Problems with Thyroid Medications
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From: Dee on 5 Jul 2008 09:00 "Herman Family" <the_sawdust_place_no_underscore(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in message news:GhHbk.76818$xP2.70273(a)fe099.usenetserver.com... > I've never heard of thyroid being in a cream. I don't know if they can > make a cream of the right pH to hit the isoelectric point of the > medication. No, the pharmacist hadn't heard of it, either; but thought he check out the possibility anyway. He told me that they do use the synthetic thyroid in some creams, but only because it can't be absorbed into the body that way (because the molecules are large). I didn't get into why some creams have thyroid in it, though. It can be injected, > however. Basically, you dissolve the tablets in normal saline and inject > it. One important note is that the absorption rate for an injection is > different than from the intestine. You may find yourself overdosed. Oh, interesting. Yes, I thought I had read somewhere that 'back in the old days' thyroid was administered through injection. Good point about the absorption rate. Actually, I restarted my Thyroid (dessicated pig thyroid similar to the U.S.'s Armour) this morning; and dissolved it under my tongue (only swallowing a small amount). So, I'm imagining it goes right into the blood stream that way, too. I have heard that it's recommended to take the Armour sublingually anyway. > > You may also discover that after your body gets the better muscle tone > from being euthyroid, that you can tolerate the pills better. Would you mind explaining this? I am quite small in size (under a 100 lbs), so muscle tone would be nice. : ) > > Michael > > Michael >
From: Herman Family on 5 Jul 2008 17:17 "Dee" <jlmacdougall(a)eastlink.ca> wrote in message news:_fKbk.2069$1o6.1982(a)edtnps83... > > "Herman Family" > <the_sawdust_place_no_underscore(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in > message > news:GhHbk.76818$xP2.70273(a)fe099.usenetserver.com... >> I've never heard of thyroid being in a cream. I don't >> know if they can make a cream of the right pH to hit the >> isoelectric point of the medication. > > No, the pharmacist hadn't heard of it, either; but thought > he check out the possibility anyway. He told me that they > do use the synthetic thyroid in some creams, but only > because it can't be absorbed into the body that way > (because the molecules are large). I didn't get into why > some creams have thyroid in it, though. > > It can be injected, >> however. Basically, you dissolve the tablets in normal >> saline and inject it. One important note is that the >> absorption rate for an injection is different than from >> the intestine. You may find yourself overdosed. > > Oh, interesting. Yes, I thought I had read somewhere that > 'back in the old days' thyroid was administered through > injection. Good point about the absorption rate. Actually, > I restarted my Thyroid (dessicated pig thyroid similar to > the U.S.'s Armour) this morning; and dissolved it under my > tongue (only swallowing a small amount). So, I'm imagining > it goes right into the blood stream that way, too. I have > heard that it's recommended to take the Armour > sublingually anyway. >> >> You may also discover that after your body gets the >> better muscle tone from being euthyroid, that you can >> tolerate the pills better. > > Would you mind explaining this? I am quite small in size > (under a 100 lbs), so muscle tone would be nice. : ) >> >> Michael >> >> Michael >> > Incidentally, I would only consider injecting synthetics, not armour. If there are any odd proteins in the armour, you could have troubles. Michael
From: nrsmac on 6 Jul 2008 16:24 On Jul 4, 2:13 pm, "Dee" <jlmacdoug...(a)eastlink.ca> wrote: > I just wanted to let people know that I spoke to my compound pharmacist, and > I asked him to investigate whether the thyroid medication could be > administered via a patch. He was quite enthused by the idea; and he also > said he'd investigate a topical cream. > > I didn't mention it before now because I didn't want to get my hopes up, but > I spoke to him earlier, and he said that, unfortunately, the molecules are > too large to be absorbed by the skin. He's investigating injections right > now (at my suggestion)... Any thoughts on that? > > Meanwhile, at first he didn't think it was a great idea to take the > medication orally if it's causing me such pain; but he thinks I should give > it a try now (what's my alternative, afterall?), although he nor I am eager > about it. I'm wondering if my body doesn't see the thyroid hormone as 'the > enemy', which is why I've been having so many health problems, and which is > why it reacts so adversely to the medication. I realize I'm grasping at > straws at this point. I made a doctor's appointment for next week to discuss > my options again, too. Dee...I hear what you're saying. I've had horrible side effects and problems from the meds. I have tried them all and have no idea what to do???????????????
