Shoulder Report - Torn Labrum
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From: Steve Freides on 5 Aug 2008 15:16 Here is the MRI report on my injured left shoulder for anyone interested. It's pretty much in medico-speak so I plan to annotate it to make it more understandable by me and anyone else. http://www.kbnj.com/ShoulderMRI.htm Short story: 1) Large tear in the labrum plus signs of arthritis in the joint. 2) Orthopedist recommends surgery but says there's no need to hurry. This will likely stay just as it is indefinitely - it won't get better and it won't get worse unless I do something to further injure it. 3) Ortho also says if it doesn't hurt, I can still do it, and specifically OK'ed deadlifting and kettlebell swings. 4) Current, tentative plan is to have it fixed in a couple of months. Rehab is six weeks in a sling including passive PT followed by a gradual resumption of normal activity including active PT over the following months. -S- http://www.kbnj.com
From: Keith on 5 Aug 2008 15:27 In article <6frn94FclpinU1(a)mid.individual.net>, "Steve Freides" <steve(a)fridayscomputer.com> wrote: > Here is the MRI report on my injured left shoulder for anyone > interested. It's pretty much in medico-speak so I plan to annotate it > to make it more understandable by me and anyone else. > > http://www.kbnj.com/ShoulderMRI.htm > > Short story: > > 1) Large tear in the labrum plus signs of arthritis in the joint. > > 2) Orthopedist recommends surgery but says there's no need to hurry. > This will likely stay just as it is indefinitely - it won't get better > and it won't get worse unless I do something to further injure it. > > 3) Ortho also says if it doesn't hurt, I can still do it, and > specifically OK'ed deadlifting and kettlebell swings. > > 4) Current, tentative plan is to have it fixed in a couple of months. > Rehab is six weeks in a sling including passive PT followed by a gradual > resumption of normal activity including active PT over the following > months. > > -S- > http://www.kbnj.com Couple of questions and comments here. What do you attribute the tear too? Shoulder capsule damage is notoriously difficult to rehab - inflammation affects so much movement. Is the damage caused by OH lifts, in your opinion. Also - I wonder if there is a person alive who actually moves who doesn't have some signs of arthritis? It just seems to be a catch-all type term.
From: Steve Freides on 5 Aug 2008 19:54 "Keith" <hobbes(a)tigger.com> wrote in message news:hobbes-BCFDEE.13274505082008(a)news.sasktel.net... > In article <6frn94FclpinU1(a)mid.individual.net>, > "Steve Freides" <steve(a)fridayscomputer.com> wrote: > >> Here is the MRI report on my injured left shoulder for anyone >> interested. It's pretty much in medico-speak so I plan to annotate >> it >> to make it more understandable by me and anyone else. >> >> http://www.kbnj.com/ShoulderMRI.htm >> >> Short story: >> >> 1) Large tear in the labrum plus signs of arthritis in the joint. >> >> 2) Orthopedist recommends surgery but says there's no need to hurry. >> This will likely stay just as it is indefinitely - it won't get >> better >> and it won't get worse unless I do something to further injure it. >> >> 3) Ortho also says if it doesn't hurt, I can still do it, and >> specifically OK'ed deadlifting and kettlebell swings. >> >> 4) Current, tentative plan is to have it fixed in a couple of >> months. >> Rehab is six weeks in a sling including passive PT followed by a >> gradual >> resumption of normal activity including active PT over the following >> months. >> >> -S- >> http://www.kbnj.com > > Couple of questions and comments here. > > What do you attribute the tear too? You are the umpteenth person to ask, and I don't have a firm answer but I believe, in a nutshell, it was overtraining. I was following a program I'd read about "by the book" and think I basically did too much - lighter, less volume, more recovery days - any of those would have helped my cause. I decided to be a tough guy and paid the price. I have, almost always in the past, not gotten sucked in by the attitude that you have to follow the program, even if you don't feel like it. I decided to pay less attention to the messages from my body this time and hope I don't make that mistake again. Specifically, I did a lot of overhead pressing, weighted pullups, and getups, and set several new personal bests shortly before I stopped lifting - I set these bests with the tear in my shoulder. The biggest change, though, was the amount of weight I lifted in a given period of time; my usual habit was to do everything in short sets on long rests and I didn't do that. > Shoulder capsule damage is > notoriously difficult to rehab - inflammation affects so much > movement. > Is the damage caused by OH lifts, in your opinion. Answered above. It is amazing - to me, at least - how much I can still do, including overhead lifting, e.g., I can snatch a 24 kg for reps completely pain-free, and I can do kettlebell windmills in comfort as well, likewise bodyweight pullups for a few reps. Basically, following the tips for shoulder health that I already knew, but following them better than I did, allows me to still do quite a bit. > Also - I wonder if there is a person alive who actually moves who > doesn't have some signs of arthritis? It just seems to be a catch-all > type term. I will see the doctor again before the surgery and ask specifically if there is anything they want to do about the signs of arthritis they saw. It is possible, although I don't know how likely, that I got into a funny groove with my shoulder in order to avoid pain caused by arthritis. Even with an MRI, it's tough to firmly determine cause and effect. -S- http://www.kbnj.com
From: Omelet on 5 Aug 2008 21:47 In article <6frn94FclpinU1(a)mid.individual.net>, "Steve Freides" <steve(a)fridayscomputer.com> wrote: > Here is the MRI report on my injured left shoulder for anyone > interested. It's pretty much in medico-speak so I plan to annotate it > to make it more understandable by me and anyone else. > > http://www.kbnj.com/ShoulderMRI.htm > > Short story: > > 1) Large tear in the labrum plus signs of arthritis in the joint. > > 2) Orthopedist recommends surgery but says there's no need to hurry. > This will likely stay just as it is indefinitely - it won't get better > and it won't get worse unless I do something to further injure it. > > 3) Ortho also says if it doesn't hurt, I can still do it, and > specifically OK'ed deadlifting and kettlebell swings. > > 4) Current, tentative plan is to have it fixed in a couple of months. > Rehab is six weeks in a sling including passive PT followed by a gradual > resumption of normal activity including active PT over the following > months. > > -S- > http://www.kbnj.com Wow... Best of luck with that. Will the surgery be done by 'scope? -- Peace! Om All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. - Edmund Burke (1729 - 1797)
From: Killer on 5 Aug 2008 22:24
"Omelet" <ompomelet(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:ompomelet-96B93E.20473805082008(a)news.giganews.com... > In article <6frn94FclpinU1(a)mid.individual.net>, > "Steve Freides" <steve(a)fridayscomputer.com> wrote: > >> Here is the MRI report on my injured left shoulder for anyone >> interested. It's pretty much in medico-speak so I plan to annotate it >> to make it more understandable by me and anyone else. >> Steve, did you get hurt on you bike? You never answered when I asked about your cycling! Burr |