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From: Number One on 2 Oct 2005 20:35
Way wrong. I simply posted as many facts about my situation as I
possibly could to make it easier for someone here to give me a more
accurate answer. Getting the feeling there is no answer here..


I hope my interpretation is wrong.
>
> Amatus



Amatus Cremona wrote:
> >
> >I might risk being labeled a "drug seeker", LOL.
> > Not me by a longshot, but I am concerned. Can anyone verify that
> >Vicoden is a weaker med than Percocet? And is it common for this
> >problem?
> >
>
> Your posting already marks you as a drug seeker. Your story does not
> fit your facts. I hope my interpretation is wrong.
>
> Amatus
>
>
> On 1 Oct 2005 22:27:38 -0700, "Number One" <BR4JJD(a)AOL.COM> wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > First time poster here with somewhat of a problem with the
> >prescription my dentist is giving me. About 2 years ago I had alot
> >dental work done in a short amount of time, and I needed it as I hadn't
> >been to a dentist at that time in about 15 years. I had 4 wisdom teeth
> >extracted and 2 root canals with crowns done. I was simply in too much
> >pain on a regular basis to ignore it anymore. I would be fine for a
> >few days or ever weeks, but then, usually at bad, inconvient times, I
> >would suffer from horrible tooth\jaw pain for days at a time and
> >sometimes longer. It was too much to bear, so I went to a dentist, who
> >recommended I get my wisdom teeth surgically removed, and several root
> >canals as well as crowns. In the interim between, he prescribed me
> >Percocet 5\325. I was on them for about 4 months as in compliance with
> >my insurance I needed to pay my portion of the bill up front, which was
> >over $1,000. Right before I went in for the wisdom tooth extraction I
> >had noticed that the 5\325 Percocet was not working very well anymore
> >and I had to take a larger dose than was recommended to stop the pain
> >(usually 3-4 pills). I let my GP know and he told me to tell the
> >surgeon so he could give me something stronger. I did, and after the
> >surgury, which had some complications as he missed part of a tooth, I
> >was put on Percocet 7.5\500. I was on this med for about 2 months as
> >we fixed the problem. Anyways, this was about two years ago,
> >previous dentist who did all my work is no longer part of my insurance
> >plan and I have had to get another one because I have experienced pain
> >recently. I was diagnosed as needing two more root canals as one has a
> >post and is in need of a crown and is infected, as well as another
> >tooth that has a cavity in the back wich needs to be rootcanaled as
> >well. The new Dentist made a referal and I have an appointment in a few
> >weeks, because of the co payment factor, which in this case is about
> >$600. He prescribed me something different called Vicoden 7.5\750.
> >The problem is that these don't seem to work at all, at best only for
> >an hour or so, and they seem to bother my stomach a little. I have
> >talked to my PCP who told me that the problem may be that I was on
> >Percocet for so long a few years ago that my body may not respond to
> >the Vicoden since I guess it is a less potent pain killer? Has anyone
> >ever heard of this? I have a few weeks before my rootcanal, but I
> >have been warned by a co worker not to goto a Dentist asking for a
> >specific painkiller or I might risk being labeled a "drug seeker", LOL.
> > Not me by a longshot, but I am concerned. Can anyone verify that
> >Vicoden is a weaker med than Percocet? And is it common for this
> >problem?
> >
> > Thank you to all who can reply,
> >
> >
> > Jay
>
> ..
>
> Amatus
>
> .

From: Steven Bornfeld on 2 Oct 2005 21:21


Number One wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> First time poster here with somewhat of a problem with the
> prescription my dentist is giving me. About 2 years ago I had alot
> dental work done in a short amount of time, and I needed it as I hadn't
> been to a dentist at that time in about 15 years. I had 4 wisdom teeth
> extracted and 2 root canals with crowns done. I was simply in too much
> pain on a regular basis to ignore it anymore. I would be fine for a
> few days or ever weeks, but then, usually at bad, inconvient times, I
> would suffer from horrible tooth\jaw pain for days at a time and
> sometimes longer. It was too much to bear, so I went to a dentist, who
> recommended I get my wisdom teeth surgically removed, and several root
> canals as well as crowns. In the interim between, he prescribed me
> Percocet 5\325. I was on them for about 4 months as in compliance with
> my insurance I needed to pay my portion of the bill up front, which was
> over $1,000. Right before I went in for the wisdom tooth extraction I
> had noticed that the 5\325 Percocet was not working very well anymore
> and I had to take a larger dose than was recommended to stop the pain
> (usually 3-4 pills). I let my GP know and he told me to tell the
> surgeon so he could give me something stronger. I did, and after the
> surgury, which had some complications as he missed part of a tooth, I
> was put on Percocet 7.5\500. I was on this med for about 2 months as
> we fixed the problem. Anyways, this was about two years ago,
> previous dentist who did all my work is no longer part of my insurance
> plan and I have had to get another one because I have experienced pain
> recently. I was diagnosed as needing two more root canals as one has a
> post and is in need of a crown and is infected, as well as another
> tooth that has a cavity in the back wich needs to be rootcanaled as
> well. The new Dentist made a referal and I have an appointment in a few
> weeks, because of the co payment factor, which in this case is about
> $600. He prescribed me something different called Vicoden 7.5\750.
> The problem is that these don't seem to work at all, at best only for
> an hour or so, and they seem to bother my stomach a little. I have
> talked to my PCP who told me that the problem may be that I was on
> Percocet for so long a few years ago that my body may not respond to
> the Vicoden since I guess it is a less potent pain killer? Has anyone
> ever heard of this? I have a few weeks before my rootcanal, but I
> have been warned by a co worker not to goto a Dentist asking for a
> specific painkiller or I might risk being labeled a "drug seeker", LOL.
> Not me by a longshot, but I am concerned. Can anyone verify that
> Vicoden is a weaker med than Percocet? And is it common for this
> problem?
>
> Thank you to all who can reply,
>
>
> Jay

