From: Philip Peters on

So much for *rational behavior*.
It's a sad story. Note the derogatory tone of the article in the well
respected newspaper (hehe).

P.
From NY Post:

STAR SHRINK, 92, IS PSYCHED OUT
By DAVID HAFETZ

October 9, 2005 -- An eccentric shrink whose theories have come to shape
modern psychotherapy is ensconced in an apartment atop the East 65th
Street institute he founded while he battles a bitter coup.

Albert Ellis, 92, whose work has been hailed by everyone from the
Clintons to Mayor Bloomberg to Nicole Kidman, was booted Sept. 18 from
the board of the nonprofit Albert Ellis Institute. He also was barred
from the Friday-night "stand-up" psychotherapy sessions he has conducted
before crowds of as many as 200 for more than 30 years.

A lawyer for the board says Ellis' expenses are "preposterous" and
putting the institute's future at risk.

Ellis says he's been defamed, and his lawyer claims people at the
institute are trying to create the impression that Ellis is "losing it."

From his apartment in the mansion that houses the institute, Ellis has
fired back with two lawsuits against the institute and four trustees.
The suit accuses the trustees of acting illegally to remove him and
"wrest and solidify control of the Ellis Institute and its benefits for
themselves."

In the mid-'50s, Ellis proposed that therapy focus not on excavating
childhood but on confronting and dismissing irrational expectations
people have for their lives ? such as "I must succeed" or "I must be
loved." His rational emotive behavior therapy (REBT) led the American
Psychological Association to name him the second most influential
psychotherapist, placing him above Freud.

Eccentric and foulmouthed, Ellis practiced a stop-your-whining form of
therapy, some say. "All humans are out of their f---ing minds ? every
single one of them," he has said.


But now the master shrink has to wear special headphones because he is
nearly deaf. He also suffered a gastrointestinal infection that nearly
killed him two years ago.

After pouring decades of work and money, including proceeds from his 75
books, into the institute, Ellis and trustees have been locked in
increasingly bitter negotiations over paying his medical expenses, which
include round-the-clock nursing care. The negotiations also involve
rights to Ellis' books and papers.

On Aug. 25, Ellis wrote an e-mail to one trustee ? Rory Stuart, a jazz
guitarist and the son of Ellis' publisher ? addressing "derogatory"
comments.

"I want the public to see that I am not regarded by the institute as off
the charts, over the hill, incompetent and a detriment to myself," Ellis
wrote. He urged trustees to show the institute "remains fully dedicated
to REBT."

According to his lawyers, rumors were being spread that the ailing Ellis
was "losing it" and had beaten an audience member at a workshop with his
cane.

At recent meetings, the trustees have yelled and said things like,
"That's not good REBT, Al," said Ellis' lawyer, Robert Juceam.

"They need help," Juceam said.

In one lawsuit, Ellis singles out Michael Broder, a Philadelphia
psychologist who was trained by Ellis and now serves as the institute's
executive director, for allegedly "conducting a vendetta . . . because
of professional and personal disagreements."

A lawyer for the institute, Daniel Kurtz, said board members were trying
to ensure the institute "has a future."

Kurtz said the institute had paid Ellis "excess benefits," including
more than $500,000 after he was hospitalized in 2004 and left incapacitated.

"This isn't Dr. Ellis' old-age pension ? that's illegal," Kurtz said.

Kurtz said it was "preposterous" for Ellis to receive such large
compensation from the institution, which he said has an annual budget of
under $2 million.

He said the board, which had also voted to reclaim money from Ellis, had
risked an investigation and loss of the institute's tax-exempt status.

Ellis' lawyers say the money ? which they put at closer to $400,000 ?
came from a trust fund that trustees, including Broder, had set up to
help him. The lawyers say Ellis is committed to repaying the institute
if the benefits were improper.

Juceam said Ellis had provided the institution with "50 years of unpaid
services," receiving a tiny salary ? it recently was boosted to $47,000
? while raising money, supervising training and running workshops. They
also say his room has a leaky roof and peeling paint.

Juceam said the lawsuits "are not a picnic" for his elderly client, who
often counsels patients to quit whining about their problems.

