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From: Burgerman on 29 Mar 2008 09:37 "maximovies" <lou.grantt(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:7a455f65-ce6f-4bac-be21-3fe46d43bf2d(a)i12g2000prf.googlegroups.com... > On Mar 26, 12:57 pm, "Burgerman" <burger...(a)ntlworld.com> wrote: >> "Roger Conroy" <rogerconroy.nos...(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >> >> news:fse1hj$e20$1(a)registered.motzarella.org... >> >> >> >> >> >> > "maximovies" <lou.gra...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> >news:35eaa360-8ffa-49b4-a28f-bfab255d851c(a)e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com... >> >> On Mar 25, 5:44 pm, "Burgerman" <burger...(a)ntlworld.com> wrote: >> >>> "maximovies" <lou.gra...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> >> >>>news:8dd98c24-4883-4afc-b96b-791e07e4c10e(a)i7g2000prf.googlegroups.com... >> >> >>> > Hi, I'll soon be buying a new power chair, and for the first time, >> >>> > paying for it out of my own pocket. So I get to choose brand, >> >>> > style, >> >>> > size, etc. >> >> >>> > But I don't want to empty my bank account so I'd like to get what I >> >>> > need but not go overboard. >> >> >>> > Basically, I need a rear wheel drive chair with an electric or >> >>> > hydraulic adjustable height seat. Cloth seat, not vinyl. High back. >> >>> > I >> >>> > don't do a lot of off road stuff, it's mostly indoors and in the >> >>> > van. >> >> >>> > Can anyone recommend a chair and/or dealer? I'm in California, but >> >>> > with internet, I think I can order from anywhere stateside, can't >> >>> > I? >> >> >>> > Thanks for any help you can give. I've had the wrong chairs for so >> >>> > many years. I'd sure like to get a right one for a change. >> >> >>> > Lou >> >> >>> I would suggest an F55s Quickie would be ideal. Its what I use. Mines >> >>> modified a bit but basically its like >> >> >>>http://www.wheelchairdriver.com/images-powerchair/1.jpg >> >> >>>http://www.wheelchairdriver.com/images-powerchair/2.jpg >> >> >>>http://www.wheelchairdriver.com/images-powerchair/3.jpg >> >> >>>http://www.wheelchairdriver.com/images-powerchair/4.jpg >> >> >>>http://www.wheelchairdriver.com/images-powerchair/5.jpg >> >>> this... >> >> >>> Unfortunately you cant get it where you are though I think. So look >> >>> for >> >>> something >> >>> thats as short as possible (reverse to a wall, your head should touch >> >>> not >> >>> the powerchair ideally! It does with my slightly modded F55) with >> >>> 56ah >> >>> minimum up to 75ah batteries and 70 amp >> >>> or bigger controller. >> >> >>> Make sure its 6mph or above or simple things like >> >>> crossing a big road will become very scary! >> >> >>> People walk at 4mph. People jog at 5 to 6 mph. When a road crossing >> >>> or >> >>> long >> >>> street appears 6mph feels increadibly slow. >> >> >>> 4 pole motors (or brushless) are >> >>> also pretty important for serious outdoor use or curbs and ramps can >> >>> be >> >>> difficult and difficult to control. >> >> >>> Anything thats less than these basic is >> >>> really pretty useless outdoors. >> >> >>> Or indoors if you want to use it all day. >> >> >>> Smaller batteries combined with 6mph or more is hopeless. 4mph is >> >>> better >> >>> for >> >>> range due to lower current and lower gearing with say 40 amp >> >>> batteries >> >>> indoors only. >> >> >>> As for size indoors my F55 is both narrower and shorter than my >> >>> manual >> >>> sports chair. It just doesent look it! It can get into and turn >> >>> around >> >>> in a >> >>> smaller space than my manual chairs can too. Most powerchairs cant. >> >>> This >> >>> includes mid and front drive chairs especially. >> >> >>> You MUST try and test as many as poss. All will need reprogramming to >> >>> get >> >>> some semblence of control regardless! So dont worry about how >> >>> control >> >>> "feels" on test. >> >> >> Thanks for the advice. I've