From: Mark Probert-Drew on
On Mar 3, 5:39 pm, dr_jeff <u...(a)msu.edu> wrote:
> mainframetech wrote:
> > On Mar 2, 5:01 pm, dr_jeff <u...(a)msu.edu> wrote:
> >> john wrote:
>
> >>  > Joan Cranmer's Fateful Decisions and the Suppression of Autism Science
>
> >>  > By Mark Blaxill
>
> >>  > March 02, 2010
> >>  >http://www.ageofautism.com
>
> >>  > On February 12, 2010 the journalNeurotoxicology made a quiet change
> >> on its
> >>  > web-site to an "in-press" article that had previously been available
> >> as an
> >>  > "epub ahead of print."  There was no press release or public
> >> announcement,
> >>  > simply an entry change. The entry for the article, "Delayed
> >> acquisition of
> >>  > neonatal reflexes in newborn primates receiving a thimerosal-containing
> >>  > Hepatitis B vaccine: Influence of gestational age and birth weight", was
> >>  > first modified to read "Withdrawn" and has since been removed altogether
> >>  > from the Neurotoxicology web-site. The only remaining official trace
> >> of the
> >>  > paper is now the following listing on the National Library of Medicine's
> >>  > "PubMed" site.
>
> >>  >   Neurotoxicology. 2009 Oct 2. [Epub ahead of print]
>
> >>  >   WITHDRAWN: Delayed acquisition of neonatal reflexes in newborn
> >> primates
> >>  > receiving a thimerosal-containing Hepatitis B vaccine: Influence of
> >>  > gestational age and birth weight.
>
> >>  >   Hewitson L, Houser LA, Stott C, Sackett G, Tomko JL, Atwood D, Blue L,
> >>  > White ER, Wakefield AJ.
>
> >>  >   Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology, University of Pittsburgh
> >> School
> >>  > of Medicine, Pittsburgh, PA 15213, United States; Thoughtful House
> >> Center
> >>  > for Children, Austin, TX 78746, United States.
>
> >>  >   This article has been withdrawn at the request of the editor. The
> >>  > Publisher apologizes for any inconvenience this may cause.
>
> >>  > How can a scientific study simply vanish?
>
> >> Crappy science is crappy science.
>
> >> Just like Wakefield's crappy science.
>
> >> Jeff
>
> >> <...>
>
> >    The science of the original article can be judged by anyone that
> > wants to look at it.  The article in its original form is located at:
>
> >http://fourteenstudies.org/pdf/primates_hep_b.pdf
>
> >    The discussion and conclusions at the end point out the need to
> > look further into the problem of vaccines containing Thimerosal.  My
> > own addition is that they ought to look also at all of the adjuvants
> > that are used in these vaccines.
>
> >     The key problem is that the drug industry found that vaccinations
> > are very profitable and so they will work hard to find reasons to
> > increase the number of vaccinations our babies must endure that
> > contain methyl mercury, aluminum and other dangerous chemicals.
>
> No, they work to ensure that they sell a product. They don't have any
> vaccines with methylmercury. The other chemicals which you call
> "dangerous" make the vaccines work better at minimal risk.
>
> >  The
> > increase in vaccinations will multiply the effect of any dangerous
> > contents in them.
>
> The risk is still very close to zero. And, the benefits increase too.

The anti-vaccinationistas just love tospew their bilge. Do they have
any proof that there is an accumulation of anything from the current
vaccines?