At a July workshop, he reportedly told one stressed person, "At least
you can eat and sleep and hopefully f--- at the end of the day."
From: mcs on
oh how suprising. As someone who came from six hospital stays and seeing
parents and families often crazier then the patients , criticizing their
kids while they were in denial ( sounds like Elidiot who we still don't
know why panics) , this little story pretty much describes crazy people not
knowing why theyare crazy and when a few things go wrong all hell breaks
out.. To deny family influences or to not complain about real consequences
of actions in family or environment or even in friends, shows a corrupted
concept. Everyone wants a neat package to buy into. Unfortuantely everything
is connected.
3
"Philip Peters" <philip(a)p-peters.demon.nl> wrote in message
news:434b982e$0$11080$e4fe514c(a)news.xs4all.nl...
>
> So much for *rational behavior*.
> It's a sad story. Note the derogatory tone of the article in the well
> respected newspaper (hehe).
>
> P.
> From NY Post:
>
> STAR SHRINK, 92, IS PSYCHED OUT
> By DAVID HAFETZ
>
> October 9, 2005 -- An eccentric shrink whose theories have come to shape
> modern psychotherapy is ensconced in an apartment atop the East 65th
> Street institute he founded while he battles a bitter coup.
>
> Albert Ellis, 92, whose work has been hailed by everyone from the Clintons
> to Mayor Bloomberg to Nicole Kidman, was booted Sept. 18 from the board of
> the nonprofit Albert Ellis Institute. He also was barred from the
> Friday-night "stand-up" psychotherapy sessions he has conducted before
> crowds of as many as 200 for more than 30 years.
>
> A lawyer for the board says Ellis' expenses are "preposterous" and putting
> the institute's future at risk.
>
> Ellis says he's been defamed, and his lawyer claims people at the
> institute are trying to create the impression that Ellis is "losing it."
>
> From his apartment in the mansion that houses the institute, Ellis has
> fired back with two lawsuits against the institute and four trustees. The
> suit accuses the trustees of acting illegally to remove him and "wrest and
> solidify control of the Ellis Institute and its benefits for themselves."
>
> In the mid-'50s, Ellis proposed that therapy focus not on excavating
> childhood but on confronting and dismissing irrational expectations people
> have for their lives ? such as "I must succeed" or "I must be loved." His
> rational emotive behavior therapy (REBT) led the American Psychological
> Association to name him the second most influential psychotherapist,
> placing him above Freud.
>
> Eccentric and foulmouthed, Ellis practiced a stop-your-whining form of
> therapy, some say. "All humans are out of their f---ing minds ? every
> single one of them," he has said.
>
>
> But now the master shrink has to wear special headphones because he is
> nearly deaf. He also suffered a gastrointestinal infection that nearly
> killed him two years ago.
>
> After pouring decades of work and money, including proceeds from his 75
> books, into the institute, Ellis and trustees have been locked in
> increasingly bitter negotiations over paying his medical expenses, which
> include round-the-clock nursing care. The negotiations also involve rights
> to Ellis' books and papers.
>
> On Aug. 25, Ellis wrote an e-mail to one trustee ? Rory Stuart, a jazz
> guitarist and the son of Ellis' publisher ? addressing "derogatory"
> comments.
>
> "I want the public to see that I am not regarded by the institute as off
> the charts, over the hill, incompetent and a detriment to myself," Ellis
> wrote. He urged trustees to show the institute "remains fully dedicated to
> REBT."
>
> According to his lawyers, rumors were being spread that the ailing Ellis
> was "losing it" and had beaten an audience member at a workshop with his
> cane.
>
> At recent meetings, the trustees have yelled and said things like, "That's
> not good REBT, Al," said Ellis' lawyer, Robert Juceam.
>
> "They need help," Juceam said.
>
> In one lawsuit, Ellis singles out Michael Broder, a Philadelphia
> psychologist who was trained by Ellis and now serves as the institute's
> executive director, for allegedly "conducting a vendetta . . . because of
> professional and personal disagreements."
>
> A lawyer for the institute, Daniel Kurtz, said board members were trying
> to ensure the institute "has a future."
>
> Kurtz said the institute had paid Ellis "excess benefits," including more
> than $500,000 after he was hospitalized in 2004 and left incapacitated.
>
> "This isn't Dr. Ellis' old-age pension ? that's illegal," Kurtz said.
>
> Kurtz said it was "preposterous" for Ellis to receive such large
> compensation from the institution, which he said has an annual budget of
> under $2 million.
>
> He said the board, which had also voted to reclaim money from Ellis, had
> risked an investigation and loss of the institute's tax-exempt status.
>
> Ellis' lawyers say the money ? which they put at closer to $400,000 ? came
> from a trust fund that trustees, including Broder, had set up to help him.
> The lawyers say Ellis is committed to repaying the institute if the
> benefits were improper.
>
> Juceam said Ellis had provided the institution with "50 years of unpaid
> services," receiving a tiny salary ? it recently was boosted to $47,000 ?
> while raising money, supervising training and running workshops. They also
> say his room has a leaky roof and peeling paint.
>
> Juceam said the lawsuits "are not a picnic" for his elderly client, who
> often counsels patients to quit whining about their problems.
>
> At a July workshop, he reportedly told one stressed person, "At least you
> can eat and sleep and hopefully f--- at the end of the day."


