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From: Roger Conroy on 26 Mar 2008 13:35 "maximovies" <lou.grantt(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:35eaa360-8ffa-49b4-a28f-bfab255d851c(a)e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com... > On Mar 25, 5:44 pm, "Burgerman" <burger...(a)ntlworld.com> wrote: >> "maximovies" <lou.gra...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> >> news:8dd98c24-4883-4afc-b96b-791e07e4c10e(a)i7g2000prf.googlegroups.com... >> >> >> >> > Hi, I'll soon be buying a new power chair, and for the first time, >> > paying for it out of my own pocket. So I get to choose brand, style, >> > size, etc. >> >> > But I don't want to empty my bank account so I'd like to get what I >> > need but not go overboard. >> >> > Basically, I need a rear wheel drive chair with an electric or >> > hydraulic adjustable height seat. Cloth seat, not vinyl. High back. I >> > don't do a lot of off road stuff, it's mostly indoors and in the van. >> >> > Can anyone recommend a chair and/or dealer? I'm in California, but >> > with internet, I think I can order from anywhere stateside, can't I? >> >> > Thanks for any help you can give. I've had the wrong chairs for so >> > many years. I'd sure like to get a right one for a change. >> >> > Lou >> >> I would suggest an F55s Quickie would be ideal. Its what I use. Mines >> modified a bit but basically its like >> >> http://www.wheelchairdriver.com/images-powerchair/1.jpg >> >> http://www.wheelchairdriver.com/images-powerchair/2.jpg >> >> http://www.wheelchairdriver.com/images-powerchair/3.jpg >> >> http://www.wheelchairdriver.com/images-powerchair/4.jpg >> >> http://www.wheelchairdriver.com/images-powerchair/5.jpg >> this... >> >> Unfortunately you cant get it where you are though I think. So look for >> something >> thats as short as possible (reverse to a wall, your head should touch not >> the powerchair ideally! It does with my slightly modded F55) with 56ah >> minimum up to 75ah batteries and 70 amp >> or bigger controller. >> >> Make sure its 6mph or above or simple things like >> crossing a big road will become very scary! >> >> People walk at 4mph. People jog at 5 to 6 mph. When a road crossing or >> long >> street appears 6mph feels increadibly slow. >> >> 4 pole motors (or brushless) are >> also pretty important for serious outdoor use or curbs and ramps can be >> difficult and difficult to control. >> >> Anything thats less than these basic is >> really pretty useless outdoors. >> >> Or indoors if you want to use it all day. >> >> Smaller batteries combined with 6mph or more is hopeless. 4mph is better >> for >> range due to lower current and lower gearing with say 40 amp batteries >> indoors only. >> >> As for size indoors my F55 is both narrower and shorter than my manual >> sports chair. It just doesent look it! It can get into and turn around in >> a >> smaller space than my manual chairs can too. Most powerchairs cant. This >> includes mid and front drive chairs especially. >> >> You MUST try and test as many as poss. All will need reprogramming to get >> some semblence of control regardless! So dont worry about how control >> "feels" on test. > > Thanks for the advice. I've checked your site now and then over the > years. I'd love to have one like your F55s, but I can't find it listed > anywhere here in the US. Does the seat elevate too? > > I think "reprogramming" is way more than I can do myself. I read some > of your stuff, which sounds really complicated to me. I need something > that will work for me "out of the box." Mostly. It would be nice if > someone could make a custom chair here in SoCal. > > Lou You clearly didn't look very hard! LOL Quickie has dealers absolutely everywhere in the US! See http://www.sunrisemedical.com/ and go to "Find a Dealer" The dealer will program the controls to suit your requirements. Roger P.S. Google is your friend!
