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From: ironjustice on 14 Jul 2008 20:12 On Jul 14, 4:42 pm, "Paul T. Holland" <pholl...(a)bellatlantic.net> wrote: long winded whack << What part of stay off **my** threads don't ya understand .. ? ----------------------------------- Free radicals and antioxidants in primary fibromyalgia: an oxidative stress disorder? Journal Rheumatology International Original Article Free radicals and antioxidants in primary fibromyalgia: an oxidative stress disorder? Selda Bagis1, 4 , Lulufer Tamer2, Gunsah Sahin1, Ramazan Bilgin3, Hayal Guler1, Bahadir Ercan2 and Canan Erdogan1 (1) Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation Department, Mersin University Medical School, Mersin, Turkey (2) Biochemistry Department, Mersin University Medical School, Mersin, Turkey (3) Biochemistry Department, Art and Science Faculty, Cukurova University, Adana, Turkey (4) Guzelyali mah. 15.sok. Bilgin apt., Kat:6 No:11, 01120 Adana, Turkey Received: 24 March 2003 Accepted: 31 October 2003 Published online: 20 December 2003 Abstract The role of free radicals in fibromyalgia is controversial. In this study, 85 female patients with primary fibromyalgia and 80 age-, height-, and weight-matched healthy women were evaluated for oxidant/antioxidant balance. Malondialdehyde is a toxic metabolite of lipid peroxidation used as a marker of free radical damage. Superoxide dismutase is an intracellular antioxidant enzyme and shows antioxidant capacity. Pain was assessed by visual analog scale. Tender points were assessed by palpation. Age, smoking, body mass index (BMI), and duration of disease were also recorded. Malondialdehyde levels were significantly higher and superoxide dismutase levels significantly lower in fibromyalgic patients than controls. Age, BMI, smoking, and duration of disease did not affect these parameters. We found no correlation between pain and number of tender points. In conclusion, oxidant/antioxidant balances were changed in fibromyalgia. Increased free radical levels may be responsible for the development of fibromyalgia. These findings may support the hypothesis of fibromyalgia as an oxidative disorder. Keywords Antioxidant - Fibromyalgia - Oxidant Publisher Springer Berlin / Heidelberg ISSN 0172-8172 (Print) 1437-160X (Online) Issue Volume 25, Number 3 / April, 2005 Category Original Article DOI 10.1007/s00296-003-0427-8 Who loves ya. Tom Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh Man Is A Herbivore! http://tinyurl.com/4rq595 DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
From: Paul T. Holland on 14 Jul 2008 20:34 "ironjustice(a)aol.com" wrote: > > On Jul 14, 4:42 pm, "Paul T. Holland" <pholl...(a)bellatlantic.net> > wrote: long winded whack << > > What part of stay off **my** threads don't ya understand .. ? > ----------------------------------- since they are not 'your' threads your objection(s) are moot perhaps if you refrained from being so silly you would have fewer posts that you find objectionable?
From: Paul T. Holland on 15 Jul 2008 15:46 lol "ironjustice(a)aol.com" wrote: > > On Jul 14, 2:00 pm, "Paul T. Holland" <pholl...(a)bellatlantic.net> > wrote: long winded whack << > > You cannot be atempting to talk to me .. well now tommy - you may be onto something here: am i atempting [sic] to talk to you? actually, no, i am not. i am however writing - and then posting said written message to a newsgroup. > > You cannot seem to understand simple hmmmmm - let us atempt [sic] to understand this phrase tommy is - to his credit - commenting upon appearance and his inference, rather than proclaiming someone's intent - kudos - major step towards rational discourse that understood however, still leaves the word 'simple' - what is the reader to discern from his usage of this word? does he perhaps mean that 'he', tommy, is simple? that he is presenting a 'simple' concept? or, is it rather that he is 'simply' rephrasing his already rejected demand... >.. directions .. gosh tommy - you have instructed so many folk, myself included, with various directions - what we could do with others, with ourselves, with objects or animals - including of course, that you wish to be left alone there is just one - tiny - unavoidable - problem with that you keep doing what you do - inviting response each and every time you write such rediculous and silly nonsense is is therefore a reasonable conclusion [returning to the first part of this message of yours] that any reader should find that you are, indeed, simple > > Who loves ya. > Tom > > Jesus Was A Vegetarian! > http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh > > Man Is A Herbivore! > http://tinyurl.com/4rq595 > > DEAD PEOPLE WALKING > http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
From: ironjustice on 16 Jul 2008 18:58 On Jul 15, 12:46 pm, "Paul T. Holland" <pholl...(a)bellatlantic.net> wrote: long winded whack<< You cannot be atempting to talk to me .. You cannot seem to understand simple .. directions .. Who loves ya. Tom Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh Man Is A Herbivore! http://tinyurl.com/4rq595 DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
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