From: Marshall Price on
BoneLady wrote:
> On Apr 23, 6:12 pm, Ron Peterson <r...(a)shell.core.com> wrote:
>> On Apr 23, 10:51 am, BoneLady <srsuppor...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Are you interested in an alternative to prescription drugs for
>>> osteoporosis? Strontium builds stronger bones than drugs like Fosamax,
>>> Actonel, or Boniva but without the dangerous side effects. For more
>>> information about strontium for treating osteoporosis, please visit
>>> Strontium For Bones athttp://strontiumforbones.blogspot.com/. My
>>> blog offers visitors discussions, information, and links which will be
>>> updated periodically.
>> I don't believe that strontium is considered a nutrient and that makes
>> it difficult to recommend.
>>
>> And since strontium is more dense to xrays, it can cause misleading
>> BMD tests.
>>
>> The tests have only been done with strontium renelate which makes it
>> hard to conclude that strontium citrate would have the same action.
>>
>> --
>> Ron
>
> Strontium is considered to be an essential nutrient like calcium and
> is available in small amounts from food. It is believed that the
> strontium-calcium bone matrix is far stronger than calcium matrix
> alone.

"Essential" usually has a special meaning in nutrition. Calcium is a
"major mineral," while strontium is rarely mentioned in nutrition
textbooks, and is usually treated as a "trace element" or micronutrient.

You'll find some interesting information about it if you use Google
to search for:

strontium -kscripts site:orthomolecular.org

Their emphasis is on schizophrenia, but their investigations into
micronutrients are coming up with interesting findings.

(Incidentally, the worldwide contamination of soils with strontium-90
during the era of atom bomb testing suggests another reason for
considering the addition strontium to soils.)

--
Marshall Price of Miami
Known to Yahoo as d021317c
From: Marshall Price on
Bruce in Bangkok wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 08:51:51 -0700 (PDT), BoneLady
> <srsupporter(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Are you interested in an alternative to prescription drugs for
>> osteoporosis? Strontium builds stronger bones than drugs like Fosamax,
>> Actonel, or Boniva but without the dangerous side effects. For more
>> information about strontium for treating osteoporosis, please visit
>> Strontium For Bones at http://strontiumforbones.blogspot.com/. My
>> blog offers visitors discussions, information, and links which will be
>> updated periodically.
>
>
> As I am presently taking strontium ranelate under a doctor's
> supervision I note a number of differences in what is stated on the
> Blog spot and what my doctor discussed with me.
>
> Calcium - The blog specifically mentions taking 1200 MG of calcium
> daily. My doctor advises me that if serum calcium levels are in the
> high normal range then the body cannot process additional calcium.
>
> Vitamin D3 - The blog specifically mentions taking D3 daily. My doctor
> advises that providing D3 is being normally manufactured by the body
> there is no requirement for additional supplements
>
> Magnesium - The blog specifically mentions taking Magnesium daily. My
> doctor advises that is serum levels of magnesium are normal no
> additional magnesium is required.
>
> Finally the blog spot loads erratically so I tried
> http://strontiumforbones.com/ which appears to be much the same
> information for strontium except that it appears to be an
> advertizement for the sale of strontium capsules by an organization
> named "Relentless Improvement", "Premium-Quality Nutriceuticals"
>
>
> Bruce-in-Bangkok
> (correct email address for reply)

I'm surprised your doctor is relying on serum levels for assessing
calcium and magnesium status. That's no good. Besides, his lab may be
using inexpensive equipment that doesn't give an accurate assessment of
ionic calcium; it's tricky. See the Merck Manual article about
hypercalcemia, the main cause of which is "excessive bone resorption
with respect to new bone formation and release of Ca into the ECF"
(extracellular fluid). -- /Merck Manual,/ 16th ed, p. 1009

And as for telling you that vitamin D is "normally manufactured by
the body," that's pretty good evidence he hasn't been keeping up with
the science. Only if your skin is oily and you get plenty of sunlight
on it (not a good idea, IMHO) are you likely to get enough vitamin D
that way. Otherwise, a lack of vitamin D may cause serum levels of
calcium (and magnesium?) to be high, because the calcium is remaining in
your blood and not getting into your cells.

--
Marshall Price of Miami
Known to Yahoo as d021317c
From: Bruce in Bangkok on
On Sat, 03 May 2008 19:43:03 -0400, Marshall Price
<d021317c(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

