From: Mark Probert on
On Mar 6, 10:46 pm, COUSIN Jan Drew-Probert <jdrew63...(a)aol.com>
wrote:
> On Mar 3, 8:49 am, Mark Probert <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Mar 3, 8:33 am, mainframetech <mainframet...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Mar 2, 5:01 pm, dr_jeff <u...(a)msu.edu> wrote:
>
> > > > john wrote:
>
> > > > > Joan Cranmer's Fateful Decisions and the Suppression of Autism Science
> > > > >
> > > > > By Mark Blaxill
> > > > >
> > > > > March 02, 2010
> > > > >http://www.ageofautism.com
> > > > >
> > > > > On February 12, 2010 the journalNeurotoxicology made a quiet change
> > > > on its
> > > > > web-site to an "in-press" article that had previously been available
> > > > as an
> > > > > "epub ahead of print." There was no press release or public
> > > > announcement,
> > > > > simply an entry change. The entry for the article, "Delayed
> > > > acquisition of
> > > > > neonatal reflexes in newborn primates receiving a thimerosal-containing
> > > > > Hepatitis B vaccine: Influence of gestational age and birth weight", was
> > > > > first modified to read "Withdrawn" and has since been removed altogether
> > > > > from the Neurotoxicology web-site. The only remaining official trace
> > > > of the
> > > > > paper is now the following listing on the National Library of Medicine's
> > > > > "PubMed" site.
> > > > >
> > > > > Neurotoxicology. 2009 Oct 2. [Epub ahead of print]
> > > > >
> > > > > WITHDRAWN: Delayed acquisition of neonatal reflexes in newborn
> > > > primates
> > > > > receiving a thimerosal-containing Hepatitis B vaccine: Influence of
> > > > > gestational age and birth weight.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hewitson L, Houser LA, Stott C, Sackett G, Tomko JL, Atwood D, Blue L,
> > > > > White ER, Wakefield AJ.
> > > > >
> > > > > Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology, University of Pittsburgh
> > > > School
> > > > > of Medicine, Pittsburgh, PA 15213, United States; Thoughtful House
> > > > Center
> > > > > for Children, Austin, TX 78746, United States.
> > > > >
> > > > > This article has been withdrawn at the request of the editor. The
> > > > > Publisher apologizes for any inconvenience this may cause.
> > > > >
> > > > > How can a scientific study simply vanish?
>
> > > > Crappy science is crappy science.
>
> > > > Just like Wakefield's crappy science.
>
> > > > Jeff
>
> > > > <...>
>
> > > The science of the original article can be judged by anyone that
> > > wants to look at it. The article in its original form is located at:
>
> > >http://fourteenstudies.org/pdf/primates_hep_b.pdf
>
> > Holy smoke! Pure bullshit. For clarification:
>
> >http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2009/04/generation_rescue_and_fourt...
>
> > > The discussion and conclusions at the end point out the need to
> > > look further into the problem of vaccines containing Thimerosal.
>
> > With a child being able to have all childhood vaccines without
> > Thimerosal, why waste money on that?
>
> > My
>
> > > own addition is that they ought to look also at all of the adjuvants
> > > that are used in these vaccines.
>
> > Why? There is no evidence suggesting that the adjuvants are causing
> > any problems.
>
> > > The key problem is that the drug industry found that vaccinations
> > > are very profitable and so they will work hard to find reasons to
> > > increase the number of vaccinations our babies must endure
>
> > I see, so you are implicitly blaming the "drug industry" for creating
> > more diseases?
>
> > that
>
> > > contain methyl mercury,
>
> > OOPS! Now that is a either a typo, or a demonstration that you do not
> > have a clue as to what you are bleating and braying about.
>
> > > aluminum and other dangerous chemicals. The
> > > increase in vaccinations will multiply the effect of any dangerous
> > > contents in them.
>
> > Do you have any proof, other than your personal idle speculation, of
> > that premise?
>
> For those who have an insame need to argue,

Cousin Jan, I am so sorry that you have that need. I suggest
counseling with Pr. Ortiz.

and keep asking the same
> dumb question.

It is not a dumb question. Just ask Dr. Miller. You said he is a good
doctor and you would listen to him.



