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From: Susan on 9 Oct 2008 19:44
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It's exactly one month since I had sinus surgery involving opening
blocked sinuses that have been infected and blocked for years. One
effect on the endocrine system of infections, acute or chronic, is that
they raise the stress hormone, cortisol. Cortisol, among other things,
is a known cause of diabetes. It raises blood glucose. In fact, if you
have dawn phenomenon, it's due to excess cortisol and not enough insulin
production to counter the effect of the cortisol.

I'm posting this because my bg has been absurdly low, both fasting, pre
meal and post meal, increasingly for the past week or so, as my healing
has progressed and my recovery from surgery is further along.

My bg at this very moment is 78. My fastings have been 84-91 for the
past week or ten days. I ate regular ice cream for the first time in
years the other day, took a short walk and tested at one and two hours:
97 and 104. I've never had higher two hour bg in my life, btw, but
still, mighty low. I've tested after vacation meals in which I had a
little starch or starchy squash, for instance, stuff that used to spike
me beyond all reason. Still in the 90s one hour after eating.

My appetite is hugely diminished since the infections have been gone,
too, I can almost go without eating, except I get hungry in the
evenings, and a little woozy if I go til the afternoon before eating
something. My meals are quite small, I feel full very quickly and I
don't get tempted by my chocolate stash any more, rarely touch it.

So, who knows if I'm still diabetic? I know I'm not IR with a fasting
insulin of 5.7. Next HbA1c should be interesting; I'd crept up all the
way from 5.2 to 5.9% due to high cortisol.

I will be doing a lot of blood, urine and saliva testing in the coming
months to see where my Cushing's status stands. I still have to eat
less than 1000 calories per day to lose weight, and quickly gain on much
more than that. I will also have a human growth hormone stimulation
test when I go back to Calif. to see my endo in the coming months.

Summary: blood glucose of 76-104 pretty much in the 80s between meals
in recent weeks til today.

No matter what, I'll continue to eat zero starch because I think a high
carb diet causes cancer, CVD, insulin resistance and a whole host of bad
things, so I won't be tempting fate.

Wierd science!

Susan
From: Tiger_Lily on 9 Oct 2008 20:36
Susan wrote:
> x-no-archive: yes
>
> It's exactly one month since I had sinus surgery involving opening
> blocked sinuses that have been infected and blocked for years. One
> effect on the endocrine system of infections, acute or chronic, is that
> they raise the stress hormone, cortisol. Cortisol, among other things,
> is a known cause of diabetes. It raises blood glucose. In fact, if you
> have dawn phenomenon, it's due to excess cortisol and not enough insulin
> production to counter the effect of the cortisol.
>
> I'm posting this because my bg has been absurdly low, both fasting, pre
> meal and post meal, increasingly for the past week or so, as my healing
> has progressed and my recovery from surgery is further along.
>
> My bg at this very moment is 78. My fastings have been 84-91 for the
> past week or ten days. I ate regular ice cream for the first time in
> years the other day, took a short walk and tested at one and two hours:
> 97 and 104. I've never had higher two hour bg in my life, btw, but
> still, mighty low. I've tested after vacation meals in which I had a
> little starch or starchy squash, for instance, stuff that used to spike
> me beyond all reason. Still in the 90s one hour after eating.
>
> My appetite is hugely diminished since the infections have been gone,
> too, I can almost go without eating, except I get hungry in the
> evenings, and a little woozy if I go til the afternoon before eating
> something. My meals are quite small, I feel full very quickly and I
> don't get tempted by my chocolate stash any more, rarely touch it.
>
> So, who knows if I'm still diabetic? I know I'm not IR with a fasting
> insulin of 5.7. Next HbA1c should be interesting; I'd crept up all the
> way from 5.2 to 5.9% due to high cortisol.
>
> I will be doing a lot of blood, urine and saliva testing in the coming
> months to see where my Cushing's status stands. I still have to eat
> less than 1000 calories per day to lose weight, and quickly gain on much
> more than that. I will also have a human growth hormone stimulation
> test when I go back to Calif. to see my endo in the coming months.
>
> Summary: blood glucose of 76-104 pretty much in the 80s between meals
> in recent weeks til today.
>
> No matter what, I'll continue to eat zero starch because I think a high
> carb diet causes cancer, CVD, insulin resistance and a whole host of bad
> things, so I won't be tempting fate.
>
> Wierd science!
>
> Susan

wow, sounds like the surgery was a double success for you!