From: mcs on
sorry elliott I couldn't help myself. /sometimes I am still too reactive to
people I shouldn't let bother me.
"mcs" <mcs(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:GqP2f.3818$vi2.1787(a)trndny04...
> oh how suprising. As someone who came from six hospital stays and seeing
> parents and families often crazier then the patients , criticizing their
> kids while they were in denial ( sounds like Elidiot who we still don't
> know why panics) , this little story pretty much describes crazy people
> not knowing why theyare crazy and when a few things go wrong all hell
> breaks out.. To deny family influences or to not complain about real
> consequences of actions in family or environment or even in friends, shows
> a corrupted concept. Everyone wants a neat package to buy into.
> Unfortuantely everything is connected.
> 3
> "Philip Peters" <philip(a)p-peters.demon.nl> wrote in message
> news:434b982e$0$11080$e4fe514c(a)news.xs4all.nl...
>>
>> So much for *rational behavior*.
>> It's a sad story. Note the derogatory tone of the article in the well
>> respected newspaper (hehe).
>>
>> P.
>> From NY Post:
>>
>> STAR SHRINK, 92, IS PSYCHED OUT
>> By DAVID HAFETZ
>>
>> October 9, 2005 -- An eccentric shrink whose theories have come to shape
>> modern psychotherapy is ensconced in an apartment atop the East 65th
>> Street institute he founded while he battles a bitter coup.
>>
>> Albert Ellis, 92, whose work has been hailed by everyone from the
>> Clintons to Mayor Bloomberg to Nicole Kidman, was booted Sept. 18 from
>> the board of the nonprofit Albert Ellis Institute. He also was barred
>> from the Friday-night "stand-up" psychotherapy sessions he has conducted
>> before crowds of as many as 200 for more than 30 years.
>>
>> A lawyer for the board says Ellis' expenses are "preposterous" and
>> putting the institute's future at risk.
>>
>> Ellis says he's been defamed, and his lawyer claims people at the
>> institute are trying to create the impression that Ellis is "losing it."
>>
>> From his apartment in the mansion that houses the institute, Ellis has
>> fired back with two lawsuits against the institute and four trustees. The
>> suit accuses the trustees of acting illegally to remove him and "wrest
>> and solidify control of the Ellis Institute and its benefits for
>> themselves."
>>
>> In the mid-'50s, Ellis proposed that therapy focus not on excavating
>> childhood but on confronting and dismissing irrational expectations
>> people have for their lives - such as "I must succeed" or "I must be
>> loved." His rational emotive behavior therapy (REBT) led the American
>> Psychological Association to name him the second most influential
>> psychotherapist, placing him above Freud.
>>
>> Eccentric and foulmouthed, Ellis practiced a stop-your-whining form of
>> therapy, some say. "All humans are out of their f---ing minds - every
>> single one of them," he has said.
>>
>>
>> But now the master shrink has to wear special headphones because he is
>> nearly deaf. He also suffered a gastrointestinal infection that nearly
>> killed him two years ago.
>>
>> After pouring decades of work and money, including proceeds from his 75
>> books, into the institute, Ellis and trustees have been locked in
>> increasingly bitter negotiations over paying his medical expenses, which
>> include round-the-clock nursing care. The negotiations also involve
>> rights to Ellis' books and papers.
>>
>> On Aug. 25, Ellis wrote an e-mail to one trustee - Rory Stuart, a jazz
>> guitarist and the son of Ellis' publisher - addressing "derogatory"
>> comments.
>>
>> "I want the public to see that I am not regarded by the institute as off
>> the charts, over the hill, incompetent and a detriment to myself," Ellis
>> wrote. He urged trustees to show the institute "remains fully dedicated
>> to REBT."
>>
>> According to his lawyers, rumors were being spread that the ailing Ellis
>> was "losing it" and had beaten an audience member at a workshop with his
>> cane.
>>
>> At recent meetings, the trustees have yelled and said things like,
>> "That's not good REBT, Al," said Ellis' lawyer, Robert Juceam.
>>
>> "They need help," Juceam said.
>>
>> In one lawsuit, Ellis singles out Michael Broder, a Philadelphia
>> psychologist who was trained by Ellis and now serves as the institute's
>> executive director, for allegedly "conducting a vendetta . . . because of
>> professional and personal disagreements."
>>
>> A lawyer for the institute, Daniel Kurtz, said board members were trying
>> to ensure the institute "has a future."
>>
>> Kurtz said the institute had paid Ellis "excess benefits," including more
>> than $500,000 after he was hospitalized in 2004 and left incapacitated.
>>
>> "This isn't Dr. Ellis' old-age pension - that's illegal," Kurtz said.
>>
>> Kurtz said it was "preposterous" for Ellis to receive such large
>> compensation from the institution, which he said has an annual budget of
>> under $2 million.
>>
>> He said the board, which had also voted to reclaim money from Ellis, had
>> risked an investigation and loss of the institute's tax-exempt status.
>>
>> Ellis' lawyers say the money - which they put at closer to $400,000 -
>> came from a trust fund that trustees, including Broder, had set up to
>> help him. The lawyers say Ellis is committed to repaying the institute if
>> the benefits were improper.
>>
>> Juceam said Ellis had provided the institution with "50 years of unpaid
>> services," receiving a tiny salary - it recently was boosted to $47,000 -
>> while raising money, supervising training and running workshops. They
>> also say his room has a leaky roof and peeling paint.
>>
>> Juceam said the lawsuits "are not a picnic" for his elderly client, who
>> often counsels patients to quit whining about their problems.
>>
>> At a July workshop, he reportedly told one stressed person, "At least you
>> can eat and sleep and hopefully f--- at the end of the day."
>
>