checked your site now and then over the >> >> years. I'd love to have one like your F55s, but I can't find it listed >> >> anywhere here in the US. Does the seat elevate too? >> >> >> I think "reprogramming" is way more than I can do myself. I read some >> >> of your stuff, which sounds really complicated to me. I need something >> >> that will work for me "out of the box." Mostly. It would be nice if >> >> someone could make a custom chair here in SoCal. >> >> >> Lou >> >> > You clearly didn't look very hard! LOL >> > Quickie has dealers absolutely everywhere in the US! >> > Seehttp://www.sunrisemedical.com/and go to "Find a Dealer" >> > The dealer will program the controls to suit your requirements. >> >> > Roger >> > P.S. Google is your friend! >> >> No F55s powerchairs in the US they dont send them there (made here in the >> UK) as far as I know. Just a bunch of part time indoor chairs and a >> couple >> of over long full size outdoor ones with nuge batteries hanging out the >> back... > > I found something that looks promising. What do you think of this? > > http://www.motionconcepts.com/pdf/2007/ip_ultralow/pdf > > It's on this page: http://www.motionconcepts.com/pp_ultralow.html > > Thanks. > > Lou A seat?
From: maximovies on 29 Mar 2008 18:40 On Mar 29, 6:37 am, "Burgerman" <burger...(a)ntlworld.com> wrote: > "maximovies" <lou.gra...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:7a455f65-ce6f-4bac-be21-3fe46d43bf2d(a)i12g2000prf.googlegroups.com... > > > > > On Mar 26, 12:57 pm, "Burgerman" <burger...(a)ntlworld.com> wrote: > >> "Roger Conroy" <rogerconroy.nos...(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > > >>news:fse1hj$e20$1(a)registered.motzarella.org... > > >> > "maximovies" <lou.gra...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > >> >news:35eaa360-8ffa-49b4-a28f-bfab255d851c(a)e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com... > >> >> On Mar 25, 5:44 pm, "Burgerman" <burger...(a)ntlworld.com> wrote: > >> >>> "maximovies" <lou.gra...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > >> >>>news:8dd98c24-4883-4afc-b96b-791e07e4c10e(a)i7g2000prf.googlegroups.com... > > >> >>> > Hi, I'll soon be buying a new power chair, and for the first time, > >> >>> > paying for it out of my own pocket. So I get to choose brand, > >> >>> > style, > >> >>> > size, etc. > > >> >>> > But I don't want to empty my bank account so I'd like to get what I > >> >>> > need but not go overboard. > > >> >>> > Basically, I need a rear wheel drive chair with an electric or > >> >>> > hydraulic adjustable height seat. Cloth seat, not vinyl. High back. > >> >>> > I > >> >>> > don't do a lot of off road stuff, it's mostly indoors and in the > >> >>> > van. > > >> >>> > Can anyone recommend a chair and/or dealer? I'm in California, but > >> >>> > with internet, I think I can order from anywhere stateside, can't > >> >>> > I? > > >> >>> > Thanks for any help you can give. I've had the wrong chairs for so > >> >>> > many years. I'd sure like to get a right one for a change. > > >> >>> > Lou > > >> >>> I would suggest an F55s Quickie would be ideal. Its what I use. Mines > >> >>> modified a bit but basically its like > > >> >>>http://www.wheelchairdriver.com/images-powerchair/1.jpg > > >> >>>http://www.wheelchairdriver.com/images-powerchair/2.jpg > > >> >>>http://www.wheelchairdriver.com/images-powerchair/3.jpg > > >> >>>http://www.wheelchairdriver.com/images-powerchair/4.jpg > > >> >>>http://www.wheelchairdriver.com/images-powerchair/5.jpg > >> >>> this... > > >> >>> Unfortunately you cant get it where you are though I think. So look > >> >>> for > >> >>> something > >> >>> thats as short as possible (reverse to a wall, your head should touch > >> >>> not > >> >>> the powerchair ideally! It does with my slightly modded F55) with > >> >>> 56ah > >> >>> minimum up to 75ah batteries and 70 amp > >> >>> or bigger controller. > > >> >>> Make sure its 6mph or