From: Worn Out Retread on
>>
>>I had this "flash-back" effect for several years after leaving my job
>>(forced out on medical grounds). I would wake up in the middle of the
>>night
>>in a cold sweat and total panic until I realized that I was no longer in
>>that situation.
>>
> Bloody hell! I have very vivid flash backs of my old job. Some to
> do with "clocking in and out". That industrial dispute lasted a
> week but it is seared into my memory. The other is a non memory but
> my nightmares are when all "my" (all 44 of them) computers all fail.
> It never happened but 12 years on I still wake up in a cold sweat
> about it.
>
> I was also retired on medical grounds.
>
> Simon

Some thing just can't be forgiven and forgotten no matter how hard you try.
I wish that part of the brain could be removed.

(((((((((((Simon)))))))))))
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cheap and easy and past my best before date




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From: MsMonarchdancer on
On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 17:24:55 -0500, highanxiety <highanxiety2006(a)gmail.com>
wrote:

<gently snipped>

::I feel like I'm looking for sympathy just posting about it and
::actually that might even make it worse if I get that. I just wonder if
::this is normal and if anyone else has ever been through this before.

No one would ever think that. What you went through was extremely traumatic
and it's perfectly understandable that you are experiencing flashbacks and
stress over this. I think this is very normal and to be expected at this
point. I think we heal faster physically......the emotional healing will take
more time. As time goes on.......your memories of this terrible event in your
life will start to fade.

::Has anyone had this after a bad accident or illness and is this a
::normal reaction? I suppose it is. I wish I could just brush it aside
::and get on with my recovery but I find myself feeling sorry for myself
::too much. I may have a tendency to over dramatize things but it would
::be hard to OVER dramatize what I've been through with that embolism.

Yes, this has happened to me. I was very sick in '87 after gallbladder
surgery......I was in the hospital for close to three weeks and was told I was
lucky to be alive. I had a nasogastric tube, etc. While it was nothing
compared to what you went through.......it did traumatize me for awhile. I did
the "what ifs" for a long time and replayed the event over and over in my
mind.

::Any advice or thoughts would be appreciated. I just wish none of it
::had ever happened. I try to be positive and just concentrate on today
::and the fact I'm home, I'm climbing stairs, I'm even driving. I hope
::that this phase for me doesn't last. I hate it when a new memory pops
::into my mind and I have to relive the bad stuff.

I think it would be a good idea to talk to your therapist about your feelings.
You can always vent here whenever you need to as well. We will listen and we
care! I am so thrilled to hear how well you are doing. You have come a long
way baby :)

When a painful memory pops into your head.....acknowledge it and gently nudge
it away with a happy memory (like being home) or look at a pic of one of your
grandbabies. It's normal for these memories to pop into your head. The more
you fight them or demand they not be there.....the more they will try to
intrude.

Wishing you peace and healing.
(((((Sally)))))


Love Jackie


~*~Time heals all wounds, unless you pick at them~*~

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From: Mary on
"Worn Out Retread" <newdoverman(a)yahoo.ca> wrote in message
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> >>
> >> I had this "flash-back" effect for several years after leaving my job
> >> (forced out on medical grounds). I would wake up in the middle of the
> > night
> >> in a cold sweat and total panic until I realized that I was no longer
in
> >> that situation.
> >
> > That happened to my son in law too, though he was laid off after 20
years
> > at
> > the same company. That was 3 years ago. He's in his 40's so had to take
a
> > job that was below his potential because they needed the money. He is
> > still
> > at that same job but totally frustrated. Its hard to get jobs here. It
> > might
> > be a big city, but that doesn't mean you can get the kind of work you
want
> > or were in before if you got laid off. Even when you are just in your
40's
> > it gets harder. I feel sorry for him. He was very upset and still is. He
> > went to a doctor at first but him and my daughter don't go to doctors as
> > often as they should.
>
> This "globalized economy" (corporate screwing of people making a decent
> salary) sending jobs to lower paying localities, really hurts people like
> your son-in-law. It can't be anything other than frustrating having clawed
> one's way "up the ladder" only to be turfed. (if that was the case) In the
> Niagara area auto workers and steel workers have really been hit hard and
it
> is really difficult to go from a decent wage job to flipping burgers at
the
> local greasy spoon just to survive.
>
> It is a physical and mental "body blow."
>
> >> This lasted for quite a few years and my doctor was quite a good help
> >> with
> >> this.
> >>
> >> Good luck. This isn't fun stuff to go through.
> >>
> >> In my opinion this is something like PTSD.
> >
> > It is something like that, but for me at least, in my own experience, I
> > found that illness even serious, was not nearly as bad as other
> > experiences
> > that happened to me in my life. They can still haunt me 25 years later,
> > though they are not as strong. Also to consider is peoples' coping
> > abilities. Mine are good if my emotions are not involved, but once they
> > get
> > involved, depending on how I view the situation, I do not cope well
about
> > certain things.We all view things differently. We are all the same, yet
so
> > different. :>)
> >
> > Mary
>
> I agree with you 100% here. If the emotions are left out it is better
(still
> not easy but better) than when the emotions come into play. When that
> happens all hell breaks loose.

