting carbohydrate at breakfast would cause a >massive hyperglycaemic problem for myself as well as most other type 2 >diabetics. > >Bananas and Weetabix both contain fast acting carbohydrates, leading to >a a damaging blood glucose level spike, followed by a reactive hypo for >a large number of diabetics. > >Risotto also contains very fast acting carbohydrates in the rice, which, >again, for most diabetics would cause a problem with massive peaks in >blood glucose levels. > >Pitta bread is high in refined starch, which again would cause problems. > >I would very strongly suggest that the published diet be revised to >include slower acting carbohydrates such as those contained in oats, >(Say, Oatibix onstead of Weetabix) & wholemeal cereal products as well >as reducing the total amount of carbohydrates in accordance with >globally recognised guidelines. > >For those injecting insulin, the problems are magnified, as the insulin >dose has to be increased to take account of the fast acting nature of >the carbohydrates you specify, which will probably lead to a >hypoglycaemic situation later on. > >Your published day's diet on this website would cause me to be >permanently hyperglycaemic, with immediate & long term deleterious >effects on my health. For a diabetic injecting insulin, this type of >diet has been proven to cause a roller coaster ride of high & low >extremes in blood glucose levels, leading to poor control of the >disease, possibly resulting in blindness, kidney failure & the need to >amputate limbs. Such problems were a contributory cause of my brother's >death. He was a type 1 diabetic with poorly controlled blood glucose, >kidney failure, & diabetic retinopathy. > >End quote. > >Possibly a little over the top, though. I think the main problem here isn't one of diet but of corporate thinking. Most of us believe different things - it's a free country - and sometime's we're right and sometimes we're wrong. But we decide for ourselves ultimately. But - increasingly these days - there's a third kind of person involved in our lives - the corporate person. Bad enough that such creatures write what they're paid to write and say what they're paid to say - unfortunately it sounds as though 'Catherine' belongs to that group of corporate animal that even thinks what they're paid to think. Their mind and their opinions are bought and paid for. Don't shout at 'Catherine' - rather feel sorry for the pitiable creature... John
From: John Williamson on 23 Jul 2008 18:38 John wrote: > On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:43:22 +0100, John Williamson > <johnwilliamson(a)btinternet.com> wrote: > >> I sent this:- >> >> Start quote. >> <Snip quote for brevity> >> End quote. >> >> Possibly a little over the top, though. > > I think the main problem here isn't one of diet but of corporate > thinking. Most of us believe different things - it's a free country - > and sometime's we're right and sometimes we're wrong. But we decide > for ourselves ultimately. > With guidance from all sources we consult. This is one such source that may be expected to carry a lot of weight with a large sector of the population. > But - increasingly these days - there's a third kind of person > involved in our lives - the corporate person. Bad enough that such > creatures write what they're paid to write and say what they're paid > to say - unfortunately it sounds as though 'Catherine' belongs to that > group of corporate animal that even thinks what they're paid to think. > Their mind and their opinions are bought and paid for. > > Don't shout at 'Catherine' - rather feel sorry for the pitiable > creature... > I'd like to know where the information came from. As a source which a lot of people will trust implicitly, there is a certain responsibility to only use & quote best practice, which this isn't. As the representative of her employers, she is, for want of a better term, in the line of fire. Working in a service industry myself, I know how it feels, but accept it as part of the job. I've only just sent my comment, so I will see what the reply says. If she just spouts corporate speak, then I'll know it's a lost cause. I'll not be following the plan, anyway. I'd also be wondering how reliable the other plans are, given what's known about the shortcomings of the diabetic one for diabetics. -- Tciao for Now! John.