From: Mark Probert on
On Mar 6, 10:59 pm, COUSIN Jan Drew-Probert <jdrew63...(a)aol.com>
wrote:
> On Mar 6, 3:37 pm, mainframetech <mainframet...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Mar 3, 8:49 am, Mark Probert <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Mar 3, 8:33 am, mainframetech <mainframet...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Mar 2, 5:01 pm, dr_jeff <u...(a)msu.edu> wrote:
>
> > > > > john wrote:
>
> > > > > > Joan Cranmer's Fateful Decisions and the Suppression of Autism Science
> > > > > >
> > > > > > By Mark Blaxill
> > > > > >
> > > > > > March 02, 2010
> > > > > >http://www.ageofautism.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On February 12, 2010 the journalNeurotoxicology made a quiet change
> > > > > on its
> > > > > > web-site to an "in-press" article that had previously been available
> > > > > as an
> > > > > > "epub ahead of print." There was no press release or public
> > > > > announcement,
> > > > > > simply an entry change. The entry for the article, "Delayed
> > > > > acquisition of
> > > > > > neonatal reflexes in newborn primates receiving a thimerosal-containing
> > > > > > Hepatitis B vaccine: Influence of gestational age and birth weight", was
> > > > > > first modified to read "Withdrawn" and has since been removed altogether
> > > > > > from the Neurotoxicology web-site. The only remaining official trace
> > > > > of the
> > > > > > paper is now the following listing on the National Library of Medicine's
> > > > > > "PubMed" site.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Neurotoxicology. 2009 Oct 2. [Epub ahead of print]
> > > > > >
> > > > > > WITHDRAWN: Delayed acquisition of neonatal reflexes in newborn
> > > > > primates
> > > > > > receiving a thimerosal-containing Hepatitis B vaccine: Influence of
> > > > > > gestational age and birth weight.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hewitson L, Houser LA, Stott C, Sackett G, Tomko JL, Atwood D, Blue L,
> > > > > > White ER, Wakefield AJ.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology, University of Pittsburgh
> > > > > School
> > > > > > of Medicine, Pittsburgh, PA 15213, United States; Thoughtful House
> > > > > Center
> > > > > > for Children, Austin, TX 78746, United States.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This article has been withdrawn at the request of the editor. The
> > > > > > Publisher apologizes for any inconvenience this may cause.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How can a scientific study simply vanish?
>
> > > > > Crappy science is crappy science.
>
> > > > > Just like Wakefield's crappy science.
>
> > > > > Jeff
>
> > > > > <...>
>
> > > > The science of the original article can be judged by anyone that
> > > > wants to look at it. The article in its original form is located at:
>
> > > >http://fourteenstudies.org/pdf/primates_hep_b.pdf
>
> > > Holy smoke! Pure bullshit. For clarification:
>
> > >http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2009/04/generation_rescue_and_fourt....
>
> > > > The discussion and conclusions at the end point out the need to
> > > > look further into the problem of vaccines containing Thimerosal.
>
> > > With a child being able to have all childhood vaccines without
> > > Thimerosal, why waste money on that?
>
> > > My
>
> > > > own addition is that they ought to look also at all of the adjuvants
> > > > that are used in these vaccines.
>
> > > Why? There is no evidence suggesting that the adjuvants are causing
> > > any problems.
>
> > > > The key problem is that the drug industry found that vaccinations
> > > > are very profitable and so they will work hard to find reasons to
> > > > increase the number of vaccinations our babies must endure
>
> > > I see, so you are implicitly blaming the "drug industry" for creating
> > > more diseases?
>
> > > that
>
> > > > contain methyl mercury,
>
> > > OOPS! Now that is a either a typo, or a demonstration that you do not
> > > have a clue as to what you are bleating and braying about.
>
> > > > aluminum and other dangerous chemicals. The
> > > > increase in vaccinations will multiply the effect of any dangerous
> > > > contents in them.
>
> > > Do you have any proof, other than your personal idle speculation, of
> > > that premise?
>
> > > > Chris- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > - Show quoted text- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > LOL!
>
> > It's amazing how easy it is to draw out the usual suspects... :)
> > The surefire way to do it is to suggest that there is something bad
> > about the drug industry. I can picture the lovefest now after each
> > defense of the dirty drug boyz. Lovin' and huggin' each other near to
> > death... :)
>
> > Does anyone wonder why they work so hard to disrupt this forum? I
> > suggest it's because people coming here might find working
> > alternatives to the costly and deathdealing drugs that are out there.
>
> > Chris
>
> Mark S Probert has an insane need to argue.

No, Cousin Jan, I do not have that. It is YOU who jumps into every
thread where I post to make these insane arguments.