Your problem is very common indeed. These medications are not designed
to be used for months at a time.
You should be able to see a dentist to get you out of pain. It should
not be necessary to incur the entire fee of a root canal up front in
order to buy you some time.
Meds are not the answer--treatment is.

Steve

>


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From: pellmellwillynilly on 2 Oct 2005 21:40
I was given Vicodin for pain after foot surgery. Since the pain was
minimal, I really didn't need the painkiller but took it because I'd
been told to. My complaint wasn't that it didn't work but that I
developed 11 out of the 12 side effects listed in the PDR, most of
which my doctor didn't know about. I was pissed. Well, maybe not.
Inability to urinate was one of the side effects.

Can't you get a root canal sooner than several weeks?

From: Number One on 2 Oct 2005 21:41
Ok, so you are saying that I should shop around a little more?
Actually a friend of my wife's told here about an office locally that
will bill out the co-pay, I just need to check to see if they are on
my insurance plan (Aetna).

Here is a small follow up question that hopefully won't draw any fire
to me. What are the advantages of the root canal\crown procedure vs
just having it extracted all together? Is it typically the tooth
itself that generates pain, or is it nerves in the gums? I am sure
there is no easy answer to that question. I only ask because if I can
just get rid of the problem all together, I would just get it yanked.
But the last thing I want is to be back at square one, the way I feel
now. I did everything the Dr recommended I do and I am still
experiencing horrible pain years later.


Thank you for the responses.

JJD

Steven Bornfeld wrote:
> Number One wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > First time poster here with somewhat of a problem with the
> > prescription my dentist is giving me. About 2 years ago I had alot
> > dental work done in a short amount of time, and I needed it as I hadn't
> > been to a dentist at that time in about 15 years. I had 4 wisdom teeth
> > extracted and 2 root canals with crowns done. I was simply in too much
> > pain on a regular basis to ignore it anymore. I would be fine for a
> > few days or ever weeks, but then, usually at bad, inconvient times, I
> > would suffer from horrible tooth\jaw pain for days at a time and
> > sometimes longer. It was too much to bear, so I went to a dentist, who
> > recommended I get my wisdom teeth surgically removed, and several root
> > canals as well as crowns. In the interim between, he prescribed me
> > Percocet 5\325. I was on them for about 4 months as in compliance with
> > my insurance I needed to pay my portion of the bill up front, which was
> > over $1,000. Right before I went in for the wisdom tooth extraction I
> > had noticed that the 5\325 Percocet was not working very well anymore
> > and I had to take a larger dose than was recommended to stop the pain
> > (usually 3-4 pills). I let my GP know and he told me to tell the
> > surgeon so he could give me something stronger. I did, and after the
> > surgury, which had some complications as he missed part of a tooth, I
> > was put on Percocet 7.5\500. I was on this med for about 2 months as
> > we fixed the problem. Anyways, this was about two years ago,
> > previous dentist who did all my work is no longer part of my insurance
> > plan and I have had to get another one because I have experienced pain
> > recently. I was diagnosed as needing two more root canals as one has a
> > post and is in need of a crown and is infected, as well as another
> > tooth that has a cavity in the back wich needs to be rootcanaled as
> > well. The new Dentist made a referal and I have an appointment in a few
> > weeks, because of the co payment factor, which in this case is about
> > $600. He prescribed me something different called Vicoden 7.5\750.
> > The problem is that these don't seem to work at all, at best only for
> > an hour or so, and they seem to bother my stomach a little. I have
> > talked to my PCP who told me that the problem may be that I was on
> > Percocet for so long a few years ago that my body may not respond to
> > the Vicoden since I guess it is a less potent pain killer? Has anyone
> > ever heard of this? I have a few weeks before my rootcanal, but I
> > have been warned by a co worker not to goto a Dentist asking for a
> > specific painkiller or I might risk being labeled a "drug seeker", LOL.
> > Not me by a longshot, but I am concerned. Can anyone verify that
> > Vicoden is a weaker med than Percocet? And is it common for this
> > problem?
> >
> > Thank you to all who can reply,
> >
> >
> > Jay
>
> Your problem is very common indeed. These medications are not designed
> to be used for months at a time.
> You should be able to see a dentist to get you out of pain. It should
> not be necessary to incur the entire fee of a root canal up front in
> order to buy you some time.
> Meds are not the answer--treatment is.
>
> Steve
>
> >
>
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From: Joel M. Eichen on 2 Oct 2005 21:49
On 2 Oct 2005 18:41:55 -0700, "Number One" <BR4JJD(a)AOL.COM> wrote:

> Ok, so you are saying that I should shop around a little more?
>Actually a friend of my wife's told here about an office locally that
>will bill out the co-pay, I just need to check to see if they are on
>my insurance plan (Aetna).
>
>Here is a small follow up question that hopefully won't draw any fire
>to me. What are the advantages of the root canal\crown procedure vs
>just having it extracted all together?

If you extract, there is no tooth there. If you have root canal, the
tooth may last a while longer.

Joel

> Is it typically the tooth
>itself that generates pain, or is it nerves in the gums? I am sure
>there is no easy answer to that question. I only ask because if I can
>just get rid of the problem all together, I would just get it yanked.
>But the last thing I want is to be back at square one, the way I feel
>now. I did everything the Dr recommended I do and I am still
>experiencing horrible pain years later.
>
>
> Thank you for the responses.
>
> JJD
>
>Steven Bornfeld wrote:
>> Number One wrote:
>> > Hi All,
>> >
>> > First time poster here with somewhat of a problem with the
>> > prescription my dentist is giving me. About 2 years ago I had alot
>> > dental work done in a short amount of time, and I needed it as I hadn't
>> > been to a dentist at that time in about 15 years. I had 4 wisdom teeth
>> > extracted and 2 root canals with crowns done. I was simply in too much
>> > pain on a regular basis to ignore it anymore. I would be fine for a
>> > few days or ever weeks, but then, usually at bad, inconvient times, I
>> > would suffer from horrible tooth\jaw pain for days at a time and
>> > sometimes longer. It was too much to bear, so I went to a dentist, who
>> > recommended I get my wisdom teeth surgically removed, and several root
>> > canals as well as crowns. In the interim between, he prescribed me
>> > Percocet 5\325. I was on them for about 4 months as in compliance with
>> > my insurance I needed to pay my portion of the bill up front, which was
>> > over $1,000. Right before I went in for the wisdom tooth extraction I
>> > had noticed that the 5\325 Percocet was not working very well anymore
>> > and I had to take a larger dose than was recommended to stop the pain
>> > (usually 3-4 pills). I let my GP know and he told me to tell the
>> > surgeon so he could give me something stronger. I did, and after the
>> > surgury, which had some complications as he missed part of a tooth, I
>> > was put on Percocet 7.5\500. I was on this med for about 2 months as
>> > we fixed the problem. Anyways, this was about two years ago,
>> > previous dentist who did all my work is no longer part of my insurance
>> > plan and I have had to get another one because I have experienced pain
>> > recently. I was diagnosed as needing two more root canals as one has a
>> > post and is in need of a crown and is infected, as well as another
>> > tooth that has a cavity in the back wich needs to be rootcanaled as
>> > well. The new Dentist made a referal and I have an appointment in a few
>> > weeks, because of the co payment factor, which in this case is about
>> > $600. He prescribed me something different called Vicoden 7.5\750.
>> > The problem is that these don't seem to work at all, at best only for
>> > an hour or so, and they seem to bother my stomach a little. I have
>> > talked to my PCP who told me that the problem may be that I was on
>> > Percocet for so long a few years ago that my body may not respond to
>> > the Vicoden since I guess it is a less potent pain killer? Has anyone
>> > ever heard of this? I have a few weeks before my rootcanal, but I
>> > have been warned by a co worker not to goto a Dentist asking for a
>> > specific painkiller or I might risk being labeled a "drug seeker", LOL.
>> > Not me by a longshot, but I am concerned. Can anyone verify that
>> > Vicoden is a weaker med than Percocet? And is it common for this
>> > problem?
>> >
>> > Thank you to all who can reply,
>> >
>> >
>> > Jay
>>
>> Your problem is very common indeed. These medications are not designed
>> to be used for months at a time.
>> You should be able to see a dentist to get you out of pain. It should
>> not be necessary to incur the entire fee of a root canal up front in
>> order to buy you some time.
>> Meds are not the answer--treatment is.
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> >
>>
>>
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