From: Raving on
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpBkc2jK-6w
From: mainframetech on
On Mar 3, 8:49 am, Mark Probert <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 3, 8:33 am, mainframetech <mainframet...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Mar 2, 5:01 pm, dr_jeff <u...(a)msu.edu> wrote:
>
> > > john wrote:
>
> > >  > Joan Cranmer's Fateful Decisions and the Suppression of Autism Science
> > >  >
> > >  > By Mark Blaxill
> > >  >
> > >  > March 02, 2010
> > >  >http://www.ageofautism.com
> > >  >
> > >  > On February 12, 2010 the journalNeurotoxicology made a quiet change
> > > on its
> > >  > web-site to an "in-press" article that had previously been available
> > > as an
> > >  > "epub ahead of print."  There was no press release or public
> > > announcement,
> > >  > simply an entry change. The entry for the article, "Delayed
> > > acquisition of
> > >  > neonatal reflexes in newborn primates receiving a thimerosal-containing
> > >  > Hepatitis B vaccine: Influence of gestational age and birth weight", was
> > >  > first modified to read "Withdrawn" and has since been removed altogether
> > >  > from the Neurotoxicology web-site. The only remaining official trace
> > > of the
> > >  > paper is now the following listing on the National Library of Medicine's
> > >  > "PubMed" site.
> > >  >
> > >  >   Neurotoxicology. 2009 Oct 2. [Epub ahead of print]
> > >  >
> > >  >   WITHDRAWN: Delayed acquisition of neonatal reflexes in newborn
> > > primates
> > >  > receiving a thimerosal-containing Hepatitis B vaccine: Influence of
> > >  > gestational age and birth weight.
> > >  >
> > >  >   Hewitson L, Houser LA, Stott C, Sackett G, Tomko JL, Atwood D, Blue L,
> > >  > White ER, Wakefield AJ.
> > >  >
> > >  >   Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology, University of Pittsburgh
> > > School
> > >  > of Medicine, Pittsburgh, PA 15213, United States; Thoughtful House
> > > Center
> > >  > for Children, Austin, TX 78746, United States.
> > >  >
> > >  >   This article has been withdrawn at the request of the editor.. The
> > >  > Publisher apologizes for any inconvenience this may cause.
> > >  >
> > >  > How can a scientific study simply vanish?
>
> > > Crappy science is crappy science.
>
> > > Just like Wakefield's crappy science.
>
> > > Jeff
>
> > > <...>
>
> >    The science of the original article can be judged by anyone that
> > wants to look at it.  The article in its original form is located at:
>
> >http://fourteenstudies.org/pdf/primates_hep_b.pdf
>
> Holy smoke! Pure bullshit. For clarification:
>
> http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2009/04/generation_rescue_and_fourt...
>
> >    The discussion and conclusions at the end point out the need to
> > look further into the problem of vaccines containing Thimerosal.  
>
> With a child being able to have all childhood vaccines without
> Thimerosal, why waste money on that?
>
> My
>
> > own addition is that they ought to look also at all of the adjuvants
> > that are used in these vaccines.
>
> Why? There is no evidence suggesting that the adjuvants are causing
> any problems.
>
>
>
> >     The key problem is that the drug industry found that vaccinations
> > are very profitable and so they will work hard to find reasons to
> > increase the number of vaccinations our babies must endure
>
> I see, so you are implicitly blaming the "drug industry" for creating
> more diseases?
>
> that
>
> > contain methyl mercury,
>
> OOPS! Now that is a either a typo, or a demonstration that you do not
> have a clue as to what you are bleating and braying about.
>
> > aluminum and other dangerous chemicals.  The
> > increase in vaccinations will multiply the effect of any dangerous
> > contents in them.
>
> Do you have any proof, other than your personal idle speculation, of
> that premise?
>
>
>
>
>
> > Chris- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

LOL!

It's amazing how easy it is to draw out the usual suspects... :)
The surefire way to do it is to suggest that there is something bad
about the drug industry. I can picture the lovefest now after each
defense of the dirty drug boyz. Lovin' and huggin' each other near to
death... :)

Does anyone wonder why they work so hard to disrupt this forum? I
suggest it's because people coming here might find working
alternatives to the costly and deathdealing drugs that are out there.

