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From: Clinton on 20 Oct 2005 12:11 letsconnect wrote: > drkulacz(a)optonline.net wrote: > > > You people do not want to know the data so you do not look. > > Actually, I did look and couldn't find the data you're referring to. If > there are any controlled studies which confirm Price's findings, the > NCBI is keeping them under wraps... I don't think anyone said all Price's experiments had been replicated exactly. And Prices's focal theory is one small aspect of this controversy. Apparently many of Price's expriments involved using rabbits and inducing disease in the rabbits with RC that were actually sewn on their backs. Probably difficult to exactly replicate that kind of study in a humane way in this day and age. Did you look at Haley's site? I took a quick look at: http://www.altcorp.com/AffinityLaboratory/sterilerct.htm The first thing is recent research showing how all RC are not sterile. Haley has done a lot of research in this area.
From: letsconnect on 20 Oct 2005 12:42 Clinton wrote: > > Did you look at Haley's site? I took a quick look at: > > http://www.altcorp.com/AffinityLaboratory/sterilerct.htm > > The first thing is recent research showing how all RC are > not sterile. Haley has done a lot of research in this > area. I don't think anyone doubts that not *all* RCs are sterile. From the link: "The microbiological analysis carried out in this study after endodontic treatment demonstrated the efficacy of the therapeutic procedures in reducing the microbial population present in previously infected root canals. No obligate anaerobic bacteria were recovered after treatment."
From: Tony Bad on 20 Oct 2005 14:06 "letsconnect" <letsconnect(a)myway.com> wrote in message news:1129826561.544776.111490(a)g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > Clinton wrote: > > > > Did you look at Haley's site? I took a quick look at: > > > > http://www.altcorp.com/AffinityLaboratory/sterilerct.htm > > > > The first thing is recent research showing how all RC are > > not sterile. Haley has done a lot of research in this > > area. > > > I don't think anyone doubts that not *all* RCs are sterile. From the > link: > > "The microbiological analysis carried out in this study after > endodontic treatment demonstrated the efficacy of the therapeutic > procedures in reducing the microbial population present in previously > infected root canals. No obligate anaerobic bacteria were recovered > after treatment." > What part of the body IS sterile? http://textbookofbacteriology.net/normalflora.html The key question is can we function and remain healthy despite this flora? T
From: Clinton on 20 Oct 2005 14:08 letsconnect wrote: > Clinton wrote: > > > > Did you look at Haley's site? I took a quick look at: > > > > http://www.altcorp.com/AffinityLaboratory/sterilerct.htm > > > > The first thing is recent research showing how all RC are > > not sterile. Haley has done a lot of research in this > > area. > > > I don't think anyone doubts that not *all* RCs are sterile. From the > link: > > "The microbiological analysis carried out in this study after > endodontic treatment demonstrated the efficacy of the therapeutic > procedures in reducing the microbial population present in previously > infected root canals. No obligate anaerobic bacteria were recovered > after treatment." I'm not sure what "obligate bacteria" means, but right below that which you conviently snipped (either addedd by Haley or part of the original discussion) "interactions, are able to promote a decrease in the anaerobic population present at those sites (9). If on the one hand, the results of this study confirm the effectiveness of endodontic treatment in reducing the microbial population, on the other hand they also show the permanence of viable microorganisms inside the root canals due to their survival after treatment, contamination during the different manipulation phases or even due to the penetration of microorganisms from the oral cavity through inadequate temporary sealing. Initially, aerobic bacteria are rarely found in infected root canals but may be introduced into the canal during treatment (28), as observed for Psuedomonas, which was recovered from one canal after chemomechanical preparation and the use" We could have snipping wars all day, snipping the parts of one paper that seem to favor our view, and ignoring what is written just below it. This is ridiculous. It is also ridiculous to ask for large "controlled" studies when guess who? probably hasn't done any meaningful research on this for 50 years. I personally never had a RC, nor am i an expert in root canals. I'm just saying that there is research and controversy out there.
From: Mark & Steven Bornfeld on 20 Oct 2005 14:18
letsconnect wrote: > Clinton wrote: > >>Did you look at Haley's site? I took a quick look at: >> >>http://www.altcorp.com/AffinityLaboratory/sterilerct.htm >> >>The first thing is recent research showing how all RC are >>not sterile. Haley has done a lot of research in this >>area. > > > > I don't think anyone doubts that not *all* RCs are sterile. From the > link: > > "The microbiological analysis carried out in this study after > endodontic treatment demonstrated the efficacy of the therapeutic > procedures in reducing the microbial population present in previously > infected root canals. No obligate anaerobic bacteria were recovered > after treatment." > Interestingly, in my school days we ALWAYS cultured root canals. We were not allowed to obturate until we achieved a negative culture. Now, I would be the last to proclaim that a negative culture means there are no bacteria hiding in the dentinal tubules. But it seems intuitive to me that a negative culture implies a lower bacterial load. But we stopped doing cultures, because repeated studies showed no improvement in clinical outcomes, so long as good technique were followed. Steve -- Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS http://www.dentaltwins.com Brooklyn, NY 718-258-5001 |