From: Jan Drew on
On Mar 6, 10:59�pm, Jan Drew <jdrew63...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> On Mar 6, 3:37 pm, mainframetech <mainframet...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Mar 3, 8:49 am, Mark Probert <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Mar 3, 8:33 am, mainframetech <mainframet...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Mar 2, 5:01 pm, dr_jeff <u...(a)msu.edu> wrote:
>
> > > > > john wrote:
>
> > > > > > Joan Cranmer's Fateful Decisions and the Suppression of Autism Science
> > > > > >
> > > > > > By Mark Blaxill
> > > > > >
> > > > > > March 02, 2010
> > > > > >http://www.ageofautism.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On February 12, 2010 the journalNeurotoxicology made a quiet change
> > > > > on its
> > > > > > web-site to an "in-press" article that had previously been available
> > > > > as an
> > > > > > "epub ahead of print." There was no press release or public
> > > > > announcement,
> > > > > > simply an entry change. The entry for the article, "Delayed
> > > > > acquisition of
> > > > > > neonatal reflexes in newborn primates receiving a thimerosal-containing
> > > > > > Hepatitis B vaccine: Influence of gestational age and birth weight", was
> > > > > > first modified to read "Withdrawn" and has since been removed altogether
> > > > > > from the Neurotoxicology web-site. The only remaining official trace
> > > > > of the
> > > > > > paper is now the following listing on the National Library of Medicine's
> > > > > > "PubMed" site.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Neurotoxicology. 2009 Oct 2. [Epub ahead of print]
> > > > > >
> > > > > > WITHDRAWN: Delayed acquisition of neonatal reflexes in newborn
> > > > > primates
> > > > > > receiving a thimerosal-containing Hepatitis B vaccine: Influence of
> > > > > > gestational age and birth weight.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hewitson L, Houser LA, Stott C, Sackett G, Tomko JL, Atwood D, Blue L,
> > > > > > White ER, Wakefield AJ.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology, University of Pittsburgh
> > > > > School
> > > > > > of Medicine, Pittsburgh, PA 15213, United States; Thoughtful House
> > > > > Center
> > > > > > for Children, Austin, TX 78746, United States.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This article has been withdrawn at the request of the editor. The
> > > > > > Publisher apologizes for any inconvenience this may cause.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How can a scientific study simply vanish?
>
> > > > > Crappy science is crappy science.
>
> > > > > Just like Wakefield's crappy science.
>
> > > > > Jeff
>
> > > > > <...>
>
> > > > The science of the original article can be judged by anyone that
> > > > wants to look at it. The article in its original form is located at:
>
> > > >http://fourteenstudies.org/pdf/primates_hep_b.pdf
>
> > > Holy smoke! Pure bullshit. For clarification:
>
> > >http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2009/04/generation_rescue_and_fourt....
>
> > > > The discussion and conclusions at the end point out the need to
> > > > look further into the problem of vaccines containing Thimerosal.
>
> > > With a child being able to have all childhood vaccines without
> > > Thimerosal, why waste money on that?
>
> > > My
>
> > > > own addition is that they ought to look also at all of the adjuvants
> > > > that are used in these vaccines.
>
> > > Why? There is no evidence suggesting that the adjuvants are causing
> > > any problems.
>
> > > > The key problem is that the drug industry found that vaccinations
> > > > are very profitable and so they will work hard to find reasons to
> > > > increase the number of vaccinations our babies must endure
>
> > > I see, so you are implicitly blaming the "drug industry" for creating
> > > more diseases?
>
> > > that
>
> > > > contain methyl mercury,
>
> > > OOPS! Now that is a either a typo, or a demonstration that you do not
> > > have a clue as to what you are bleating and braying about.
>
> > > > aluminum and other dangerous chemicals. The
> > > > increase in vaccinations will multiply the effect of any dangerous
> > > > contents in them.
>
> > > Do you have any proof, other than your personal idle speculation, of
> > > that premise?
>
> > > > Chris- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > - Show quoted text- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > LOL!
>
> > It's amazing how easy it is to draw out the usual suspects... :)
> > The surefire way to do it is to suggest that there is something bad
> > about the drug industry. I can picture the lovefest now after each
> > defense of the dirty drug boyz. Lovin' and huggin' each other near to
> > death... :)
>
> > Does anyone wonder why they work so hard to disrupt this forum? I
> > suggest it's because people coming here might find working
> > alternatives to the costly and deathdealing drugs that are out there.
>
> > Chris
>
> Mark S Probert has an insane need to argue.
> Because he was disbarred.
>
> He also drugged his kids with Ritalin. �Then, posted their pictures on
> the net.
> You can see �the effects of being drugged there.
>
> From: "Mark Probert" <mark_probertREMOVEGARB...(a)hotmail.com>
> Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 15:21:41 -0400
> Local: Mon, Aug 12 2002 2:21 pm
> Subject: Re: Part Time Job, Long Island.........
>
> 2002
>
> Their camp has a webiste:www.campanchor.org. My kids pic is there.
>
> Long Island, NY
>
> http://www.campanchor.org/images/jrcamp7.jpg
>
> http://www.campanchor.org/images/jrcamp13.jpg- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