above or simple things like > >> >>> crossing a big road will become very scary! > > >> >>> People walk at 4mph. People jog at 5 to 6 mph. When a road crossing > >> >>> or > >> >>> long > >> >>> street appears 6mph feels increadibly slow. > > >> >>> 4 pole motors (or brushless) are > >> >>> also pretty important for serious outdoor use or curbs and ramps can > >> >>> be > >> >>> difficult and difficult to control. > > >> >>> Anything thats less than these basic is > >> >>> really pretty useless outdoors. > > >> >>> Or indoors if you want to use it all day. > > >> >>> Smaller batteries combined with 6mph or more is hopeless. 4mph is > >> >>> better > >> >>> for > >> >>> range due to lower current and lower gearing with say 40 amp > >> >>> batteries > >> >>> indoors only. > > >> >>> As for size indoors my F55 is both narrower and shorter than my > >> >>> manual > >> >>> sports chair. It just doesent look it! It can get into and turn > >> >>> around > >> >>> in a > >> >>> smaller space than my manual chairs can too. Most powerchairs cant. > >> >>> This > >> >>> includes mid and front drive chairs especially. > > >> >>> You MUST try and test as many as poss. All will need reprogramming to > >> >>> get > >> >>> some semblence of control regardless! So dont worry about how > >> >>> control > >> >>> "feels" on test. > > >> >> Thanks for the advice. I've checked your site now and then over the > >> >> years. I'd love to have one like your F55s, but I can't find it listed > >> >> anywhere here in the US. Does the seat elevate too? > > >> >> I think "reprogramming" is way more than I can do myself. I read some > >> >> of your stuff, which sounds really complicated to me. I need something > >> >> that will work for me "out of the box." Mostly. It would be nice if > >> >> someone could make a custom chair here in SoCal. > > >> >> Lou > > >> > You clearly didn't look very hard! LOL > >> > Quickie has dealers absolutely everywhere in the US! > >> > Seehttp://www.sunrisemedical.com/andgo to "Find a Dealer" > >> > The dealer will program the controls to suit your requirements. > > >> > Roger > >> > P.S. Google is your friend! > > >> No F55s powerchairs in the US they dont send them there (made here in the > >> UK) as far as I know. Just a bunch of part time indoor chairs and a > >> couple > >> of over long full size outdoor ones with nuge batteries hanging out the > >> back... > > > I found something that looks promising. What do you think of this? > > >http://www.motionconcepts.com/pdf/2007/ip_ultralow/pdf > > > It's on this page:http://www.motionconcepts.com/pp_ultralow.html > > > Thanks. > > > Lou > > A seat? The whole chair, low to the ground, tiltable, and possibly able to be elevated, too. Also programmable? It seems to fit the criteria, but I have a history of misunderstanding when I see things like this so thought perhaps another pair of eyes might help. Lou
From: Burgerman on 30 Mar 2008 15:52 "maximovies" <lou.grantt(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:b634066f-5680-49da-bd74-1f854a29eb7c(a)s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com... > On Mar 29, 6:37 am, "Burgerman" <burger...(a)ntlworld.com> wrote: >> "maximovies" <lou.gra...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> >> news:7a455f65-ce6f-4bac-be21-3fe46d43bf2d(a)i12g2000prf.googlegroups.com... >> >> >> >> > On Mar 26, 12:57 pm, "Burgerman" <burger...(a)ntlworld.com> wrote: >> >> "Roger Conroy" <rogerconroy.nos...(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >> >> >>news:fse1hj$e20$1(a)registered.motzarella.org... >> >> >> > "maximovies" <lou.gra...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> >> >news:35eaa360-8ffa-49b4-a28f-bfab255d851c(a)e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com... >> >> >> On Mar 25, 5:44 pm, "Burgerman" <burger...(a)ntlworld.com> wrote: >> >> >>> "maximovies" <lou.gra...