Its only certain kinds of emotions where I don't cope as well. Losses of
people, especially in my family are really tough for me to cope with due I
am sure to the early death of my father when I was very young. It gave me
unrealistic and puzzling ideas about death. No one explained to kids in
these days about death. My mother brought us up and she was a good parent,
but she had to work to make ends meet, so was not home a lot. Some other
losses are hard for me as well, marriage breakup almost did me in. I can
cope with most other emotions OK, and don't have a lot of general anxiety
or panic attacks, but I tend to exagerrate some sitatuions which causes me
to have anxiety. I get very worried if anyone in my family becomes quite
ill. Its like I react to some things but not others. Depends if they touch
my buttons or not. I mainly only have anxiety in certain situations.
Depression is more of a problem than anxiety for me..

> ((((((((((((Mary)))))))))))))

Thanks Ron.

Mary

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From: Z.Beeblebrox on
You were through hell!!!
And you're back!!!
I think that's awesome in itself! It shows how strong you are.

Stay positive!

-z-

"highanxiety" <highanxiety2006(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
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>I didn't remember this ever being discussed in here, so I thought I'd
> bounce it off you all and see what you have to say.
>
> My health is on the mend. I saw my doctor and all my blood work came
> back good and I'm getting stronger. The worst seems to be behind me.
>
> But I have flashbacks to when I was very ill and in the hospital and I
> start to think about what *could* have happened as well as some of the
> worst parts when I was sick, and I get very scared. It's very
> upsetting.
>
> I feel like I'm looking for sympathy just posting about it and
> actually that might even make it worse if I get that. I just wonder if
> this is normal and if anyone else has ever been through this before.
>
> I had bad times. I got pneumonia and had a hard time with my feeding
> tube. It became dislodged and they had to take it out and put it back
> in - twice. Which mean a tube shoved down my nose to my stomach. Weeks
> of being unable to talk and having to write notes and gesture. Just
> being completely helpless to do much at all.
>
> I have pushed back a lot of those memories but they come back and I
> think about them and it was a scary thing. I know my family and
> friends were scared too, and just the idea that I was in ICU for a
> whole month - I've been through hell guys.
>
> Has anyone had this after a bad accident or illness and is this a
> normal reaction? I suppose it is. I wish I could just brush it aside
> and get on with my recovery but I find myself feeling sorry for myself
> too much. I may have a tendency to over dramatize things but it would
> be hard to OVER dramatize what I've been through with that embolism.
>
> Any advice or thoughts would be appreciated. I just wish none of it
> had ever happened. I try to be positive and just concentrate on today
> and the fact I'm home, I'm climbing stairs, I'm even driving. I hope
> that this phase for me doesn't last. I hate it when a new memory pops
> into my mind and I have to relive the bad stuff.
>
> Thanks for listening. You all are the best. I don't know what I'd do
> without such supportive wonderful people like you all.
>
> Love,
>
> Sally
>
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From: Mary on
"Simon" <SimonFromLondon(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 22:11:37 -0500, "Mary" <non(a)invalid.ddd> wrote:
>
> {...]
>
> >> Bloody hell! I have very vivid flash backs of my old job. Some to
> >> do with "clocking in and out". That industrial dispute lasted a
> >> week but it is seared into my memory. The other is a non memory but
> >> my nightmares are when all "my" (all 44 of them) computers all fail.
> >> It never happened but 12 years on I still wake up in a cold sweat
> >> about it.
> >
> >You don't have 44 computers do you?
> >
> No *I* never had 44 computers of my own. They were what my employer
> called "mission critical" and belonged to them. I was responsible
> for them and on call for a few others. I also had some computers
> which I hid from my employer because the were not in the "plan".
> The hidden computers did the real work!

I won't even ask about hidden computers >) - 44 computers are a lot of
computers.

> >> I was also retired on medical grounds.
> >
> >But you are still young aren't you?
> >
> I like to think that I am still young and I was much younger then.

You are still young as far as I remember.

> "Medical retirement" from a government job in the UK can be a
> convenient way of getting employer/employee to part company in an
> almost civilised manner when the relationship has broken down. Only
> almost civilised <g>. They could have accommodated my panic attacks
> which is all that I asked for but instead they used them as a reason
> to be rid of me. In the end after about a year of bartering the
> money offer was too good to turn down. I still smile when I see the
> pay cheque from them each month. Yes I did get a good deal :-)

Well, at least you got something good out of it. You have another job
though, don't you? I doubt the Canadian govt. would give you a medical
retirement and give you a money offer though I don't know anybody personally
who had panic attacks and got a medical retirement. I did know of one guy
who got a medical retirement because he had Aids virus though the virus
wasn't active. He was around 45.

> I still have panic attacks. Less than back then though. I guess my
> panic attacks are just a bad roll of the dice.

Yeah. At least having less is better than more :>)

Mary

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