Chris
From: Mark Probert-Drew on
On Mar 6, 3:37 pm, mainframetech <mainframet...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Mar 3, 8:49 am, Mark Probert <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Mar 3, 8:33 am, mainframetech <mainframet...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Mar 2, 5:01 pm, dr_jeff <u...(a)msu.edu> wrote:
>
> > > > john wrote:
>
> > > >  > Joan Cranmer's Fateful Decisions and the Suppression of Autism Science
> > > >  >
> > > >  > By Mark Blaxill
> > > >  >
> > > >  > March 02, 2010
> > > >  >http://www.ageofautism.com
> > > >  >
> > > >  > On February 12, 2010 the journalNeurotoxicology made a quiet change
> > > > on its
> > > >  > web-site to an "in-press" article that had previously been available
> > > > as an
> > > >  > "epub ahead of print."  There was no press release or public
> > > > announcement,
> > > >  > simply an entry change. The entry for the article, "Delayed
> > > > acquisition of
> > > >  > neonatal reflexes in newborn primates receiving a thimerosal-containing
> > > >  > Hepatitis B vaccine: Influence of gestational age and birth weight", was
> > > >  > first modified to read "Withdrawn" and has since been removed altogether
> > > >  > from the Neurotoxicology web-site. The only remaining official trace
> > > > of the
> > > >  > paper is now the following listing on the National Library of Medicine's
> > > >  > "PubMed" site.
> > > >  >
> > > >  >   Neurotoxicology. 2009 Oct 2. [Epub ahead of print]
> > > >  >
> > > >  >   WITHDRAWN: Delayed acquisition of neonatal reflexes in newborn
> > > > primates
> > > >  > receiving a thimerosal-containing Hepatitis B vaccine: Influence of
> > > >  > gestational age and birth weight.
> > > >  >
> > > >  >   Hewitson L, Houser LA, Stott C, Sackett G, Tomko JL, Atwood D, Blue L,
> > > >  > White ER, Wakefield AJ.
> > > >  >
> > > >  >   Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology, University of Pittsburgh
> > > > School
> > > >  > of Medicine, Pittsburgh, PA 15213, United States; Thoughtful House
> > > > Center
> > > >  > for Children, Austin, TX 78746, United States.
> > > >  >
> > > >  >   This article has been withdrawn at the request of the editor. The
> > > >  > Publisher apologizes for any inconvenience this may cause.
> > > >  >
> > > >  > How can a scientific study simply vanish?
>
> > > > Crappy science is crappy science.
>
> > > > Just like Wakefield's crappy science.
>
> > > > Jeff
>
> > > > <...>
>
> > >    The science of the original article can be judged by anyone that
> > > wants to look at it.  The article in its original form is located at:
>
> > >http://fourteenstudies.org/pdf/primates_hep_b.pdf
>
> > Holy smoke! Pure bullshit. For clarification:
>
> >http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2009/04/generation_rescue_and_fourt...
>
> > >    The discussion and conclusions at the end point out the need to
> > > look further into the problem of vaccines containing Thimerosal.  
>
> > With a child being able to have all childhood vaccines without
> > Thimerosal, why waste money on that?
>
> > My
>
> > > own addition is that they ought to look also at all of the adjuvants
> > > that are used in these vaccines.
>
> > Why? There is no evidence suggesting that the adjuvants are causing
> > any problems.
>
> > >     The key problem is that the drug industry found that vaccinations
> > > are very profitable and so they will work hard to find reasons to
> > > increase the number of vaccinations our babies must endure
>
> > I see, so you are implicitly blaming the "drug industry" for creating
> > more diseases?
>
> > that
>
> > > contain methyl mercury,
>
> > OOPS! Now that is a either a typo, or a demonstration that you do not
> > have a clue as to what you are bleating and braying about.
>
> > > aluminum and other dangerous chemicals.  The
> > > increase in vaccinations will multiply the effect of any dangerous
> > > contents in them.
>
> > Do you have any proof, other than your personal idle speculation, of
> > that premise?
>
> LOL!
>
>    It's amazing how easy it is to draw out the usual suspects... :)

Exactly. I ask for proof, and you pop up.

> The surefire way to do it is to suggest that there is something bad
> about the drug industry.  I can picture the lovefest now after each
> defense of the dirty drug boyz.  Lovin' and huggin' each other near to
> death... :)

That is not proof.

>   Does anyone wonder why they work so hard to disrupt this forum?  

I am sorry, but question the anti-vaccination dogma is not disruption.
I know that this is an idea that is foreign to the anti-
vaccinationist, as they exclude legitimate journalists who ask
questions from their love-ins.

NOTE: I can prove that on at least two occasions.

I
> suggest it's because people coming here might find working
> alternatives to the costly and deathdealing drugs that are out there.

You can post your idle speculation to yours "hearts" content. I do
this because I know that vaccines save lives. As for death dealing,
anti-vacs are pro-death and disability.