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> >> >> >>>news:8dd98c24-4883-4afc-b96b-791e07e4c10e(a)i7g2000prf.googlegroups.com... >> >> >> >>> > Hi, I'll soon be buying a new power chair, and for the first >> >> >>> > time, >> >> >>> > paying for it out of my own pocket. So I get to choose brand, >> >> >>> > style, >> >> >>> > size, etc. >> >> >> >>> > But I don't want to empty my bank account so I'd like to get >> >> >>> > what I >> >> >>> > need but not go overboard. >> >> >> >>> > Basically, I need a rear wheel drive chair with an electric or >> >> >>> > hydraulic adjustable height seat. Cloth seat, not vinyl. High >> >> >>> > back. >> >> >>> > I >> >> >>> > don't do a lot of off road stuff, it's mostly indoors and in the >> >> >>> > van. >> >> >> >>> > Can anyone recommend a chair and/or dealer? I'm in California, >> >> >>> > but >> >> >>> > with internet, I think I can order from anywhere stateside, >> >> >>> > can't >> >> >>> > I? >> >> >> >>> > Thanks for any help you can give. I've had the wrong chairs for >> >> >>> > so >> >> >>> > many years. I'd sure like to get a right one for a change. >> >> >> >>> > Lou >> >> >> >>> I would suggest an F55s Quickie would be ideal. Its what I use. >> >> >>> Mines >> >> >>> modified a bit but basically its like >> >> >> >>>http://www.wheelchairdriver.com/images-powerchair/1.jpg >> >> >> >>>http://www.wheelchairdriver.com/images-powerchair/2.jpg >> >> >> >>>http://www.wheelchairdriver.com/images-powerchair/3.jpg >> >> >> >>>http://www.wheelchairdriver.com/images-powerchair/4.jpg >> >> >> >>>http://www.wheelchairdriver.com/images-powerchair/5.jpg >> >> >>> this... >> >> >> >>> Unfortunately you cant get it where you are though I think. So >> >> >>> look >> >> >>> for >> >> >>> something >> >> >>> thats as short as possible (reverse to a wall, your head should >> >> >>> touch >> >> >>> not >> >> >>> the powerchair ideally! It does with my slightly modded F55) with >> >> >>> 56ah >> >> >>> minimum up to 75ah batteries and 70 amp >> >> >>> or bigger controller. >> >> >> >>> Make sure its 6mph or above or simple things like >> >> >>> crossing a big road will become very scary! >> >> >> >>> People walk at 4mph. People jog at 5 to 6 mph. When a road >> >> >>> crossing >> >> >>> or >> >> >>> long >> >> >>> street appears 6mph feels increadibly slow. >> >> >> >>> 4 pole motors (or brushless) are >> >> >>> also pretty important for serious outdoor use or curbs and ramps >> >> >>> can >> >> >>> be >> >> >>> difficult and difficult to control. >> >> >> >>> Anything thats less than these basic is >> >> >>> really pretty useless outdoors. >> >> >> >>> Or indoors if you want to use it all day. >> >> >> >>> Smaller batteries combined with 6mph or more is hopeless. 4mph is >> >> >>> better >> >> >>> for >> >> >>> range due to lower current and lower gearing with say 40 amp >> >> >>> batteries >> >> >>> indoors only. >> >> >> >>> As for size indoors my F55 is both narrower and shorter than my >> >> >>> manual >> >> >>> sports chair. It just doesent look it! It can get into and turn >> >> >>> around >> >> >>> in a >> >> >>> smaller space than my manual chairs can too. Most powerchairs >> >> >>> cant. >> >> >>> This >> >> >>> includes mid and front drive chairs especially. >> >> >> >>> You MUST try and test as many as poss. All will need reprogramming >> >> >>> to >> >> >>> get >> >> >>> some semblence of control regardless! So dont worry about how >> >> >>> control >> >> >>> "feels" on test. >> >> >> >> Thanks for the advice. I've checked your site now and then over the >> >> >> years. I'd love to have one like your F55s, but I can't find it >> >> >> listed >> >> >> anywhere here in the US. Does the seat elevate too? >> >> >> >> I think "reprogramming" is way more than I can do myself. I read >> >> >> some >> >> >> of your stuff, which sounds really complicated to me. I need >> >> >> something >> >> >> that will work for me "out of the box." Mostly. It would be nice if >> >> >> someone could