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From: Cheri on 30 Jul 2008 12:38

Always Learning wrote in message ...

>Please drop those Low-Carb and Low-Fat diets. They not only don't
work
>but they are destructive on certain organs and that damage cannot be
>reversed.
>
>good luck and start counting calories!

Good luck with changing the world to suit yourelf. Funny, but my LC
WOL has worked for several years now. No organs destroyed or damaged
either.

Cheri


From: Kaz Kylheku on 30 Jul 2008 16:30
On 2008-07-30, Always Learning <noPublicEmail(a)this.time> wrote:
> So far, based on decades of study, the best diet is calorie counting.

All diets that work in reducing weight do so because of caloric restriction,
whether or not that is achieved by explicit counting.

> Those people lost the most amount of weight and kept it off at the
> highest success rate.
>
> All other diets might get some fast weight loss but also set people up
> to gain the weight back with a few extra pounds.
>
> Low carb was notable in that people lost a lot of weight BUT then
> gained back 110% of their weight back on average.
>
> Low fat wasn't much better with people gaining back 105% of their
> weight back after losing weight.

Low fat eating isn't a diet by itself; for dieters trying to lose weight, this
is merely a tool for helping to limit calories. Fat is calorie-dense by
weight, and typically by volume also since fat is rarely bulky, the way
carbohydrates can be. If you eat a lot of fat, it's going to be hard to eat a
satisfying quantity of food without consuming too many calories. You can add
hundreds of calories to a meal by the inclusion of some kind of added fat,
without adding much to that meal's volume or weight. Fat is also easily
processed into stored fat, more so than carbohydrate and protein.

> Please drop those Low-Carb and Low-Fat diets. They not only don't work
> but they are destructive on certain organs and that damage cannot be
> reversed.

Among humans, there are populations that eat mostly meat, and very little
carbohydrate material. They do well. Populations that eat very little fat also
do well.

High fat eating is rare in the animal kingdom; low fat is the rule. Carnivorous
animals eat lean prey; they do not eat fattened livestock. Nature's low-carbers
eat a high protein diet that is simultanously low in fat and carbohydrates.
Their carbohydrate needs come from converting protein to sugar. The same
conversion happens in the human body.

Plant-eating animals also generally eat diets very low in fat. They still
have body fat, and can produce fatty milk. How is that?

Fat can be reduced to a very low fraction of the caloric intake with
no ill effects; you have to eat close to /no/ fat at all to notice any
problems, such as insomnia and anxiety.
From: Kaz Kylheku on 30 Jul 2008 16:31
On 2008-07-30, Cheri <gserviceatinreachdotcom> wrote:
>
> Always Learning wrote in message ...
>
>>Please drop those Low-Carb and Low-Fat diets. They not only don't
> work
>>but they are destructive on certain organs and that damage cannot be
>>reversed.
>>
>>good luck and start counting calories!
>
> Good luck with changing the world to suit yourelf. Funny, but my LC
> WOL has worked for several years now. No organs destroyed or damaged
> either.

So how fat are you, again?
From: Hakan on 30 Jul 2008 18:08
Kaz Kylheku wrote:

>>
>> Good luck with changing the world to suit yourelf. Funny, but my LC
>> WOL has worked for several years now. No organs destroyed or damaged
>> either.

> So how fat are you, again?

Just get lost. Cheri is a long time poster in this forum who has helped
many people with different issues. Many of the regular folks in here
have used Atkins approach to improve their health. You on the other
hand, just came in here and used your first post to humiliate. Please
spread your garbage in other groups. You will not be missed in here.
Just get lost.



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From: Kaz Kylheku on 30 Jul 2008 18:55
On 2008-07-30, Hakan <H.L(a)softhome.net> wrote:
> Kaz Kylheku wrote:
>
>>>
>>> Good luck with changing the world to suit yourelf. Funny, but my LC
>>> WOL has worked for several years now. No organs destroyed or damaged
>>> either.
>
>> So how fat are you, again?
>
> Just get lost.

In other words, the question is taboo. Now why is that?

> Cheri is a long time poster in this forum

Noted, but irrelevant.

> who has helped many people with different issues.

Too booked to get around to yours, apparently.
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