From: nrsmac on 6 Jul 2008 16:27 On Jul 5, 5:17 pm, "Herman Family" <the_sawdust_place_no_undersc...(a)frontiernet.net> wrote: > "Dee" <jlmacdoug...(a)eastlink.ca> wrote in message > > news:_fKbk.2069$1o6.1982(a)edtnps83... > > > > > > > > > "Herman Family" > > <the_sawdust_place_no_undersc...(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in > > message > >news:GhHbk.76818$xP2.70273(a)fe099.usenetserver.com... > >> I've never heard of thyroid being in a cream. I don't > >> know if they can make a cream of the right pH to hit the > >> isoelectric point of the medication. > > > No, the pharmacist hadn't heard of it, either; but thought > > he check out the possibility anyway. He told me that they > > do use the synthetic thyroid in some creams, but only > > because it can't be absorbed into the body that way > > (because the molecules are large). I didn't get into why > > some creams have thyroid in it, though. > > > It can be injected, > >> however. Basically, you dissolve the tablets in normal > >> saline and inject it. One important note is that the > >> absorption rate for an injection is different than from > >> the intestine. You may find yourself overdosed. > > > Oh, interesting. Yes, I thought I had read somewhere that > > 'back in the old days' thyroid was administered through > > injection. Good point about the absorption rate. Actually, > > I restarted my Thyroid (dessicated pig thyroid similar to > > the U.S.'s Armour) this morning; and dissolved it under my > > tongue (only swallowing a small amount). So, I'm imagining > > it goes right into the blood stream that way, too. I have > > heard that it's recommended to take the Armour > > sublingually anyway. > > >> You may also discover that after your body gets the > >> better muscle tone from being euthyroid, that you can > >> tolerate the pills better. > > > Would you mind explaining this? I am quite small in size > > (under a 100 lbs), so muscle tone would be nice. : ) > > >> Michael > > >> Michael > > Incidentally, I would only consider injecting synthetics, > not armour. If there are any odd proteins in the armour, > you could have troubles. > > Michael- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Mike, hi it's Kim. What do you mean odd proteins in the armour? Is that why I had itchy red bumps all over my palms and severe muscle twitching when I took that stuff. ??????????? And just from a nursing stand point, I wouldn't be injecting anything non sterile into my muscles. That's a recipe for infections, abscesses and all kinds of nasty stuff. Kimmie
From: nrsmac on 6 Jul 2008 16:28
On Jul 5, 9:00 am, "Dee" <jlmacdoug...(a)eastlink.ca> wrote: > "Herman Family" <the_sawdust_place_no_undersc...(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in > messagenews:GhHbk.76818$xP2.70273(a)fe099.usenetserver.com... > > > I've never heard of thyroid being in a cream. I don't know if they can > > make a cream of the right pH to hit the isoelectric point of the > > medication. > > No, the pharmacist hadn't heard of it, either; but thought he check out the > possibility anyway. He told me that they do use the synthetic thyroid in > some creams, but only because it can't be absorbed into the body that way > (because the molecules are large). I didn't get into why some creams have > thyroid in it, though. > > It can be injected, > > > however. Basically, you dissolve the tablets in normal saline and inject > > it. One important note is that the absorption rate for an injection is > > different than from the intestine. You may find yourself overdosed. > > Oh, interesting. Yes, I thought I had read somewhere that 'back in the old > days' thyroid was administered through injection. Good point about the > absorption rate. Actually, I restarted my Thyroid (dessicated pig thyroid > similar to the U.S.'s Armour) this morning; and dissolved it under my tongue > (only swallowing a small amount). So, I'm imagining it goes right into the > blood stream that way, too. I have heard that it's recommended to take the > Armour sublingually anyway. > > > > > You may also discover that after your body gets the better muscle tone > > from being euthyroid, that you can tolerate the pills better. > > Would you mind explaining this? I am quite small in size (under a 100 lbs), > so muscle tone would be nice. : ) > > > > > > > Michael > > > Michael- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Another question for anyone who wants to answer this one...so if you take your meds sublingual, you bypass your liver, but what about the T4 in armour, that still has to be converted to T3 in your liver doesn't it? And the cytomel I take doesn't have to be converted right, it's just readily available right? thanks, Kimmie |