Prescription Question
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From: Joel M. Eichen on 2 Oct 2005 21:50 On 2 Oct 2005 18:41:55 -0700, "Number One" <BR4JJD(a)AOL.COM> wrote: > Ok, so you are saying that I should shop around a little more? >Actually a friend of my wife's told here about an office locally that >will bill out the co-pay, I just need to check to see if they are on >my insurance plan (Aetna). > >Here is a small follow up question that hopefully won't draw any fire >to me. What are the advantages of the root canal\crown procedure vs >just having it extracted all together? Is it typically the tooth >itself that generates pain, or is it nerves in the gums? That depends ... and its a great question! Joel > I am sure >there is no easy answer to that question. I only ask because if I can >just get rid of the problem all together, I would just get it yanked. >But the last thing I want is to be back at square one, the way I feel >now. I did everything the Dr recommended I do and I am still >experiencing horrible pain years later. > > > Thank you for the responses. > > JJD > >Steven Bornfeld wrote: >> Number One wrote: >> > Hi All, >> > >> > First time poster here with somewhat of a problem with the >> > prescription my dentist is giving me. About 2 years ago I had alot >> > dental work done in a short amount of time, and I needed it as I hadn't >> > been to a dentist at that time in about 15 years. I had 4 wisdom teeth >> > extracted and 2 root canals with crowns done. I was simply in too much >> > pain on a regular basis to ignore it anymore. I would be fine for a >> > few days or ever weeks, but then, usually at bad, inconvient times, I >> > would suffer from horrible tooth\jaw pain for days at a time and >> > sometimes longer. It was too much to bear, so I went to a dentist, who >> > recommended I get my wisdom teeth surgically removed, and several root >> > canals as well as crowns. In the interim between, he prescribed me >> > Percocet 5\325. I was on them for about 4 months as in compliance with >> > my insurance I needed to pay my portion of the bill up front, which was >> > over $1,000. Right before I went in for the wisdom tooth extraction I >> > had noticed that the 5\325 Percocet was not working very well anymore >> > and I had to take a larger dose than was recommended to stop the pain >> > (usually 3-4 pills). I let my GP know and he told me to tell the >> > surgeon so he could give me something stronger. I did, and after the >> > surgury, which had some complications as he missed part of a tooth, I >> > was put on Percocet 7.5\500. I was on this med for about 2 months as >> > we fixed the problem. Anyways, this was about two years ago, >> > previous dentist who did all my work is no longer part of my insurance >> > plan and I have had to get another one because I have experienced pain >> > recently. I was diagnosed as needing two more root canals as one has a >> > post and is in need of a crown and is infected, as well as another >> > tooth that has a cavity in the back wich needs to be rootcanaled as >> > well. The new Dentist made a referal and I have an appointment in a few >> > weeks, because of the co payment factor, which in this case is about >> > $600. He prescribed me something different called Vicoden 7.5\750. >> > The problem is that these don't seem to work at all, at best only for >> > an hour or so, and they seem to bother my stomach a little. I have >> > talked to my PCP who told me that the problem may be that I was on >> > Percocet for so long a few years ago that my body may not respond to >> > the Vicoden since I guess it is a less potent pain killer? Has anyone >> > ever heard of this? I have a few weeks before my rootcanal, but I >> > have been warned by a co worker not to goto a Dentist asking for a >> > specific painkiller or I might risk being labeled a "drug seeker", LOL. >> > Not me by a longshot, but I am concerned. Can anyone verify that >> > Vicoden is a weaker med than Percocet? And is it common for this >> > problem? >> > >> > Thank you to all who can reply, >> > >> > >> > Jay >> >> Your problem is very common indeed. These medications are not designed >> to be used for months at a time. >> You should be able to see a dentist to get you out of pain. It should >> not be necessary to incur the entire fee of a root canal up front in >> order to buy you some time. >> Meds are not the answer--treatment is. >> >> Steve >> >> > >> >> >> -- >> {\rtf1\ansi\ansicpg1252\deff0\deflang1033{\fonttbl{\f0\fswiss\fcharset0 >> Arial;}} >> {\*\generator Msftedit 5.41.15.1507;}\viewkind4\uc1\pard\f0\fs20 Remove >> "nospam" to reply\par >> }
From: Number One on 2 Oct 2005 22:11 What is your opinion? I know you can'y physically see me, but the pain typically is sharp and almost has a "pulsating" trait to it, the tooth feels swollen almost. The pain goes from my mouth to my sinuses, and then, at really bad times, will cause mind numbing headaches.
