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From: Kenny on 16 Apr 2008 20:47
On Wed, 16 Apr 2008, The Master <tardis(a)nospam.sdf.lonestar.org.nospam>
wrote:
>On Wed, 16 Apr 2008, Brain dead Kenny wrote:
>
>>>>TM, who happens to be 35 years old and morbidly obese (BMI 40+), claims
>>>>because he can walk briskly for 30 mintues, has the same risk of premature
>>>>death as someone who is of normal BMI and can walk briskly for 30 mintues.
>>>>He has failed repeatedly to prove this assertion.
>>>
>>>Already posted the article with the exact quote. Please look back and see.
>>
>>Read the challenge again, dumbass.
>
>Let's see...
>
>"because he can walk briskly for 30 mintues, has the same risk of
>premature death as someone who is of normal BMI and can walk briskly for
>30 mintues."
>
>Doctor Blair already did, dumbass.

Nope. That is a selective quote. Keep reading.

>
>"It may be possible to reduce all-cause death rates among older adults,
>including those who are obese, by promoting regular physical activity,
>such as brisk walking for 30 minutes or more on most days of the week
>
>"Normal-weight individuals in our study had greater longevity only if they
>were physically fit; furthermore, obese individuals who were fit did not
>have increased mortality," the authors conclude.

More selective quotes. Keep reading.

>
>>>Prove what part of it? The proof that "30 minute brisk walk on most days
>>>of the week is all the exercise you need" is already established in
>>>previous posts. All you have to do is look back in Google groups and find
>>>it. You're welcomed.
>>
>>Here's your exact assertion:
>>
>>From: The Master <tardis(a)nospam.sdf.lonestar.org.nospam>
>>Subject: Re: Obesity epidemic (TOTALLY acceptable)
>>Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 13:56:19 +0000
>>Message-ID: <Pine.NEB.4.64.0804111344260.28048(a)sdf.lonestar.org>
>>
>>"I may be fat, but I CAN walk briskly for 30 minutes... According to the
>>study, my risk of mortality is the same as a skinny person who can do the
>>same 30 minute brisk walk."
>>
>>**end quote**
>>
>>Prove this claim.
>
>"It may be possible to reduce all-cause death rates among older adults,
>including those who are obese, by promoting regular physical activity,
>such as brisk walking for 30 minutes or more on most days of the week
>
>"Normal-weight individuals in our study had greater longevity only if they
>were physically fit; furthermore, obese individuals who were fit did not
>have increased mortality," the authors conclude.
>
>*victory dance*
>
>Stupid Kenny.

Stupid TM. Re-read my challenge. In the study that you are quoting, there
is no distinct group of subjects who have a BMI of 40+.

>
>>>>Remember that your proof
>>>>needs to include a distinct group of people who have BMI's over 40.
>>>
>>>Great, you going to give me the 1.2 million bucks it will take for me to
>>>personally conduct the experiment that you have requested?
>>
>>In other words, you are a liar and unable to prove your assertion.
>
>Except for the fact that Dr. Blair already did prove it. I just wanted
>your money, stupid Kenny...

Once again, the snip and run coward selectively quotes the study.

Again. Here's your exact assertion:

From: The Master <tardis(a)nospam.sdf.lonestar.org.nospam>
Subject: Re: Obesity epidemic (TOTALLY acceptable)
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 13:56:19 +0000
Message-ID: <Pine.NEB.4.64.0804111344260.28048(a)sdf.lonestar.org>

"I may be fat, but I CAN walk briskly for 30 minutes... According to the
study, my risk of mortality is the same as a skinny person who can do the
same 30 minute brisk walk."

**end quote**

The part of the study that you selectively omitted. Quoting the study:

"In the study, obese subjects who were fit had a lower risk of dying than
normal-weight subjects who were physically inactive."

You fail. Again.

Also, there were TWO obese classifications. Obese Class I group (BMI
30-34.9) and Obese Class II group (BMI 35+). The article does not state if
one or both Obese groups were being used to draw this conclusion, nor how
high the BMI of the Obese Class II group went. Most fat acceptors,
including you (unless you want to deny it), have a BMI in excess of 40.
That is the threshold of the clinical definition of morbid obesity.

You fail, dumbass. Miserably.


























From: The Master on 7 May 2008 09:47
On Wed, 7 May 2008, Jo wrote:

>>>> "You are a failure, TM. That is why your former wife left you
>>>> after she lost weight.
>>
>> Already addressed this in the past. I own a 3 bedroom plus parent retreat
>> (that can be converted into a 4th bedroom) house on 1.5 acres of land. She
>> is pregnant with her live-in security guard boy friend's baby, in a 2
>> bedroom apartment. She traded skinny, but in no way up. I don't think
>> I'm a failure, I think it's funny as hell.
>
> You live in a state with low real estate prices, you live in BFE and drive
> a considerable distance to work. You probably have a subprime loan to
> boot.

She lives in the same state, my home loan is at a lower rate then the one
I had when I was married to her, and I drive far because the the metro
area I work in has built up. The closest "large land" plots were about 45
minutes away, I live only 15 minutes past that.

I'm not sure what BFE means though... If you mean "out in the middle of
no place", yeah. That's why I was able to get the 1.5 acres. Try finding
a track home that offers you that much.

>>>> That is why you believe that buying a 3 year old Kia Rio gives
>>>> you bragging rights.
>>
>> Bragging rights? Lets see, the first time I mentioned it, I did so as
>> apart of this group's charter, saying that it's a small car that I can fit
>> in with ease.
>
> You seemed very proud when you announced your purchase.

Reporting that I fit in it properly actually. I've driven a couple
Toyotas, a Mazda, and a Ford. None of them was comfortable to drive. The
Rio, however, was just fine and offered lots of room. Again, as it
relates to the group's charter, "hey people, this car has lots of room!"
If you can't understand that, it's not my fault.

> You snip the parts where you are smacked down. Loser.

You are suffering from delusions of adequacy.
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