From: Mark Probert-Drew on
On Mar 6, 10:46 pm, COUSIN Jan Drew-Probert <jdrew63...(a)aol.com>
wrote:



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> On Mar 3, 8:49 am, Mark Probert <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> > On Mar 3, 8:33 am, mainframetech <mainframet...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:


> > > On Mar 2, 5:01 pm, dr_jeff <u...(a)msu.edu> wrote:


> > > > john wrote:


> > > > > Joan Cranmer's Fateful Decisions and the Suppression of Autism Science


> > > > > By Mark Blaxill


> > > > > March 02, 2010
> > > > >http://www.ageofautism.com


> > > > > On February 12, 2010 the journalNeurotoxicology made a quiet change
> > > > on its
> > > > > web-site to an "in-press" article that had previously been available
> > > > as an
> > > > > "epub ahead of print." There was no press release or public
> > > > announcement,
> > > > > simply an entry change. The entry for the article, "Delayed
> > > > acquisition of
> > > > > neonatal reflexes in newborn primates receiving a thimerosal-containing
> > > > > Hepatitis B vaccine: Influence of gestational age and birth weight", was
> > > > > first modified to read "Withdrawn" and has since been removed altogether
> > > > > from the Neurotoxicology web-site. The only remaining official trace
> > > > of the
> > > > > paper is now the following listing on the National Library of Medicine's
> > > > > "PubMed" site.


> > > > > Neurotoxicology. 2009 Oct 2. [Epub ahead of print]


> > > > > WITHDRAWN: Delayed acquisition of neonatal reflexes in newborn
> > > > primates
> > > > > receiving a thimerosal-containing Hepatitis B vaccine: Influence of
> > > > > gestational age and birth weight.


> > > > > Hewitson L, Houser LA, Stott C, Sackett G, Tomko JL, Atwood D, Blue L,
> > > > > White ER, Wakefield AJ.


> > > > > Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology, University of Pittsburgh
> > > > School
> > > > > of Medicine, Pittsburgh, PA 15213, United States; Thoughtful House
> > > > Center
> > > > > for Children, Austin, TX 78746, United States.


> > > > > This article has been withdrawn at the request of the editor. The
> > > > > Publisher apologizes for any inconvenience this may cause.


> > > > > How can a scientific study simply vanish?


> > > > Crappy science is crappy science.


> > > > Just like Wakefield's crappy science.


> > > > Jeff


> > > > <...>


> > > The science of the original article can be judged by anyone that
> > > wants to look at it. The article in its original form is located at:


> > >http://fourteenstudies.org/pdf/primates_hep_b.pdf


> > Holy smoke! Pure bullshit. For clarification:


> >http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2009/04/generation_rescue_and_fourt...


> > > The discussion and conclusions at the end point out the need to
> > > look further into the problem of vaccines containing Thimerosal.


> > With a child being able to have all childhood vaccines without
> > Thimerosal, why waste money on that?


> > My


> > > own addition is that they ought to look also at all of the adjuvants
> > > that are used in these vaccines.


> > Why? There is no evidence suggesting that the adjuvants are causing
> > any problems.


> > > The key problem is that the drug industry found that vaccinations
> > > are very profitable and so they will work hard to find reasons to
> > > increase the number of vaccinations our babies must endure


> > I see, so you are implicitly blaming the "drug industry" for creating
> > more diseases?


> > that


> > > contain methyl mercury,


> > OOPS! Now that is a either a typo, or a demonstration that you do not
> > have a clue as to what you are bleating and braying about.


> > > aluminum and other dangerous chemicals. The
> > > increase in vaccinations will multiply the effect of any dangerous
> > > contents in them.


> > Do you have any proof, other than your personal idle speculation, of
> > that premise?


> For those who have an insame need to argue,



Cousin Jan, I am so sorry that you have that need. I suggest
counseling with Pr. Ortiz.

and keep asking the same



> dumb question.