From: Burgerman on 26 Mar 2008 15:58 "maximovies" <lou.grantt(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:35eaa360-8ffa-49b4-a28f-bfab255d851c(a)e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com... > On Mar 25, 5:44 pm, "Burgerman" <burger...(a)ntlworld.com> wrote: >> "maximovies" <lou.gra...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> >> news:8dd98c24-4883-4afc-b96b-791e07e4c10e(a)i7g2000prf.googlegroups.com... >> >> >> >> > Hi, I'll soon be buying a new power chair, and for the first time, >> > paying for it out of my own pocket. So I get to choose brand, style, >> > size, etc. >> >> > But I don't want to empty my bank account so I'd like to get what I >> > need but not go overboard. >> >> > Basically, I need a rear wheel drive chair with an electric or >> > hydraulic adjustable height seat. Cloth seat, not vinyl. High back. I >> > don't do a lot of off road stuff, it's mostly indoors and in the van. >> >> > Can anyone recommend a chair and/or dealer? I'm in California, but >> > with internet, I think I can order from anywhere stateside, can't I? >> >> > Thanks for any help you can give. I've had the wrong chairs for so >> > many years. I'd sure like to get a right one for a change. >> >> > Lou >> >> I would suggest an F55s Quickie would be ideal. Its what I use. Mines >> modified a bit but basically its like >> >> http://www.wheelchairdriver.com/images-powerchair/1.jpg >> >> http://www.wheelchairdriver.com/images-powerchair/2.jpg >> >> http://www.wheelchairdriver.com/images-powerchair/3.jpg >> >> http://www.wheelchairdriver.com/images-powerchair/4.jpg >> >> http://www.wheelchairdriver.com/images-powerchair/5.jpg >> this... >> >> Unfortunately you cant get it where you are though I think. So look for >> something >> thats as short as possible (reverse to a wall, your head should touch not >> the powerchair ideally! It does with my slightly modded F55) with 56ah >> minimum up to 75ah batteries and 70 amp >> or bigger controller. >> >> Make sure its 6mph or above or simple things like >> crossing a big road will become very scary! >> >> People walk at 4mph. People jog at 5 to 6 mph. When a road crossing or >> long >> street appears 6mph feels increadibly slow. >> >> 4 pole motors (or brushless) are >> also pretty important for serious outdoor use or curbs and ramps can be >> difficult and difficult to control. >> >> Anything thats less than these basic is >> really pretty useless outdoors. >> >> Or indoors if you want to use it all day. >> >> Smaller batteries combined with 6mph or more is hopeless. 4mph is better >> for >> range due to lower current and lower gearing with say 40 amp batteries >> indoors only. >> >> As for size indoors my F55 is both narrower and shorter than my manual >> sports chair. It just doesent look it! It can get into and turn around in >> a >> smaller space than my manual chairs can too. Most powerchairs cant. This >> includes mid and front drive chairs especially. >> >> You MUST try and test as many as poss. All will need reprogramming to get >> some semblence of control regardless! So dont worry about how control >> "feels" on test. > > Thanks for the advice. I've checked your site now and then over the > years. I'd love to have one like your F55s, but I can't find it listed > anywhere here in the US. Does the seat elevate too? It does if you order the right specs! And tilt, leg rest elevator, back angle adjustments etc but it all ads weight and money... There must be a similar chair available over there? F55s are in Aus, UK, and a few other places like south Africa but not in the US. > > I think "reprogramming" is way more than I can do myself. I read some > of your stuff, which sounds really complicated to me. I need something > that will work for me "out of the box." Mostly. It would be nice if > someone could make a custom chair here in SoCal. The programming is essential on every chair I ever tested, They all "work" in a very flawed super safety nazi sluggish way though. Its easy to reprogram though. Just sounds complicated. If you dont do it you get a sloppy sluggish chair that is at the same time difficult to control with delay in the turns and worse when you try to stop turning... The result is usually that you cant hit a doorway without losing a finger or two unless you slow right down and then it gets so sluggish it wont turn like its stuck in sand. Most people think this is normal behaviour and dont realise how much better it could be though. > > Lou -- DIY Nitrous www.nitrous.info Powerchairs www.powerchair-review.co.uk Disabled vehicle conversion www.wheelchairdriver.com Engines www.more-power.info
