From: Joseph on
I've never posted here before; so hello everyone. I'm having a tough time,
and really need some help. First, I've been diagnosed with celiac disease
for over a decade. Just got diagnosed with Hashimoto's a couple of months
ago.

I've tried dessicated Thyroid (I'm in Canada), synthroid 25mcgs, synthroid
50mcgs (because it has no colour) which I was breaking into quarters. All of
these medications have given me digestive problems - belching, burning,
heartburn. So, I just started a compounded prescription this morning where
the Compound Pharmacist mixed the pure drug from the synthroid
w/microcrystalline cellulose in gelatin capsules. Well, I'm getting the same
digestive discomfort.

I'm scared I won't be able to treat my Hashimoto's at this rate. Has anyone
else had similar problems? Or does anyone have an answer to this? Thank you.


From: Alan B. Mac Farlane on
in article bKr9k.767$7%6.514(a)edtnps82, Joseph at jlmacdougall(a)eastlink.ca
wrote on 6/28/08 7:17 AM:

> All of
> these medications have given me digestive problems - belching, burning,
> heartburn


Hi Joseph.

I have the same problem with my gastric system getting used to thyroid
preparations ... I have no thyroid gland (surgery 1976) from malignant and
metastatic papillary follicular sarcoma. So I have to take synthyroid every
day to live ... or I start to die and have NDEs when it gets real bad.

Every time I got on or got on the synthyroid ... a month of digestive
problems.

What seems to be happening is that my flora and fauna bugs in the digestive
system, die off and a few are left (survival of the species and individual
variation) to propagate and take over going on the drug. Of course this
happens again going off the drug for a few months as required by medical
direction for cancer treatment such as an I-131 nuc med scan.

I stuck it out ... had to ... no other way around it for me.

I take a lot of yogurt in my diet ... 5 fruit smoothies with granola/nut
stuff in it are a favorite of mine.

As for treating Hashi's ... well there are lots of scientific trees to bark
up and get it done. There are people who USED to be Hashimotting along in
their life for a few years ... and now the Hashimoto is not longer
presenting clinically ... they are perhaps cured. Time always tells.

See what is going on with people who have fixed things so they go away and
you do not have to take drugs anymore ... as you are healthy.

Right now you are not healthy ... and have the learn what is going on with
the Defense Structure in making this up for you ... and how to make it go
away.

I would like to suggest that you look into traditional 5 element
accupuncture, moving the frozen emotion locked in the muscle memory of the
autonomic nervous system ... so as to get the bitter salty tears out of the
brain pain.

It is a simple comfortable process that hurts like hell ... lots of tears
and snot if you are doing it right.

All disease has to come out of the body ... as you were not born with this
as a constitutional issue like you were a Down's child for example. This
disease came into you ... and it can come out of you.

So ... if you want to get better there are things you must do to get better,
if you do not do them, you will not get better sorry to say.

If you live in L.A. and THINK you are in N.Y.C. and WANT to go to Chi-town
you are going to have a very hard time getting where you want to go ... just
on your own insistence.

Hope this is a help ...

sumbuddie wear blind sea

:)


From: amanita on
Joseph wrote:
> I've never posted here before; so hello everyone. I'm having a tough time,
> and really need some help. First, I've been diagnosed with celiac disease
> for over a decade. Just got diagnosed with Hashimoto's a couple of months
> ago.
>
> I've tried dessicated Thyroid (I'm in Canada), synthroid 25mcgs, synthroid
> 50mcgs (because it has no colour) which I was breaking into quarters. All of
> these medications have given me digestive problems - belching, burning,
> heartburn. So, I just started a compounded prescription this morning where
> the Compound Pharmacist mixed the pure drug from the synthroid
> w/microcrystalline cellulose in gelatin capsules. Well, I'm getting the same
> digestive discomfort.
>
> I'm scared I won't be able to treat my Hashimoto's at this rate. Has anyone
> else had similar problems? Or does anyone have an answer to this? Thank you.