congratulations, Susan :)

--
kate
type 1 since 1987
www.diabetic-chat.org
www.diabetic-talk.org
http://www.diabetes-support.org.uk/newly%20diagnosed.html
From: Susan on 9 Oct 2008 20:40
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Tiger_Lily wrote:

>
> wow, sounds like the surgery was a double success for you!
>
> congratulations, Susan :)
>

Thanks. Just had a jump out of nowhere to 128 from 78, my highest
number in weeks. So I still have to watch it, though it may've just
been a cortisol driven rise.

Susan
From: Alan S on 9 Oct 2008 20:54
On Thu, 09 Oct 2008 19:44:14 -0400, Susan
<nevermind(a)nomail.com> wrote:

>It's exactly one month since I had sinus surgery involving opening
>blocked sinuses that have been infected and blocked for years.
<snipped for brevity, but read in full>

That's an amazing improvement. Another form of helpful
surgery to be considered beside bariatric?

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
--
d&e, metformin 2000 mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com (Be Smart, Be Skeptical)
dLife http://tinyurl.com/54get5 (Diabetes Diet Wars)
From: Julie Bove on 9 Oct 2008 21:47

"Susan" <nevermind(a)nomail.com> wrote in message
news:6l7ja5Fb277oU1(a)mid.individual.net...
> x-no-archive: yes
>
> It's exactly one month since I had sinus surgery involving opening blocked
> sinuses that have been infected and blocked for years. One effect on the
> endocrine system of infections, acute or chronic, is that they raise the
> stress hormone, cortisol. Cortisol, among other things, is a known cause
> of diabetes. It raises blood glucose. In fact, if you have dawn
> phenomenon, it's due to excess cortisol and not enough insulin production
> to counter the effect of the cortisol.
>
> I'm posting this because my bg has been absurdly low, both fasting, pre
> meal and post meal, increasingly for the past week or so, as my healing
> has progressed and my recovery from surgery is further along.
>
> My bg at this very moment is 78. My fastings have been 84-91 for the past
> week or ten days. I ate regular ice cream for the first time in years the
> other day, took a short walk and tested at one and two hours: 97 and 104.
> I've never had higher two hour bg in my life, btw, but still, mighty low.
> I've tested after vacation meals in which I had a little starch or starchy
> squash, for instance, stuff that used to spike me beyond all reason.
> Still in the 90s one hour after eating.
>
> My appetite is hugely diminished since the infections have been gone, too,
> I can almost go without eating, except I get hungry in the evenings, and a
> little woozy if I go til the afternoon before eating something. My meals
> are quite small, I feel full very quickly and I don't get tempted by my
> chocolate stash any more, rarely touch it.
>
> So, who knows if I'm still diabetic? I know I'm not IR with a fasting
> insulin of 5.7. Next HbA1c should be interesting; I'd crept up all the
> way from 5.2 to 5.9% due to high cortisol.
>
> I will be doing a lot of blood, urine and saliva testing in the coming
> months to see where my Cushing's status stands. I still have to eat less
> than 1000 calories per day to lose weight, and quickly gain on much more
> than that. I will also have a human growth hormone stimulation test when
> I go back to Calif. to see my endo in the coming months.
>
> Summary: blood glucose of 76-104 pretty much in the 80s between meals in
> recent weeks til today.
>
> No matter what, I'll continue to eat zero starch because I think a high
> carb diet causes cancer, CVD, insulin resistance and a whole host of bad
> things, so I won't be tempting fate.
>
> Wierd science!

How very interesting. I remember having the sinus infection from hell.
Lasted about two months. I was living on cheese, meat, eggs, green beans
and lettuce and still couldn't get my BG below 200.

We used to have a poster here (Charles Evans?) whose wife tested diabetic
when her thyroid was out of whack. But once under control, so was her BG.


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