From: Philip Peters on
mcs wrote:

> oh how suprising. As someone who came from six hospital stays and seeing
> parents and families often crazier then the patients , criticizing their
> kids while they were in denial ( sounds like Elidiot who we still don't
> know why panics) , this little story pretty much describes crazy people not
> knowing why theyare crazy and when a few things go wrong all hell breaks
> out.. To deny family influences or to not complain about real consequences
> of actions in family or environment or even in friends, shows a corrupted
> concept. Everyone wants a neat package to buy into. Unfortuantely everything
> is connected.

What has this nonsense (including Elliott ;-) to do with anything?
It seems a 7th hospital stay would be in order for you. Oh no, wait, you
already had your lobotomy.

P.

> 3
> "Philip Peters" <philip(a)p-peters.demon.nl> wrote in message
> news:434b982e$0$11080$e4fe514c(a)news.xs4all.nl...
>
>>So much for *rational behavior*.
>>It's a sad story. Note the derogatory tone of the article in the well
>>respected newspaper (hehe).
>>
>>P.
>>From NY Post:
>>
>>STAR SHRINK, 92, IS PSYCHED OUT
>>By DAVID HAFETZ
>>
>>October 9, 2005 -- An eccentric shrink whose theories have come to shape
>>modern psychotherapy is ensconced in an apartment atop the East 65th
>>Street institute he founded while he battles a bitter coup.
>>
>>Albert Ellis, 92, whose work has been hailed by everyone from the Clintons
>>to Mayor Bloomberg to Nicole Kidman, was booted Sept. 18 from the board of
>>the nonprofit Albert Ellis Institute. He also was barred from the
>>Friday-night "stand-up" psychotherapy sessions he has conducted before
>>crowds of as many as 200 for more than 30 years.
>>
>>A lawyer for the board says Ellis' expenses are "preposterous" and putting
>>the institute's future at risk.
>>
>>Ellis says he's been defamed, and his lawyer claims people at the
>>institute are trying to create the impression that Ellis is "losing it."
>>
>>From his apartment in the mansion that houses the institute, Ellis has
>>fired back with two lawsuits against the institute and four trustees. The
>>suit accuses the trustees of acting illegally to remove him and "wrest and
>>solidify control of the Ellis Institute and its benefits for themselves."
>>
>>In the mid-'50s, Ellis proposed that therapy focus not on excavating
>>childhood but on confronting and dismissing irrational expectations people
>>have for their lives ? such as "I must succeed" or "I must be loved." His
>>rational emotive behavior therapy (REBT) led the American Psychological
>>Association to name him the second most influential psychotherapist,
>>placing him above Freud.
>>
>>Eccentric and foulmouthed, Ellis practiced a stop-your-whining form of
>>therapy, some say. "All humans are out of their f---ing minds ? every
>>single one of them," he has said.
>>
>>
>>But now the master shrink has to wear special headphones because he is
>>nearly deaf. He also suffered a gastrointestinal infection that nearly
>>killed him two years ago.
>>
>>After pouring decades of work and money, including proceeds from his 75