I was diagnosed with IBS soon after starting thyroid meds. My digestive
system was never a problem before! I think many thyroid patients have
ongoing problems with digestion. Food intolerances seem to develop where
none existed before. Impaired carbohydrate metabolism seems to be one of
the main issues, so cutting down as much as possible on sugars and
starches can help.

As Alan said, gut flora imbalance could be the root problem. Eating lots
of yogurt can help to get, and keep, the gut flora under control. Look
for the ones with the most probiotics in, and preferably plain yogurt
with no added sugars or starches (thickening agents).

You may have an underlying infection that developed whilst your body was
not getting enough thyroid hormone. If the problem doesn't improve or
gets worse, a course of antibiotics may be the only way. Helicobacter
Pylori is a particularly stubborn infection that invades a weakened
immune system and really needs antibiotics to zap it.

One thing you definitely should not do is to stop taking the thyroid
meds. This will just leave your system wide open for any existing
infection to rapidly get worse.
From: Alan B. Mac Farlane on
in article aVN9k.136642$8k.107622(a)newsfe18.ams2, amanita at
tiredofspam(a)ntlworld.com wrote on 6/29/08 8:31 AM:

> As Alan said, gut flora imbalance could be the root problem.


I think the root problem is taking crank case oil for tummy absorption.

The stuff that REALLY WORKS ... is 2 double ought capsules of medical
marijuana ... about 4 grams of bud in powder form ready to ingest.

It really calms things down from all that speed in the gut twisting things
up ... and every morning is a breeze doing the daily constitutional. Truth
be told, eat three times a day ... go to the loo three times a day ... the
curse of a good diet.

But the crank case speed we are eating ... that is the shits mon !!!

It keeps me alive and it is best game in town ... so I play it ... but do it
my way.

To be is to do ... socrates

To do is to be ... de cartes.

do be do be do ... sinatra

sumbuddie has to make up a happy day

:)

From: Joseph on
Dear Alan B. Mac Farlane - I'd like to apologize for replying to you
personally : P re: Problems with Thyroid Medications. I didn't mean to do
that; but I meant to reply to this newsgroup. So, please ignore. I'm
learning how to do this stuff, and obviously doing a poor job. I'll repost
what I said to you. Again, I apologize. (Isn't brain fog a problem
w/thyroid? lol)

"Ooh, sorry for not replying sooner. See I kinda did the whole thing wrong -
my name actually isn't Joseph. I'm female and using someone named Joseph's
computer. : ) Please call me dee. Anyway, in a moment of panic I thought I
had deleted my whole post and didn't check back again.

So, since you've taken the time to try to help me (and my post is obviously
still here somewhere ; ) ), I have to say thank you. I definitely know my
flora is out of whack - with the celiac, and all. I have developed more
intolerances (besides gluten) in the last year, and it's when I became even
more sick, and I finally asked for the thyroid panel. I've been trying the
kefir, and the probiotics (the kefir just about burns my stomach out), so I
take breaks from it.

I've been doing some investigating, and apparently there's a connection
between not tolerating the meds and low iron. I've had low ferritin most of
my life. Zero when I was first diagnosed w/celiac, all the way up to a
whopping 21 now. Low RBC, too. So, I'm anemic - which is a problem with
getting my thyroid normalized, apparently.

Oh gosh, keep taking the medication? I know I have to do something - but I'm
telling you, it's hurts, and I feel worse on the medication. The only
medication I felt a bit of good from (my brain suddenly felt just a bit
clearer for awhile!) was the natural, dessicated thyroid, so I may try that
again. I just hope I don't burn a hole in my stomach or throat - the pain is
so bad! I was thinking of speaking to my doctor about trying to get my iron
up via iron injections, and then starting the meds. I'm lost, really.

One thing I have to ask (sorry so long) - are you saying if I keep on the
medication, other things will start to get better because I'm finally
normalizing my thyroid, and the candida/stomach problems will go away? Then,
my stomach will stop burning out on the meds?

Thanks again, I'll keep reading for any more suggestions you all have."


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