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From: Health Concerns on 23 Mar 2007 21:16
On the Road to Damascus wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 10:13:25 -0800, Nancy <gnn4everZ(a)surewest.net>
> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 00:50:05 GMT, Health Concerns
>> <health742concerns(a)earthlink.net> etched permanently into the ether:
>>
>> Nancy said:
>>>> If you have to lie, then I wouldn't do it. Be honest, you might be
>>>> surprised. What's all this racial stuff? Are you in the USA?
>>> Yes - in the USA. Where are you? She goes to a liberal college down
>>> South, and there are still some racial issues that you can get caught up
>>> on. She is dating a short, fat, dumpy black guy who acts like a
>>> pimpdaddy. Do you not think that her friends and classmates will notice
>>> this and think that something is a little out of wack?
>> I'm in California, but my ISP gives it away, because Surewest only provides
>> service to northern California and parts of Nevada and Arizona.
>>
>> I understand the race thing, I don't like it, but I understand it. An old
>> plantation town, eh?
>
> All PC issues aside, it is appropriate in this circumstance to mention
> race, IMO. Same race joinings have enough problems, but the reality is
> that when you see a black/white couple there is a much higher
> probability of some underlying pathology. I'm sure in different parts
> of the country this is true to greater or lesser degrees, but it is by
> no means limited to the south, and it is a product of this country's
> racial history.

Yes - from what I have read, there is an underlying pathology for let's
say a young white girl only dating black men, and black men only having
emotionless sexual hookups with white women.

There is a lot of absentee father issues with black males, who end up
repeating the cycle with their own kids. They just seem to want to have
as much sex as possible, then not deal with the children that result -
until they get old enough to go hang out with and hit on other girls
together.

Of course, the black men want to have nothing to do with their own
daughters, because they really don't see women other than their own
mothers as anything other than someone to screw.

Rap culture seems to celebrate the whole racist misogynistic,
bootie-shaking culture. And now rich white men make billions off
selling it to young white kids as the latest cool thing.
>
> To break it down to simple terms, you have a situation where, for
> example, a white girl sees a black man ONLY because he is black, not
> because of who he is, and not because she is attracted to black men.
> It's a case of the boy from the wrong side of the tracks taken to
> extremes. And in this case you have to suspect that the situation goes
> beyond wanting to strike out in some way against the parents...there
> is a very good chance that in a typical alcoholic fashion she is doing
> this because on some level she feels it is degrading, and she wishes
> to harm herself.
>
> On the flip side, many black men see having a white girl as a status
> symbol, and any white girl will do. In that context the "pimp daddy"
> observation was important.
>
> Her immediate problem is alcoholism. While she may in fact be bipolar,
> the original poster has not described a single symptom that can not be
> attributed to that downward spiral of self destruction. And your
> advice is correct...he needs to distance himself from her. If she one
> day reaches out her hand for help he can be there, but for now she
> will only hurt and use everyone around her.

I agree - she should be getting off the sauce ASAP. One of the problems
is that the colleges are as much at fault as anyone else is. They
should be having a zero tolerance policy and lock up anyone who sells or
provides alcohol to someone who is underage.

The alcohol industry makes about half it's money selling to adults with
drinking problems and all underage drinkers. So don't buy into the
bullshit about how the alcohol industry encourages legal & moderate
drinking. They wouldn't be making half their profits if it wasn't for
alcoholics and underage kids.
>
>> What her friends and acquaintances notice depends on when they met her. If a
>> person knew her before her troubles, they should notice a change in behavior.

The same people don't see her all that often. I was about the only
person last year and the first half of this year who saw her often
enough to know what was going on. I think it was a strategy on her part
to not let anyone get close enough to know or see that she had these
problems.

And of course now she is lying to the abusive black male about many
things so that she can keep up the facade to have access to the alcohol
that he can provide her.
>>
>> If a person met her during a transition, that person may or may not notice a
>> change in her behavior.
>>
>> If a person met her yesterday, that person would only know her from yesterday
>> and probably would not notice a change.
>>
>> I'd give 50/50 odds of either way.
>>
>> Nancy


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