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From: John Wesley on 14 Jan 2006 15:47 In article <dpr6v4$ttr$1(a)reader01.news.esat.net>, tea(a)signguestbook.ie says... > Contact info included at end of post for Australian > Environment Minister and Japanese Prime Minister. > > The Slaughter of an Exhausted Whale Calf > > 06/01/2006 > > I knew they ate cats, I never knew anyone would want to eat a whale. Wonder what whale taste like?
From: Murky Jester on 14 Jan 2006 23:14 John Wesley wrote: > In article <dpr6v4$ttr$1(a)reader01.news.esat.net>, tea(a)signguestbook.ie > says... >> Contact info included at end of post for Australian >> Environment Minister and Japanese Prime Minister. >> >> The Slaughter of an Exhausted Whale Calf >> >> 06/01/2006 >> >> > > I knew they ate cats, I never knew anyone would want to eat a whale. > Wonder what whale taste like? Very nice, actually. Even raw, it is quite tender and juicy. Murky Jester
From: Floyd L. Davidson on 14 Jan 2006 23:58 Murky Jester <jester.of.murk(a)anarchy.com> wrote: >John Wesley wrote: >> In article <dpr6v4$ttr$1(a)reader01.news.esat.net>, >> tea(a)signguestbook.ie says... >>> Contact info included at end of post for Australian >>> Environment Minister and Japanese Prime Minister. >>> >>> The Slaughter of an Exhausted Whale Calf >>> >>> 06/01/2006 >>> >>> >> I knew they ate cats, I never knew anyone would want to eat a >> whale. Wonder what whale taste like? > >Very nice, actually. Even raw, it is quite tender and juicy. Inupiat people have a big long word for a nice 40 foot bowhead whale... and when asked what it means exactly, they say "butterball turkey!". Actually there are differences with different whales. People here do not hunt grey whales, because 80,000 pounds of bad tasting whale meat isn't worth the effort (when 80,000 pounds of Bowhead whale is a lot easier to catch). -- Floyd L. Davidson <http://www.apaflo.com/floyd_davidson> Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) floyd(a)apaflo.com
From: Murky Jester on 15 Jan 2006 01:55 Floyd L. Davidson wrote: > Murky Jester <jester.of.murk(a)anarchy.com> wrote: >> John Wesley wrote: >>> In article <dpr6v4$ttr$1(a)reader01.news.esat.net>, >>> tea(a)signguestbook.ie says... >>>> Contact info included at end of post for Australian >>>> Environment Minister and Japanese Prime Minister. >>>> >>>> The Slaughter of an Exhausted Whale Calf >>>> >>>> 06/01/2006 >>>> >>>> >>> I knew they ate cats, I never knew anyone would want to eat a >>> whale. Wonder what whale taste like? >> Very nice, actually. Even raw, it is quite tender and juicy. > > Inupiat people have a big long word for a nice 40 foot bowhead > whale... and when asked what it means exactly, they say > "butterball turkey!". > > Actually there are differences with different whales. People > here do not hunt grey whales, because 80,000 pounds of bad > tasting whale meat isn't worth the effort (when 80,000 pounds of > Bowhead whale is a lot easier to catch). Good point. I have only had minke, which was quite nice. I have not had it cooked, only raw. Murky Jester
From: Dave on 15 Jan 2006 18:34
pearl wrote: > "Dave" <prplbn(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1137025949.258890.55760(a)g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > > > Mark wrote: > > > > > Thanks for that info. If you look at the figures in the first row on the first > > > table, 106000 patients died from "adverse drug reactions" > > > > Let's put this figure in context. > > It is a very conservative estimate, from just one year. OK. Even so. > > > How many people have been saved by same drugs? > > 'Deaths per year (US) 6 > ------------------------------------------------------- > heart disease 709,894 > cancer 551,833 > stroke 166,028 > diabetes 68,662 > Chronic Liver Disease/Cirrhosis 26,219 > high blood pressure 17,964 > ------------------------------------------------------ > .. > Number of Americans Living with Diet- and > Inactivity-Related Diseases > ------------------------------------------------------- > Seriously Overweight/Obese9 113,360,000 > High Blood Pressure9 50,000,000 > Diabetes10 15,700,000 > Coronary Heart Disease9 12,600,000 > Osteoporosis7 10,000,000 > Cancer11 8,900,000 > Stroke9 4,600,000] > ------------------------------------------------------- > ..' > http://www.cspinet.org/nutritionpolicy/nutrition_policy.html > > How many could have "been saved", and enjoy good > health, if they had been given sound nutritional advice? Several but giving sound nutritional advice does not prevent us providing high standards of medical care. We can do both. > '.. disease rates were significantly associated within a > range of dietary plant food composition that suggested > an absence of a disease prevention threshold. That is, > the closer a diet is to an all-plant foods diet, the greater > will be the reduction in the rates of these diseases.' > http://www.news.cornell.edu/releases/Nov98/thermogenesis_paper.html > > > > - drugs that > > > have passed animal testing. And yet the pharm industry still uses animals > > > to test our drugs despite that worrying fact. I can barely believe the stupidity > > > of it all. > > > > How many people have died from drugs that would have been licensed but > > for animal testing? > > How many could have been saved by said drugs? > > As they're all tested on animals, we can't know, but misleading > results from animal tests have delayed use of some medicines. Sure but the fact that animal experiments are <100% reliable does not invalidate them scientifically. > > > How many people have been saved as a result of medical advances > > made at the expense of laboratory animals? How far could medical > > science have advanced without animals? > > Do the answers explain the apparent "stupidity"? > > "I cannot name one single case in which experiments on animals may > have led to a useful result." > -Dr med. Philippe Grin, G.P., Video Interview with CIVIS, July 1 1986. > > "I am of the opinion that all experiments on animals should be abolished > because they only lead us to error." > Dr Marie-Louise Griboval, April 1987. Hans Ruesch, One Thousand > Doctors (and many more) Against Vivisection. > > "As a physician, I am definitely opposed to animal experiments. They > are totally useless, they don't contribute in any way to progress of medicine." > Dr med. Jurg Kym, Physicians Have the Word, ATRA, December 1986. > Hans Ruesch, One Thousand Doctors (and many more) Against Vivisection. > > "My own conviction is that the study of human physiology by way of > experiments on animals is the most grotesque and fantastic error ever > committed in the whole range of human intellectual activity." > Dr G. F. Walker, Medical World, December 1933. Those quotes are not representative of the scientific community. Note I am not arguing in favour of animal testing and I support Naturewatch's call for a royal commission into the subject. http://www.naturewatch.org/campaigns/anex/RC_bgd.asp > http://www.health.org.nz/foreartl.html > http://www.health.org.nz/contents.html |