>>books, into the institute, Ellis and trustees have been locked in
>>increasingly bitter negotiations over paying his medical expenses, which
>>include round-the-clock nursing care. The negotiations also involve rights
>>to Ellis' books and papers.
>>
>>On Aug. 25, Ellis wrote an e-mail to one trustee ? Rory Stuart, a jazz
>>guitarist and the son of Ellis' publisher ? addressing "derogatory"
>>comments.
>>
>>"I want the public to see that I am not regarded by the institute as off
>>the charts, over the hill, incompetent and a detriment to myself," Ellis
>>wrote. He urged trustees to show the institute "remains fully dedicated to
>>REBT."
>>
>>According to his lawyers, rumors were being spread that the ailing Ellis
>>was "losing it" and had beaten an audience member at a workshop with his
>>cane.
>>
>>At recent meetings, the trustees have yelled and said things like, "That's
>>not good REBT, Al," said Ellis' lawyer, Robert Juceam.
>>
>>"They need help," Juceam said.
>>
>>In one lawsuit, Ellis singles out Michael Broder, a Philadelphia
>>psychologist who was trained by Ellis and now serves as the institute's
>>executive director, for allegedly "conducting a vendetta . . . because of
>>professional and personal disagreements."
>>
>>A lawyer for the institute, Daniel Kurtz, said board members were trying
>>to ensure the institute "has a future."
>>
>>Kurtz said the institute had paid Ellis "excess benefits," including more
>>than $500,000 after he was hospitalized in 2004 and left incapacitated.
>>
>>"This isn't Dr. Ellis' old-age pension ? that's illegal," Kurtz said.
>>
>>Kurtz said it was "preposterous" for Ellis to receive such large
>>compensation from the institution, which he said has an annual budget of
>>under $2 million.
>>
>>He said the board, which had also voted to reclaim money from Ellis, had
>>risked an investigation and loss of the institute's tax-exempt status.
>>
>>Ellis' lawyers say the money ? which they put at closer to $400,000 ? came
>>from a trust fund that trustees, including Broder, had set up to help him.
>>The lawyers say Ellis is committed to repaying the institute if the
>>benefits were improper.
>>
>>Juceam said Ellis had provided the institution with "50 years of unpaid
>>services," receiving a tiny salary ? it recently was boosted to $47,000 ?
>>while raising money, supervising training and running workshops. They also
>>say his room has a leaky roof and peeling paint.
>>
>>Juceam said the lawsuits "are not a picnic" for his elderly client, who
>>often counsels patients to quit whining about their problems.
>>
>>At a July workshop, he reportedly told one stressed person, "At least you
>>can eat and sleep and hopefully f--- at the end of the day."
>
>
>
From: Micah.Perkins on
I am not sure if this article has all of its facts straight.
Ellis is 92 and his health is rapidly declining.
He may be in disagreements with the institute board, but I am not sure
if it is as bitter as what this article implies.
But, who knows.
We will see.
We are discussing this a lot on another list server as well-
The REBT-CBT Forum on Yahoo.
Micah

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