make a custom chair here in SoCal. >> >> >> >> Lou >> >> >> > You clearly didn't look very hard! LOL >> >> > Quickie has dealers absolutely everywhere in the US! >> >> > Seehttp://www.sunrisemedical.com/andgo to "Find a Dealer" >> >> > The dealer will program the controls to suit your requirements. >> >> >> > Roger >> >> > P.S. Google is your friend! >> >> >> No F55s powerchairs in the US they dont send them there (made here in >> >> the >> >> UK) as far as I know. Just a bunch of part time indoor chairs and a >> >> couple >> >> of over long full size outdoor ones with nuge batteries hanging out >> >> the >> >> back... >> >> > I found something that looks promising. What do you think of this? >> >> >http://www.motionconcepts.com/pdf/2007/ip_ultralow/pdf >> >> > It's on this page:http://www.motionconcepts.com/pp_ultralow.html >> >> > Thanks. >> >> > Lou >> >> A seat? > > The whole chair, low to the ground, tiltable, and possibly able to be > elevated, too. Also programmable? > > It seems to fit the criteria, but I have a history of misunderstanding > when I see things like this so thought perhaps another pair of eyes > might help. > > Lou Those people only make seats.
From: maximovies on 30 Mar 2008 16:45 On Mar 30, 12:52 pm, "Burgerman" <burger...(a)ntlworld.com> wrote: > "maximovies" <lou.gra...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:b634066f-5680-49da-bd74-1f854a29eb7c(a)s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com... > > > > > On Mar 29, 6:37 am, "Burgerman" <burger...(a)ntlworld.com> wrote: > >> "maximovies" <lou.gra...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > >>news:7a455f65-ce6f-4bac-be21-3fe46d43bf2d(a)i12g2000prf.googlegroups.com... > > >> > On Mar 26, 12:57 pm, "Burgerman" <burger...(a)ntlworld.com> wrote: > >> >> "Roger Conroy" <rogerconroy.nos...(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > > >> >>news:fse1hj$e20$1(a)registered.motzarella.org... > > >> >> > "maximovies" <lou.gra...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > >> >> >news:35eaa360-8ffa-49b4-a28f-bfab255d851c(a)e10g2000prf.googlegroups.com... > >> >> >> On Mar 25, 5:44 pm, "Burgerman" <burger...(a)ntlworld.com> wrote: > >> >> >>> "maximovies" <lou.gra...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > >> >> >>>news:8dd98c24-4883-4afc-b96b-791e07e4c10e(a)i7g2000prf.googlegroups.com... > > >> >> >>> > Hi, I'll soon be buying a new power chair, and for the first > >> >> >>> > time, > >> >> >>> > paying for it out of my own pocket. So I get to choose brand, > >> >> >>> > style, > >> >> >>> > size, etc. > > >> >> >>> > But I don't want to empty my bank account so I'd like to get > >> >> >>> > what I > >> >> >>> > need but not go overboard. > > >> >> >>> > Basically, I need a rear wheel drive chair with an electric or > >> >> >>> > hydraulic adjustable height seat. Cloth seat, not vinyl. High > >> >> >>> > back. > >> >> >>> > I > >> >> >>> > don't do a lot of off road stuff, it's mostly indoors and in the > >> >> >>> > van. > > >> >> >>> > Can anyone recommend a chair and/or dealer? I'm in California, > >> >> >>> > but > >> >> >>> > with internet, I think I can order from anywhere stateside, > >> >> >>> > can't > >> >> >>> > I? > > >> >> >>> > Thanks for any help you can give. I've had the wrong chairs for > >> >> >>> > so > >> >> >>> > many years. I'd sure like to get a right one for a change. > > >> >> >>> > Lou > > >> >> >>> I would suggest an F55s Quickie would be ideal. Its what I use. > >> >> >>> Mines > >> >> >>> modified a bit but basically its like > > >> >> >>>http://www.wheelchairdriver.com/images-powerchair/1.jpg > > >> >> >>>http://www.wheelchairdriver.com/images-powerchair/2.jpg > > >> >> >>>http://www.wheelchairdriver.com/images-powerchair/3.jpg > > >> >> >>>http://www.wheelchairdriver.com/images-powerchair/4.jpg > > >> >> >>>http://www.wheelchairdriver.com/images-powerchair/5.jpg > >> >> >>> this... > > >> >> >>> Unfortunately