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From: Christopher Jahn on 2 Jun 2008 10:44
Billy Boy <poston8(at)comcast(dot)net> wrote in
news:qcq744p9todvp00hc0rv3ekoc3fsmg2bcb(a)4ax.com:
>
> On Sun, 1 Jun 2008 22:48:48 -0400, "Janice"
> <Janice(a)hurtmail..com> wrote:
>
>>They all help a person cope better but not a major fix for
>>celiac.
>
> Janice,
>
> I'm just curious, Have you read the book?

It's rare that I agree with Janice, but this time she's
absolutely correct.

There is no cure for celiac disease at this time, and the quote
you provide is incorrect when it states that the specific
carbohydrate diet will cure celiac disease. It is a treatment,
not a cure.

By "cure," we don't mean "while you're on the diet you will be
healthy." "Cure" means that you no longer have the disease. The
"Specific Carbohydrate Diet" is not a cure because if you leave
the diet and start consuming gluten, you will react to gluten
just as you did before starting the diet.

The fact is that the "Specific Carbohydrate Diet" is a gluten-
free diet. When a celiac doesn't ingest gluten, they don't
suffer the effects of gluten on their system.

That's not to say that one wouldn't benefit from going on the
SCD; they most likely will. It's an effective treatment.

But it's no cure.

--
}:-) Christopher Jahn
{:-( http://manormaniac.blogspot.com/

Time's fun when you're having flies.
From: Janice on 2 Jun 2008 16:47
No I have not read the book.

You have no idea who you are talking to with your mirror attitude of mine.
Some, here will violently disagree with you and fit into the category, you
described in your first paragraph I preach this also. I am sure you will see
it demonstrated shortly, here. Most end up in people's bozo bins for their
negative attitudes and do not get read.

Have you tried D'adamo's Blood Type diet? I have witnessed many miracle with
that one also. Appears we just shouldn't be taking these newly created
grains into our human bodies. Every week I hear of somebody else that has
gotten a new chance in life due to getting off those seemingly innocent
poisons.

Here come the flames!

ROFLMAO


"Billy Boy" <poston8(at)comcast(dot)net> wrote in message
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> Janice,
>
> I'm just curious, Have you read the book?
>
> The following is a small excerpt of the book, "Breaking The Vicious Cycle:
> Intestional
> Health Through Diet." I have bumped heads with people with celiac disease
> before and
> sometimes I get the feeling that some of them rather than try something
> outside the norm
> they will settle with the symptoms and awful problems of digestive
> problems.
>
> There are web sites containing much info about the SCD diet. It is free
> for the taking.
> The diet doesn't take a genious to use. It does take some effort and a
> change of
> lifestyle, but wouldn't it be worth it to try.
>
> I hope this helps you and others.
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> "The following is part of an unsolicited letter sent to this writer
> (Elaine Gottshall) and
> is, unfortunately, reported all too frequently.
>
> After eight years of mysterious symptoms, dozens of doctors, gruelling,
> and often
> humiliating tests and general misery, no one could decide what was wrong
> with me. I
> discovered that because my two sisters and my daughter had been diagnosed
> as celiacs that
> I, too, should go on the gluten free diet. Unfortunately, for both my
> daughter, another
> sister and I, the gluten-free diet did not work. Some symptoms were
> arrested but none of
> us were thriving and we just weren't absorbing food. We eventually found
> the Specific
> Carbohydrate Diet and it has been a godsend. I have never been healthier.
> My daughter,
> once a sickly (often whiney) withdrawn child with thin hair and dark
> circles under her
> eyes is outgoing, rosy-cheeked and happy. Everyone has noticed her thick,
> shiny hair In
> fact she ran a marathon this year and placed 15th out of 79 children. Last
> year she ran
> the same race (before the diet) and placed 53rd, arrived weepy and slept
> all the way home
> in the car.
>
> I have been on the Specific Carbohydrate Dietfor less than a year and
> still have a way to
> go but my life has changed drastically in this short time. Now I am
> actively pursuing my
> art interest-something I always had inside me, but didn't have the energy
> or drive to
> tackle.
>
> The Specific Carbohydrate Diet has been shown to completely cure most
> cases of celiac
> disease if followed for at least one year. It is truly a gluten-free diet,
> eliminating all
> grains which contain gluten or gluten-like proteins while also recognizing
> the limitations
> of the injured intestinal surface. For those people who are not satisfied
> with their
> progress on the "gluten-free" diet, the Specific Carbohydrate Diet offers
> them the
> opportunity to become healthy."
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, 1 Jun 2008 22:48:48 -0400, "Janice" <Janice(a)hurtmail..com> wrote:
>
>>They all help a person cope better but not a major fix for celiac.
>>
>>"Billy Boy" <poston8(at)comcast(dot)net> wrote in message
>>news:6v10445s9tc8h0csjatfacqqe3frq43pm0(a)4ax.com...
>>> Yes, it will help.
>>>
>>> But, even more help will come from the book "Breaking the Vicious Cycle:
>>> Intestional
>>> Health Through Diet" by Elaine Gottschall. I dare you to invest $22.95
>>> in
>>> the book and
>>> change your life. It did mine. The whole chapter 6 is devoted to celiac.
>>>
>>> As the probiotics, I use several and they do help. I drink Kefir, a
>>> probiotic milk
>>> product, and take supplements: Culturelle, Healthy Trinity, PB8 and
>>> Pure.
>>> I find that the
>>> larger variety of probiotics you take the better it helps.
>>>
>>> Hope this helps.
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, 29 May 2008 12:10:38 -0400, "Frankie T" <frankiet(a)aol.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Dose anyone know if a product such as culturelle will help with celiac?
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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>


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From: Billy Boy on 4 Jun 2008 08:10
I suspected someone would say there was no "cure" for celiac disease.