> Chris-

From: Jan Drew on
On Mar 6, 3:37�pm, mainframetech <mainframet...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Mar 3, 8:49�am, Mark Probert <mark.prob...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Mar 3, 8:33�am, mainframetech <mainframet...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Mar 2, 5:01�pm, dr_jeff <u...(a)msu.edu> wrote:
>
> > > > john wrote:
>
> > > > �> Joan Cranmer's Fateful Decisions and the Suppression of Autism Science
> > > > �>
> > > > �> By Mark Blaxill
> > > > �>
> > > > �> March 02, 2010
> > > > �>http://www.ageofautism.com
> > > > �>
> > > > �> On February 12, 2010 the journalNeurotoxicology made a quiet change
> > > > on its
> > > > �> web-site to an "in-press" article that had previously been available
> > > > as an
> > > > �> "epub ahead of print." �There was no press release or public
> > > > announcement,
> > > > �> simply an entry change. The entry for the article, "Delayed
> > > > acquisition of
> > > > �> neonatal reflexes in newborn primates receiving a thimerosal-containing
> > > > �> Hepatitis B vaccine: Influence of gestational age and birth weight", was
> > > > �> first modified to read "Withdrawn" and has since been removed altogether
> > > > �> from the Neurotoxicology web-site. The only remaining official trace
> > > > of the
> > > > �> paper is now the following listing on the National Library of Medicine's
> > > > �> "PubMed" site.
> > > > �>
> > > > �> � Neurotoxicology. 2009 Oct 2. [Epub ahead of print]
> > > > �>
> > > > �> � WITHDRAWN: Delayed acquisition of neonatal reflexes in newborn
> > > > primates
> > > > �> receiving a thimerosal-containing Hepatitis B vaccine: Influence of
> > > > �> gestational age and birth weight.
> > > > �>
> > > > �> � Hewitson L, Houser LA, Stott C, Sackett G, Tomko JL, Atwood D, Blue L,
> > > > �> White ER, Wakefield AJ.
> > > > �>
> > > > �> � Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology, University of Pittsburgh
> > > > School
> > > > �> of Medicine, Pittsburgh, PA 15213, United States; Thoughtful House
> > > > Center
> > > > �> for Children, Austin, TX 78746, United States.
> > > > �>
> > > > �> � This article has been withdrawn at the request of the editor. The
> > > > �> Publisher apologizes for any inconvenience this may cause.
> > > > �>
> > > > �> How can a scientific study simply vanish?
>
> > > > Crappy science is crappy science.
>
> > > > Just like Wakefield's crappy science.
>
> > > > Jeff
>
> > > > <...>
>
> > > � �The science of the original article can be judged by anyone that
> > > wants to look at it. �The article in its original form is located at:
>
> > >http://fourteenstudies.org/pdf/primates_hep_b.pdf
>
> > Holy smoke! Pure bullshit. For clarification:
>
> >http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2009/04/generation_rescue_and_fourt...
>
> > > � �The discussion and conclusions at the end point out the need to
> > > look further into the problem of vaccines containing Thimerosal. �
>
> > With a child being able to have all childhood vaccines without
> > Thimerosal, why waste money on that?
>
> > My
>
> > > own addition is that they ought to look also at all of the adjuvants
> > > that are used in these vaccines.
>
> > Why? There is no evidence suggesting that the adjuvants are causing
> > any problems.
>
> > > � � The key problem is that the drug industry found that vaccinations
> > > are very profitable and so they will work hard to find reasons to
> > > increase the number of vaccinations our babies must endure
>
> > I see, so you are implicitly blaming the "drug industry" for creating
> > more diseases?
>
> > that
>
> > > contain methyl mercury,
>
> > OOPS! Now that is a either a typo, or a demonstration that you do not
> > have a clue as to what you are bleating and braying about.
>
> > > aluminum and other dangerous chemicals. �The
> > > increase in vaccinations will multiply the effect of any dangerous
> > > contents in them.
>
> > Do you have any proof, other than your personal idle speculation, of
> > that premise?
>
> > > Chris- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> LOL!
>
> � �It's amazing how easy it is to draw out the usual suspects... :)
> The surefire way to do it is to suggest that there is something bad
> about the drug industry. �I can picture the lovefest now after each
> defense of the dirty drug boyz. �Lovin' and huggin' each other near to
> death... :)
>
> � Does anyone wonder why they work so hard to disrupt this forum? �I
> suggest it's because people coming here might find working
> alternatives to the costly and deathdealing drugs that are out there.
>
> Chris

Mark S Probert has an insane need to argue.
Because he was disbarred.

He also drugged his kids with Ritalin. Then, posted their pictures on
the net.
You can see the effects of being drugged there.

From: "Mark Probert" <mark_probertREMOVEGARB...(a)hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 15:21:41 -0400
Local: Mon, Aug 12 2002 2:21 pm
Subject: Re: Part Time Job, Long Island.........

2002

Their camp has a webiste: www.campanchor.org. My kids pic is there.

Long Island, NY


http://www.campanchor.org/images/jrcamp7.jpg

http://www.campanchor.org/images/jrcamp13.jpg