you cant get it where you are though I think. So > >> >> >>> look > >> >> >>> for > >> >> >>> something > >> >> >>> thats as short as possible (reverse to a wall, your head should > >> >> >>> touch > >> >> >>> not > >> >> >>> the powerchair ideally! It does with my slightly modded F55) with > >> >> >>> 56ah > >> >> >>> minimum up to 75ah batteries and 70 amp > >> >> >>> or bigger controller. > > >> >> >>> Make sure its 6mph or above or simple things like > >> >> >>> crossing a big road will become very scary! > > >> >> >>> People walk at 4mph. People jog at 5 to 6 mph. When a road > >> >> >>> crossing > >> >> >>> or > >> >> >>> long > >> >> >>> street appears 6mph feels increadibly slow. > > >> >> >>> 4 pole motors (or brushless) are > >> >> >>> also pretty important for serious outdoor use or curbs and ramps > >> >> >>> can > >> >> >>> be > >> >> >>> difficult and difficult to control. > > >> >> >>> Anything thats less than these basic is > >> >> >>> really pretty useless outdoors. > > >> >> >>> Or indoors if you want to use it all day. > > >> >> >>> Smaller batteries combined with 6mph or more is hopeless. 4mph is > >> >> >>> better > >> >> >>> for > >> >> >>> range due to lower current and lower gearing with say 40 amp > >> >> >>> batteries > >> >> >>> indoors only. > > >> >> >>> As for size indoors my F55 is both narrower and shorter than my > >> >> >>> manual > >> >> >>> sports chair. It just doesent look it! It can get into and turn > >> >> >>> around > >> >> >>> in a > >> >> >>> smaller space than my manual chairs can too. Most powerchairs > >> >> >>> cant. > >> >> >>> This > >> >> >>> includes mid and front drive chairs especially. > > >> >> >>> You MUST try and test as many as poss. All will need reprogramming > >> >> >>> to > >> >> >>> get > >> >> >>> some semblence of control regardless! So dont worry about how > >> >> >>> control > >> >> >>> "feels" on test. > > >> >> >> Thanks for the advice. I've checked your site now and then over the > >> >> >> years. I'd love to have one like your F55s, but I can't find it > >> >> >> listed > >> >> >> anywhere here in the US. Does the seat elevate too? > > >> >> >> I think "reprogramming" is way more than I can do myself. I read > >> >> >> some > >> >> >> of your stuff, which sounds really complicated to me. I need > >> >> >> something > >> >> >> that will work for me "out of the box." Mostly. It would be nice if > >> >> >> someone could make a custom chair here in SoCal. > > >> >> >> Lou > > >> >> > You clearly didn't look very hard! LOL > >> >> > Quickie has dealers absolutely everywhere in the US! > >> >> > Seehttp://www.sunrisemedical.com/andgoto "Find a Dealer" > >> >> > The dealer will program the controls to suit your requirements. > > >> >> > Roger > >> >> > P.S. Google is your friend! > > >> >> No F55s powerchairs in the US they dont send them there (made here in > >> >> the > >> >> UK) as far as I know. Just a bunch of part time indoor chairs and a > >> >> couple > >> >> of over long full size outdoor ones with nuge batteries hanging out > >> >> the > >> >> back... > > >> > I found something that looks promising. What do you think of this? > > >> >http://www.motionconcepts.com/pdf/2007/ip_ultralow/pdf > > >> > It's on this page:http://www.motionconcepts.com/pp_ultralow.html > > >> > Thanks. > > >> > Lou > > >> A seat? > > > The whole chair, low to the ground, tiltable, and possibly able to be > > elevated, too. Also programmable? > > > It seems to fit the criteria, but I have a history of misunderstanding > > when I see things like this so thought perhaps another pair of eyes > > might help. > > > Lou > > Those people only make seats. See? I usually frak it up somehow. So I guess I'll call them and find out for sure. I'll probably have to buy one of the chairs on their list so that their seating unit will fit on it. Or something. Oh well, thanks anyway. Lou
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