>Bruce in Bangkok wrote:
>> On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 08:51:51 -0700 (PDT), BoneLady
>> <srsupporter(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Are you interested in an alternative to prescription drugs for
>>> osteoporosis? Strontium builds stronger bones than drugs like Fosamax,
>>> Actonel, or Boniva but without the dangerous side effects. For more
>>> information about strontium for treating osteoporosis, please visit
>>> Strontium For Bones at http://strontiumforbones.blogspot.com/. My
>>> blog offers visitors discussions, information, and links which will be
>>> updated periodically.
>>
>>
>> As I am presently taking strontium ranelate under a doctor's
>> supervision I note a number of differences in what is stated on the
>> Blog spot and what my doctor discussed with me.
>>
>> Calcium - The blog specifically mentions taking 1200 MG of calcium
>> daily. My doctor advises me that if serum calcium levels are in the
>> high normal range then the body cannot process additional calcium.
>>
>> Vitamin D3 - The blog specifically mentions taking D3 daily. My doctor
>> advises that providing D3 is being normally manufactured by the body
>> there is no requirement for additional supplements
>>
>> Magnesium - The blog specifically mentions taking Magnesium daily. My
>> doctor advises that is serum levels of magnesium are normal no
>> additional magnesium is required.
>>
>> Finally the blog spot loads erratically so I tried
>> http://strontiumforbones.com/ which appears to be much the same
>> information for strontium except that it appears to be an
>> advertizement for the sale of strontium capsules by an organization
>> named "Relentless Improvement", "Premium-Quality Nutriceuticals"
>>
>>
>> Bruce-in-Bangkok
>> (correct email address for reply)
>
> I'm surprised your doctor is relying on serum levels for assessing
>calcium and magnesium status. That's no good. Besides, his lab may be
>using inexpensive equipment that doesn't give an accurate assessment of
>ionic calcium; it's tricky. See the Merck Manual article about
>hypercalcemia, the main cause of which is "excessive bone resorption
>with respect to new bone formation and release of Ca into the ECF"
>(extracellular fluid). -- /Merck Manual,/ 16th ed, p. 1009
>
> And as for telling you that vitamin D is "normally manufactured by
>the body," that's pretty good evidence he hasn't been keeping up with
>the science. Only if your skin is oily and you get plenty of sunlight
>on it (not a good idea, IMHO) are you likely to get enough vitamin D
>that way. Otherwise, a lack of vitamin D may cause serum levels of
>calcium (and magnesium?) to be high, because the calcium is remaining in
>your blood and not getting into your cells.


Not to argue with you but in much of S.E. Asia vitamin D is pretty
much disregarded by physicians as it is extremely rare for low levels
to be found. Some time ago I attempted to have my Vit D levels tested
and found that no lab in Bangkok performed the tests as, pointed out
to me by a doctor, "because of the amount of sunlight the average Thai
is exposed to no one had insufficient vitamin D".

I might point out that labs in Thailand appear to offer a pretty
comprehensive breadth of tests I suspect that the inability to obtain
the test for Vitamin D lies with the lack of requests for it rather
then any "backwardness" in the management of the lab.


Bruce-in-Bangkok
(correct Address is bpaige125atgmaildotcom)
From: BoneLady on
On May 1, 3:18 am, "trigonometry1...(a)gmail.com |"
<trigonometry1...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Strontium ranelate reduces the risk of vertebral fractures
> in patients with osteopenia.
> Seeman E, Devogelaer JP, Lorenc R, Spector T,
> Brixen K, Balogh A, Stucki G, Reginster JY.
>
> Austin Health, University of
> Melbourne, Australia. e...(a)unimelb.edu.au
>
> Many fractures occur in women with moderate fracture
> risk caused by osteopenia. Strontium ranelate was
> studied in 1431 postmenopausal women with osteopenia.
> Vertebral fracture risk reduction of 41-59% was
> shown depending on the site and fracture status at
> baseline. This is the first report of antivertebral
> fracture efficacy in women with vertebral osteopenia.
>
> INTRODUCTION:
> Women withosteoporosisare at high risk
> for fracture. However, more than one half of all
> fractures in the community originate from the larger
> population at more moderate risk of fracture caused by
> osteopenia. Despite this, evidence for antifracture
> efficacy in these persons is limited. The aim of this
> study was to determine whether strontium ranelate,
> a new drug that reduces fracture risk in women with o
> steoporosis, is also effective in women with osteopenia.
>
> MATERIALS AND METHODS:
> Data from the SpinalOsteoporosisTherapeutic Intervention
> study (SOTI; n = 1649) and the TReatment Of PeripheralOSteoporosis(TROPOS; n = 5091) were pooled to evaluate
> the antivertebral fracture efficacy of strontium ranelate
> in women with lumbar spine (LS) osteopenia with any BMD
> value at the femoral neck (FN; N = 1166) and in 265
> women with osteopenia at both sites (intention-to-treat analysis).
> The women were randomized to strontium ranelate 2 g/d orally
> or placebo for 3 yr.
>
> RESULTS:
> No group differences were present
> in baseline characteristics that may influence fracture
> outcome independent of therapy. In women with LS osteopenia,
> treatment reduced the risk of vertebral fracture by 41%
> (RR = 0.59; 95% CI, 0.43-0.82), by
> 59% (RR = 0.41; 95% CI, 0.17-0.99) in the 447 patients
> with no prevalent fractures, and
> by 38% (RR = 0.62; 95% CI, 0.44-0.88) in the 719 patients
> with prevalent fractures. In women with osteopenia at
> both sites, treatment reduced the risk of fracture
> by 52% (RR = 0.48; 95% CI, 0.24-0.96).
>
> CONCLUSIONS:
> Strontium ranelate safely reduces the risk of vertebral
> fractures in women with osteopenia with or without a prevalent
> fracture.
>
> PMID: 17997711

Thank you for the informative article on strontium ranelate, a
prescription drug not available in the U.S.A. Strontium citrate is
available without a prescription. Since it is the strontium that is
incorporated into the bone matrix, any easily assimilable strontium
salt should work just as well in preventing bone fractures.Please
visit my non-commercial blog on strontium for osteoporosis and
osteopenia at http://strontiumforbones.blogspot.com/

BoneLady