From: Mark Probert on
Jan Drew wrote:
> "Vaccine-man" <ziggittes(a)yahoo.com> wrote
>> john reminds me of: "Facts are stupid things."

excellent quote from a reliable source.
From: Mark Probert on
Jan Drew wrote:
>>> "Peter Bowditch" <myfirstname(a)ratbags.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1dul52pvv7gh5cnusaietkpmuisvp266o3(a)4ax.com...
>>>> "marcia" <design1(a)insight.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Mark Probert wrote:
>>>>>>> What, other than vaccine, could possibly account for such a dramatic
>>>>>>> decline in mumps and chicken pox cases (in the US, at least) during
>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>> lifetime?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Many of the anti-vacs peg the decline as beginning in around 1955.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I note that this was the year the first McDonald's opened under Ray
>>>>>> Kroc, and, clearly, that was the cause.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am using pure anti-vac logic in this analysis.
>>>>> Nice logic. :) I'm completely bemused by this whole anti-vac movement.
>>>>> I was aware of it, but assumed it mainly consisted of anxious mothers
>>>>> who just needed some reassurance and education.
>>>>>
>>>>> Boy, have my eyes been opened here. :D
>>>> A whole asylum full of anti-vaccination liars at
>>>> http://www.ratbags.com/rsolesLIAR


http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles/vaxliars1.htm


http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles/vaxliars1.htm


http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles/vaxliars1.htm


http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles/vaxliars1.htm
From: marcia on

Jan Drew wrote:
> "Mark Probert"
> good, the reason you ahven't heard our story is because the
> allopaths/medical industry suppress it. I can demonstrate this by my
> attempts to get the anti-vax story on to Wikipedia--they tried to delete my
> page to National Anti-Vaccination League http://www.whale.to/a/navl.html,
> and are still trying to delete it
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Anti-Vaccination_League by merging it
> into a page called Anti Vaccinationists

Soooo... it's all a big conspiracy, in other words.

Out of curiosity, what made you decide to buy into the anti-vac
movement in the first place? Was it the compelling logic? Personal
knowledge of a vaccine-related tragedy? Bad experiences with allopathic
doctors?

From: Peter Bowditch on
JohnDoe <dont(a)spam.me> wrote:

>john wrote:
>
>> "Peter Bowditch" <myfirstname(a)ratbags.com> wrote in message
>> news:q1jm52h8vaed36slgnv46647tccfhtlpoc(a)4ax.com...
>>
>>
>>>I mentioned to Marcia that these people are mad. I saw Dr Kalokerinos
>>>on stage once and he is the most insane person I have ever seen
>>>outside a mental hospital. He stood there in front of a crowd of
>>>several hundred people and said that the WHO and the Save The Children
>>>Fund were engaged in a policy of deliberate genocide which would "put
>>>Hitler and Stalin in the shade". And we are supposed to take this
>>>arsehole seriously?
>>>
>>
>>
>> "At one point in my career, I had a long conversation with a man who
>> occupied a high government position in an African nation. He told me that he
>> was well aware of this. He told me that WHO is a front for these
>> depopulation interests."--Jon Rappoport interview
>>
>> http://www.whale.to/b/genocide_vax_q.html
>
>I do not agree with Peter Bowditch here. I would not call someone the
>'most insane person I have ever seen' because it gives you the problem
>that all other persons must then be ranked below that person. John (from
>whale.to) may very well be more insane than Dr. Kalokerinos. Though I
>must admit Peter Bowditch is in a better position to make judgements
>abouts Kalokerinos' sanity, having actually seen the man.

I did say "that I have ... seen". There may well be madder people out
there (John's quote above suggests that there are at least three
equals - Rappoport, the unnamed African official, and the owner of the
whale.to web site) but I haven't seen them.

I haven't been able to track down an actual quote, but someone told me
that David Icke had claimed that the flu vaccine was going to be
distributed in aircraft condensation trails in order to reduce the
world's population from 6 billion + to about 500 million, but Icke is
in a class of his own and shouldn't be used as a benchmark for rating
other mad people. (Sylvia Browne said that the same reduction in
population was the goal of the people who invented and distributed
AIDS. I hope that both population reduction campaigns don't happen at
the same time.)
--
Peter Bowditch aa #2243
The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au
Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au
To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com
From: Peter Bowditch on
"marcia" <design1(a)insight.rr.com> wrote:

>
>Jan Drew wrote:
>> "Mark Probert"
>> good, the reason you ahven't heard our story is because the
>> allopaths/medical industry suppress it. I can demonstrate this by my
>> attempts to get the anti-vax story on to Wikipedia--they tried to delete my
>> page to National Anti-Vaccination League http://www.whale.to/a/navl.html,
>> and are still trying to delete it
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Anti-Vaccination_League by merging it
>> into a page called Anti Vaccinationists
>
>Soooo... it's all a big conspiracy, in other words.
>
>Out of curiosity, what made you decide to buy into the anti-vac
>movement in the first place? Was it the compelling logic? Personal
>knowledge of a vaccine-related tragedy? Bad experiences with allopathic
>doctors?

Jan is buying into it today because Mark and I aren't. That's good
enough for her.
--
Peter Bowditch aa #2243
The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au
Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au
To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com