This is quibble on words. There is no cure for life. We are all going to die. However, if
we can make our health and life better by being selective of what we eat, then I am all
for it.

There is no cure for poor/failing eye site, I am happy to wear glasses to correct the
situation for most of my life.

There is no cure for coronary artery disease. By-pass surgery and stints are all
temporary. Diet can help to avoid future problems with coronary artery disease.

There is no cure for sugar diabetes. But, medicine and diet can help.

There is no cure for a lot of illnesses. But, medicine and diet can help.

For some reason people with celiac disease are quick to yell "There is no cure for celiac
disease." Well, join the crowd.






On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 09:44:31 -0500, Christopher Jahn <xjahn(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

>Billy Boy <poston8(at)comcast(dot)net> wrote in
>news:qcq744p9todvp00hc0rv3ekoc3fsmg2bcb(a)4ax.com:
>>
>> On Sun, 1 Jun 2008 22:48:48 -0400, "Janice"
>> <Janice(a)hurtmail..com> wrote:
>>
>>>They all help a person cope better but not a major fix for
>>>celiac.
>>
>> Janice,
>>
>> I'm just curious, Have you read the book?
>
>It's rare that I agree with Janice, but this time she's
>absolutely correct.
>
>There is no cure for celiac disease at this time, and the quote
>you provide is incorrect when it states that the specific
>carbohydrate diet will cure celiac disease. It is a treatment,
>not a cure.
>
>By "cure," we don't mean "while you're on the diet you will be
>healthy." "Cure" means that you no longer have the disease. The
>"Specific Carbohydrate Diet" is not a cure because if you leave
>the diet and start consuming gluten, you will react to gluten
>just as you did before starting the diet.
>
>The fact is that the "Specific Carbohydrate Diet" is a gluten-
>free diet. When a celiac doesn't ingest gluten, they don't
>suffer the effects of gluten on their system.
>
>That's not to say that one wouldn't benefit from going on the
>SCD; they most likely will. It's an effective treatment.
>
>But it's no cure.

From: Janice on 4 Jun 2008 15:39
There certainly isn't a cure for the person you were responding too. Her
attitude is a fine example of the very thing you were complaining about.

I agree with you on the attitude. It is prevailent in a good percentage of
people afflicted with these nuisance diseases. Usually the crowd that
follows the commonly accepted chem/cut medical profession. They are taught
strict rules and are not allowed to free-think. The old Doctor is God
attitude from the 1800s is still widely out there.

Search the archives for any mention of Fit for Life, Blood Type Diet, or
other alternative research displays and you will find a great demonstration
of helplessness by bullies that want everybody on their level for fears of
being left behind.


"Billy Boy" <poston8(at)comcast(dot)net> wrote in message
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>I suspected someone would say there was no "cure" for celiac disease.
>
> This is quibble on words. There is no cure for life. We are all going to
> die. However, if
> we can make our health and life better by being selective of what we eat,
> then I am all
> for it.
>
> There is no cure for poor/failing eye site, I am happy to wear glasses to
> correct the
> situation for most of my life.
>
> There is no cure for coronary artery disease. By-pass surgery and stints
> are all
> temporary. Diet can help to avoid future problems with coronary artery
> disease.
>
> There is no cure for sugar diabetes. But, medicine and diet can help.
>
> There is no cure for a lot of illnesses. But, medicine and diet can help.
>
> For some reason people with celiac disease are quick to yell "There is no
> cure for celiac
> disease." Well, join the crowd.
>
>
>
>


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From: Christopher Jahn on 4 Jun 2008 17:42
Billy Boy <poston8(at)comcast(dot)net> wrote in
news:is0d44hpeormulr9rhvmg5pmdnbi135kef(a)4ax.com:

> There is no cure for sugar diabetes. But, medicine and diet
> can help.
>
> There is no cure for a lot of illnesses. But, medicine and
> diet can help.

Absolutely correct.

And when you quote material claiming a cure for those other
diseases, I will point out the fallacy of that claim, too.

>
> For some reason people with celiac disease are quick to yell
> "There is no cure for celiac disease." Well, join the crowd.

In this case, it was in response to material that you posted that
claimed there was a cure. It's hard to credit material that makes
false claims; I can tell that it's the mistaken review of someone
who followed the diet and not a claim of the creator of the diet,
but not everyone will. Be more careful when selecting material
to post.



--
}:-) Christopher Jahn
{:-( http://soflatheatre.blogspot.com/

Make your own mistakes, not somebody else's.
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