From: Joel M. Eichen on 2 Oct 2005 22:14 On 2 Oct 2005 19:11:23 -0700, "Number One" <BR4JJD(a)AOL.COM> wrote: >What is your opinion? I know you can'y physically see me, but the >pain typically is sharp and almost has a "pulsating" trait to it, the >tooth feels swollen almost. The pain goes from my mouth to my sinuses, >and then, at really bad times, will cause mind numbing headaches. Abscess! You said swollen. This means infectoion. Antibiotics may help. What complicates matters is there are three roots and one can be abscessed while two others are vital (but will get abscessed soon). Joel
From: Amatus Cremona on 2 Oct 2005 23:14 > > Way wrong. I simply posted as many facts about my situation as I >possibly could to make it easier for someone here to give me a more >accurate answer. Getting the feeling there is no answer here.. > Percoset for 6 months? I doubt it was a legitimate Rx Amatus. >I hope my interpretation is wrong. >> >> Amatus > > > >Amatus Cremona wrote: >> > >> >I might risk being labeled a "drug seeker", LOL. >> > Not me by a longshot, but I am concerned. Can anyone verify that >> >Vicoden is a weaker med than Percocet? And is it common for this >> >problem? >> > >> >> Your posting already marks you as a drug seeker. Your story does not >> fit your facts. I hope my interpretation is wrong. >> >> Amatus >> >> >> On 1 Oct 2005 22:27:38 -0700, "Number One" <BR4JJD(a)AOL.COM> wrote: >> >> > Hi All, >> > >> > First time poster here with somewhat of a problem with the >> >prescription my dentist is giving me. About 2 years ago I had alot >> >dental work done in a short amount of time, and I needed it as I hadn't >> >been to a dentist at that time in about 15 years. I had 4 wisdom teeth >> >extracted and 2 root canals with crowns done. I was simply in too much >> >pain on a regular basis to ignore it anymore. I would be fine for a >> >few days or ever weeks, but then, usually at bad, inconvient times, I >> >would suffer from horrible tooth\jaw pain for days at a time and >> >sometimes longer. It was too much to bear, so I went to a dentist, who >> >recommended I get my wisdom teeth surgically removed, and several root >> >canals as well as crowns. In the interim between, he prescribed me >> >Percocet 5\325. I was on them for about 4 months as in compliance with >> >my insurance I needed to pay my portion of the bill up front, which was >> >over $1,000. Right before I went in for the wisdom tooth extraction I >> >had noticed that the 5\325 Percocet was not working very well anymore >> >and I had to take a larger dose than was recommended to stop the pain >> >(usually 3-4 pills). I let my GP know and he told me to tell the >> >surgeon so he could give me something stronger. I did, and after the >> >surgury, which had some complications as he missed part of a tooth, I >> >was put on Percocet 7.5\500. I was on this med for about 2 months as >> >we fixed the problem. Anyways, this was about two years ago, >> >previous dentist who did all my work is no longer part of my insurance >> >plan and I have had to get another one because I have experienced pain >> >recently. I was diagnosed as needing two more root canals as one has a >> >post and is in need of a crown and is infected, as well as another >> >tooth that has a cavity in the back wich needs to be rootcanaled as >> >well. The new Dentist made a referal and I have an appointment in a few >> >weeks, because of the co payment factor, which in this case is about >> >$600. He prescribed me something different called Vicoden 7.5\750. >> >The problem is that these don't seem to work at all, at best only for >> >an hour or so, and they seem to bother my stomach a little. I have >> >talked to my PCP who told me that the problem may be that I was on >> >Percocet for so long a few years ago that my body may not respond to >> >the Vicoden since I guess it is a less potent pain killer? Has anyone >> >ever heard of this? I have a few weeks before my rootcanal, but I >> >have been warned by a co worker not to goto a Dentist asking for a >> >specific painkiller or I might risk being labeled a "drug seeker", LOL. >> > Not me by a longshot, but I am concerned. Can anyone verify that >> >Vicoden is a weaker med than Percocet? And is it common for this >> >problem? >> > >> > Thank you to all who can reply, >> > >> > >> > Jay >> >> .. >> >> Amatus >> >> . ... Amatus .
From: Number One on 2 Oct 2005 23:40
Excellent, thank you for the good info, as well as your down to earth response. I honestly don't know the difference between abcess and swollen, I was just describing the way it feels. I at least feel like I know a little more now then I did a day ago. Thank you to the several who could respond with honest answers I feel a little better. Not sure why this other guy is playing the angle he is.. Thanks Joel! Joel M. Eichen wrote: > On 2 Oct 2005 19:11:23 -0700, "Number One" <BR4JJD(a)AOL.COM> wrote: > > >What is your opinion? I know you can'y physically see me, but the > >pain typically is sharp and almost has a "pulsating" trait to it, the > >tooth feels swollen almost. The pain goes from my mouth to my sinuses, > >and then, at really bad times, will cause mind numbing headaches. > > Abscess! You said swollen. This means infectoion. Antibiotics may > help. > > What complicates matters is there are three roots and one can be > abscessed while two others are vital (but will get abscessed soon). > > Joel |