From: Burgerman on 26 Mar 2008 15:57 "Roger Conroy" <rogerconroy.nospam(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:fse1hj$e20$1(a)registered.motzarella.org... > > "maximovies" <lou.grantt(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > news:35eaa360-8ffa-49b4-a28f-bfab255d851c(a)e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com... >> On Mar 25, 5:44 pm, "Burgerman" <burger...(a)ntlworld.com> wrote: >>> "maximovies" <lou.gra...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >>> >>> news:8dd98c24-4883-4afc-b96b-791e07e4c10e(a)i7g2000prf.googlegroups.com... >>> >>> >>> >>> > Hi, I'll soon be buying a new power chair, and for the first time, >>> > paying for it out of my own pocket. So I get to choose brand, style, >>> > size, etc. >>> >>> > But I don't want to empty my bank account so I'd like to get what I >>> > need but not go overboard. >>> >>> > Basically, I need a rear wheel drive chair with an electric or >>> > hydraulic adjustable height seat. Cloth seat, not vinyl. High back. I >>> > don't do a lot of off road stuff, it's mostly indoors and in the van. >>> >>> > Can anyone recommend a chair and/or dealer? I'm in California, but >>> > with internet, I think I can order from anywhere stateside, can't I? >>> >>> > Thanks for any help you can give. I've had the wrong chairs for so >>> > many years. I'd sure like to get a right one for a change. >>> >>> > Lou >>> >>> I would suggest an F55s Quickie would be ideal. Its what I use. Mines >>> modified a bit but basically its like >>> >>> http://www.wheelchairdriver.com/images-powerchair/1.jpg >>> >>> http://www.wheelchairdriver.com/images-powerchair/2.jpg >>> >>> http://www.wheelchairdriver.com/images-powerchair/3.jpg >>> >>> http://www.wheelchairdriver.com/images-powerchair/4.jpg >>> >>> http://www.wheelchairdriver.com/images-powerchair/5.jpg >>> this... >>> >>> Unfortunately you cant get it where you are though I think. So look for >>> something >>> thats as short as possible (reverse to a wall, your head should touch >>> not >>> the powerchair ideally! It does with my slightly modded F55) with 56ah >>> minimum up to 75ah batteries and 70 amp >>> or bigger controller. >>> >>> Make sure its 6mph or above or simple things like >>> crossing a big road will become very scary! >>> >>> People walk at 4mph. People jog at 5 to 6 mph. When a road crossing or >>> long >>> street appears 6mph feels increadibly slow. >>> >>> 4 pole motors (or brushless) are >>> also pretty important for serious outdoor use or curbs and ramps can be >>> difficult and difficult to control. >>> >>> Anything thats less than these basic is >>> really pretty useless outdoors. >>> >>> Or indoors if you want to use it all day. >>> >>> Smaller batteries combined with 6mph or more is hopeless. 4mph is better >>> for >>> range due to lower current and lower gearing with say 40 amp batteries >>> indoors only. >>> >>> As for size indoors my F55 is both narrower and shorter than my manual >>> sports chair. It just doesent look it! It can get into and turn around >>> in a >>> smaller space than my manual chairs can too. Most powerchairs cant. This >>> includes mid and front drive chairs especially. >>> >>> You MUST try and test as many as poss. All will need reprogramming to >>> get >>> some semblence of control regardless! So dont worry about how control >>> "feels" on test. >> >> Thanks for the advice. I've checked your site now and then over the >> years. I'd love to have one like your F55s, but I can't find it listed >> anywhere here in the US. Does the seat elevate too? >> >> I think "reprogramming" is way more than I can do myself. I read some >> of your stuff, which sounds really complicated to me. I need something >> that will work for me "out of the box." Mostly. It would be nice if >> someone could make a custom chair here in SoCal. >> >> Lou > > You clearly didn't look very hard! LOL > Quickie has dealers absolutely everywhere in the US! > See http://www.sunrisemedical.com/ and go to "Find a Dealer" > The dealer will program the controls to suit your requirements. > > Roger > P.S. Google is your friend! > No F55s powerchairs in the US they dont send them there (made here in the UK) as far as I know. Just a bunch of part time indoor chairs and a couple of over long full size outdoor ones with nuge batteries hanging out the back...