From: Alan S on 24 Jul 2008 00:16 On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:43:22 +0100, John Williamson <johnwilliamson(a)btinternet.com> wrote: >Andy Hall wrote: >> On 2008-07-23 20:16:11 +0100, Patti <patti.evanspen(a)btconnect.com> said: >> >>> Thought this might be of interest:- >>> >>> http://www.tescodiets.com/index.cfm?currpage=contact&subsection=contact&code=350144 >>> >> their >>> >>> suggested "diabetic diet" is so appalling that many members of >>> diabetes-support.org.uk have written to their dietitian protesting. >>> "Catherine" has written back extremely smugly defending their diet. I >>> wonder how many of you would be interested in pricking Catherine's >>> smug little balloon???? >>> Patti >>> Hba1c 5.5 >>> On Levemir and Novorapid + meds for BP and thyroid >>> Join us at http://www.diabetes-support.org.uk "The friendly forum!" >> >> What did you have in mind? >> >> >I sent this:- > >Start quote. > >Your Diabetic diet plan has been brought to my attention by a fellow >user of a diabetic support group on the internet. > >On checking this plan as sampled on this website, it would be totally >unsuitable for me as a type 2 diabetic on oral medication. > >60 Grams or more of fast acting carbohydrate at breakfast would cause a >massive hyperglycaemic problem for myself as well as most other type 2 >diabetics. > >Bananas and Weetabix both contain fast acting carbohydrates, leading to >a a damaging blood glucose level spike, followed by a reactive hypo for >a large number of diabetics. > >Risotto also contains very fast acting carbohydrates in the rice, which, >again, for most diabetics would cause a problem with massive peaks in >blood glucose levels. > >Pitta bread is high in refined starch, which again would cause problems. > >I would very strongly suggest that the published diet be revised to >include slower acting carbohydrates such as those contained in oats, >(Say, Oatibix onstead of Weetabix) & wholemeal cereal products as well >as reducing the total amount of carbohydrates in accordance with >globally recognised guidelines. > >For those injecting insulin, the problems are magnified, as the insulin >dose has to be increased to take account of the fast acting nature of >the carbohydrates you specify, which will probably lead to a >hypoglycaemic situation later on. > >Your published day's diet on this website would cause me to be >permanently hyperglycaemic, with immediate & long term deleterious >effects on my health. For a diabetic injecting insulin, this type of >diet has been proven to cause a roller coaster ride of high & low >extremes in blood glucose levels, leading to poor control of the >disease, possibly resulting in blindness, kidney failure & the need to >amputate limbs. Such problems were a contributory cause of my brother's >death. He was a type 1 diabetic with poorly controlled blood glucose, >kidney failure, & diabetic retinopathy. > >End quote. > >Possibly a little over the top, though. Over the top? I thought you were wonderfully understated and reasonable. I am debating whether to intrude from the far side of the world. Something equally understated. e.g "You have to be out of your mind!" Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. -- Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. Blog http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com DLife column http://tinyurl.com/5v74xr http://loraltravel.blogspot.com (The Taj Mahal)
From: Alan S on 24 Jul 2008 00:19 On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:03:59 +0100, John <John(a)eff2ess.com> wrote: > >Don't shout at 'Catherine' - rather feel sorry for the pitiable >creature... > >John Her surname is Gollum? "my precious carbs..." Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. -- Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. Blog http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com DLife column http://tinyurl.com/5v74xr http://loraltravel.blogspot.com (The Taj Mahal)
From: Alan S on 24 Jul 2008 00:28
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:16:11 +0100, Patti <patti.evanspen(a)btconnect.com> wrote: >Thought this might be of interest:- > >http://www.tescodiets.com/index.cfm?currpage=contact&subsection=contact&code=350144 >their suggested "diabetic diet" is so appalling that many members of >diabetes-support.org.uk have written to their dietitian protesting. >"Catherine" has written back extremely smugly defending their diet. I >wonder how many of you would be interested in pricking Catherine's >smug little balloon???? >Patti >Hba1c 5.5 >On Levemir and Novorapid + meds for BP and thyroid >Join us at http://www.diabetes-support.org.uk "The friendly forum!" I can't seem to get in without paying. Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. -- Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. Blog http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com DLife column http://tinyurl.com/5v74xr http://loraltravel.blogspot.com (The Taj Mahal) |