It is not a dumb question. Just ask Dr. Miller. You said he is a good
doctor and you would listen to him.
From: Jan Drew on
On Mar 6, 11:28�pm, Mark Probert <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 6, 10:59�pm, COUSIN Jan Drew-Probert <jdrew63...(a)aol.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Mar 6, 3:37 pm, mainframetech <mainframet...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Mar 3, 8:49 am, Mark Probert <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Mar 3, 8:33 am, mainframetech <mainframet...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Mar 2, 5:01 pm, dr_jeff <u...(a)msu.edu> wrote:
>
> > > > > > john wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Joan Cranmer's Fateful Decisions and the Suppression of Autism Science
>
> > > > > > > By Mark Blaxill
>
> > > > > > > March 02, 2010
> > > > > > >http://www.ageofautism.com
>
> > > > > > > On February 12, 2010 the journalNeurotoxicology made a quiet change
> > > > > > on its
> > > > > > > web-site to an "in-press" article that had previously been available
> > > > > > as an
> > > > > > > "epub ahead of print." There was no press release or public
> > > > > > announcement,
> > > > > > > simply an entry change. The entry for the article, "Delayed
> > > > > > acquisition of
> > > > > > > neonatal reflexes in newborn primates receiving a thimerosal-containing
> > > > > > > Hepatitis B vaccine: Influence of gestational age and birth weight", was
> > > > > > > first modified to read "Withdrawn" and has since been removed altogether
> > > > > > > from the Neurotoxicology web-site. The only remaining official trace
> > > > > > of the
> > > > > > > paper is now the following listing on the National Library of Medicine's
> > > > > > > "PubMed" site.
>
> > > > > > > Neurotoxicology. 2009 Oct 2. [Epub ahead of print]
>
> > > > > > > WITHDRAWN: Delayed acquisition of neonatal reflexes in newborn
> > > > > > primates
> > > > > > > receiving a thimerosal-containing Hepatitis B vaccine: Influence of
> > > > > > > gestational age and birth weight.
>
> > > > > > > Hewitson L, Houser LA, Stott C, Sackett G, Tomko JL, Atwood D, Blue L,
> > > > > > > White ER, Wakefield AJ.
>
> > > > > > > Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology, University of Pittsburgh
> > > > > > School
> > > > > > > of Medicine, Pittsburgh, PA 15213, United States; Thoughtful House
> > > > > > Center
> > > > > > > for Children, Austin, TX 78746, United States.
>
> > > > > > > This article has been withdrawn at the request of the editor. The
> > > > > > > Publisher apologizes for any inconvenience this may cause.
>
> > > > > > > How can a scientific study simply vanish?
>
> > > > > > Crappy science is crappy science.
>
> > > > > > Just like Wakefield's crappy science.
>
> > > > > > Jeff
>
> > > > > > <...>
>
> > > > > The science of the original article can be judged by anyone that
> > > > > wants to look at it. The article in its original form is located at:
>
> > > > >http://fourteenstudies.org/pdf/primates_hep_b.pdf
>
> > > > Holy smoke! Pure bullshit. For clarification:
>
> > > >http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2009/04/generation_rescue_and_fourt...
>
> > > > > The discussion and conclusions at the end point out the need to
> > > > > look further into the problem of vaccines containing Thimerosal.
>
> > > > With a child being able to have all childhood vaccines without
> > > > Thimerosal, why waste money on that?
>
> > > > My
>
> > > > > own addition is that they ought to look also at all of the adjuvants
> > > > > that are used in these vaccines.
>
> > > > Why? There is no evidence suggesting that the adjuvants are causing
> > > > any problems.
>
> > > > > The key problem is that the drug industry found that vaccinations
> > > > > are very profitable and so they will work hard to find reasons to
> > > > > increase the number of vaccinations our babies must endure
>
> > > > I see, so you are implicitly blaming the "drug industry" for creating
> > > > more diseases?
>
> > > > that
>
> > > > > contain methyl mercury,
>
> > > > OOPS! Now that is a either a typo, or a demonstration that you do not
> > > > have a clue as to what you are bleating and braying about.
>
> > > > > aluminum and other dangerous chemicals. The
> > > > > increase in vaccinations will multiply the effect of any dangerous
> > > > > contents in them.
>
> > > > Do you have any proof, other than your personal idle speculation, of
> > > > that premise?
>
> > > > > Chris- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > > - Show quoted text- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > LOL!
>
> > > It's amazing how easy it is to draw out the usual suspects... :)
> > > The surefire way to do it is to suggest that there is something bad
> > > about the drug industry. I can picture the lovefest now after each
> > > defense of the dirty drug boyz. Lovin' and huggin' each other near to
> > > death... :)
>
> > > Does anyone wonder why they work so hard to disrupt this forum? I
> > > suggest it's because people coming here might find working
> > > alternatives to the costly and deathdealing drugs that are out there.
>
> > > Chris
>
> > Mark S Probert has an insane need to argue.
>
> No, Jan, I do not have that. It is YOU who jumps into every
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The proof is you many postings everyday and most of the night.
You would do well to have a neighbor who had a very serious car wreck,
and take care of hin/her everyday. Like me.