From: maximovies on 28 Mar 2008 23:37
On Mar 26, 12:57 pm, "Burgerman" <burger...(a)ntlworld.com> wrote: > "Roger Conroy" <rogerconroy.nos...(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > > news:fse1hj$e20$1(a)registered.motzarella.org... > > > > > > > "maximovies" <lou.gra...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > >news:35eaa360-8ffa-49b4-a28f-bfab255d851c(a)e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com... > >> On Mar 25, 5:44 pm, "Burgerman" <burger...(a)ntlworld.com> wrote: > >>> "maximovies" <lou.gra...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > >>>news:8dd98c24-4883-4afc-b96b-791e07e4c10e(a)i7g2000prf.googlegroups.com... > > >>> > Hi, I'll soon be buying a new power chair, and for the first time, > >>> > paying for it out of my own pocket. So I get to choose brand, style, > >>> > size, etc. > > >>> > But I don't want to empty my bank account so I'd like to get what I > >>> > need but not go overboard. > > >>> > Basically, I need a rear wheel drive chair with an electric or > >>> > hydraulic adjustable height seat. Cloth seat, not vinyl. High back. I > >>> > don't do a lot of off road stuff, it's mostly indoors and in the van. > > >>> > Can anyone recommend a chair and/or dealer? I'm in California, but > >>> > with internet, I think I can order from anywhere stateside, can't I? > > >>> > Thanks for any help you can give. I've had the wrong chairs for so > >>> > many years. I'd sure like to get a right one for a change. > > >>> > Lou > > >>> I would suggest an F55s Quickie would be ideal. Its what I use. Mines > >>> modified a bit but basically its like > > >>>http://www.wheelchairdriver.com/images-powerchair/1.jpg > > >>>http://www.wheelchairdriver.com/images-powerchair/2.jpg > > >>>http://www.wheelchairdriver.com/images-powerchair/3.jpg > > >>>http://www.wheelchairdriver.com/images-powerchair/4.jpg > > >>>http://www.wheelchairdriver.com/images-powerchair/5.jpg > >>> this... > > >>> Unfortunately you cant get it where you are though I think. So look for > >>> something > >>> thats as short as possible (reverse to a wall, your head should touch > >>> not > >>> the powerchair ideally! It does with my slightly modded F55) with 56ah > >>> minimum up to 75ah batteries and 70 amp > >>> or bigger controller. > > >>> Make sure its 6mph or above or simple things like > >>> crossing a big road will become very scary! > > >>> People walk at 4mph. People jog at 5 to 6 mph. When a road crossing or > >>> long > >>> street appears 6mph feels increadibly slow. > > >>> 4 pole motors (or brushless) are > >>> also pretty important for serious outdoor use or curbs and ramps can be > >>> difficult and difficult to control. > > >>> Anything thats less than these basic is > >>> really pretty useless outdoors. > > >>> Or indoors if you want to use it all day. > > >>> Smaller batteries combined with 6mph or more is hopeless. 4mph is better > >>> for > >>> range due to lower current and lower gearing with say 40 amp batteries > >>> indoors only. > > >>> As for size indoors my F55 is both narrower and shorter than my manual > >>> sports chair. It just doesent look it! It can get into and turn around > >>> in a > >>> smaller space than my manual chairs can too. Most powerchairs cant. This > >>> includes mid and front drive chairs especially. > > >>> You MUST try and test as many as poss. All will need reprogramming to > >>> get > >>> some semblence of control regardless! So dont worry about how control > >>> "feels" on test. > > >> Thanks for the advice. I've checked your site now and then over the > >> years. I'd love to have one like your F55s, but I can't find it listed > >> anywhere here in the US. Does the seat elevate too? > > >> I think "reprogramming" is way more than I can do myself. I read some > >> of your stuff, which sounds really complicated to me. I need something > >> that will work for me "out of the box." Mostly. It would be nice if > >> someone could make a custom chair here in SoCal. > > >> Lou > > > You clearly didn't look very hard! LOL > > Quickie has dealers absolutely everywhere in the US! > > Seehttp://www.sunrisemedical.com/and go to "Find a Dealer" > > The dealer will program the controls to suit your requirements. > > > Roger > > P.S. Google is your friend! > > No F55s powerchairs in the US they dont send them there (made here in the > UK) as far as I know. Just a bunch of part time indoor chairs and a couple > of over long full size outdoor ones with nuge batteries hanging out the > back... I found something that looks promising. What do you think of this? http://www.motionconcepts.com/pdf/2007/ip_ultralow/pdf It's on this page: http://www.motionconcepts.com/pp_ultralow.html Thanks. Lou |