Pre Diabetes? Or Full Blown Diabetes? Somebody Please help!
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From: dream7939 on 10 Oct 2005 05:09 Hello, Let me start by saying I'm a white male,36,6'1 208 Lbs. My mother has diabetes, so every once in a while I check my blood sugar on her Glucose meter. Usually the results are within normal ranges(70 to 95 fasting). Today something strange happened. I started off with normal ranges, I then went out to dinner and had a large pasta dish and 2 rolls of bread and a glass of water. Unfortunately I also get panic attacks, and had a very bad one an hour before the meal. Also under lots of stress lately. Anyway, after the meal about an hour later, I had 2 pieces of chocolate cake. I then decided to take my blood sugar about an hour and half later and it was 229! I have never seen this number before. Of course I got nervous and tried to relax. I took it again 7 minutes later and it was 198. Then again 20 minutes later, and it was 186, and once more 15 minutes later and it was 161. I then waited 2 hours later and took it again and it was 87, back to a normal range. Is this diabetes? I'm under the impression that with diabetes the numbers would not come down that fast. Also, I thought any number after eating, a number over 200 is diabetes, and when it eventually comes down, the number is still high (over 126-140). Mine comes down into the 90's or 80's. On other occasions when eating a well balanced meal with some carbs, the numbers only spikes to about 140-146 and then comes down. Was this episode of a high number due to the insane amount of carbs I ate? And if so, is 229 normal for this amount of carbs? Any help on this matter would be greatly appreciated. Tom P.s. - The lowest blood sugar i've had was 70. This happens if I wait too long to eat. I start to get shaky, and after I eat, about a half hour later, I'm fine.
From: Tecknomage on 10 Oct 2005 07:22 On 10 Oct 2005 02:09:01 -0700, dream7939(a)aol.com wrote: > Hello, > Let me start by saying I'm a white male,36,6'1 208 Lbs. My mother has > diabetes, so every once in a while I check my blood sugar on her > Glucose meter. Usually the results are within normal ranges(70 to 95 > fasting). Today something strange happened. I started off with normal > ranges, I then went out to dinner and had a large pasta dish and 2 > rolls of bread and a glass of water. Unfortunately I also get panic > attacks, and had a very bad one an hour before the meal. Also under > lots of stress lately. Anyway, after the meal about an hour later, I > had 2 pieces of chocolate cake. I then decided to take my blood sugar > about an hour and half later and it was 229! I have never seen this > number before. Of course I got nervous and tried to relax. I took it > again 7 minutes later and it was 198. Then again 20 minutes later, and > it was 186, and once more 15 minutes later and it was 161. I then > waited 2 hours later and took it again and it was 87, back to a normal > range. > > Is this diabetes? I'm under the impression that with diabetes the > numbers would not come down that fast. Also, I thought any number after > eating, a number over 200 is diabetes, and when it eventually comes > down, the number is still high (over 126-140). Mine comes down into the > 90's or 80's. On other occasions when eating a well balanced meal with > some carbs, the numbers only spikes to about 140-146 and then comes > down. > Was this episode of a high number due to the insane amount of carbs I > ate? And if so, is 229 normal for this amount of carbs? Any help on > this matter would be greatly appreciated. Tom > P.s. - The lowest blood sugar i've had was 70. This happens if I wait > too long to eat. I start to get shaky, and after I eat, about a half > hour later, I'm fine. First, it's very good that you check your sugars. As to the numbers you had, considering what you say you ate I'm surprised that your number was not higher. The meal you had is LOADED with carbs. This number _may_ not be a problem _if_ your numbers go back to normal. Reminder, Diabetes is a blood sugar _control_ problem and if your sugars occasionally go high when you eat the "wrong" things, but if your sugars _go_back_to_normal later you may be OK. As always, see your Doc and get a Diabetic Panel (battery of blood tests) that will give the 3mth average of your blood sugars. Also, if you haven't in awhile, your Doc should include liver blood tests. Other problems with liver function can be a warning or contribute to problems of people prone to Diabetes. -- ==== Tecknomage ==== "Four people on a lifeboat are not entitled, as an act of democracy, to vote to eat the fifth." -Stephen Scott, Professor of Law, McGill University Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com
From: Jenny on 10 Oct 2005 09:48 dream7939(a)aol.com wrote: > Was this episode of a high number due to the insane amount of carbs I > ate? And if so, is 229 normal for this amount of carbs? Any help on > this matter would be greatly appreciated. Tom > P.s. - The lowest blood sugar i've had was 70. This happens if I wait > too long to eat. I start to get shaky, and after I eat, about a half > hour later, I'm fine. > Though many doctors don't know this, the official ADA diagnostic criteria for diagnosing diabetes say that two readings over 200 at any time are diagnostic. So if you see an number like that again (regardless of what you eat) yes, you are diabetic. Unfortunately, many doctors only will diagnose you only when your fasting blood sugar has deteriorated, which may be years after you first start experiencing diabetic blood sugars. There is a lot of evidence that exposure to blood sugar levels over 140 will damage nerves, capillaries, etc. I have gathered this data together on my web site at http://www.geocities.com/lottadata4u/ You are fortunate in that you have discovered your abnormal blood sugar early enough that you can take steps to control it and avoid the complications that develop after years of undetected post meal numbers like yours. I am in my 8th year since similar testing showed my blood sugar to be over 240 mg/dl. I am only now developing the fasting blood sugars that would have led most doctors to diagnose me. Because I have controlled my blood sugar aggressively over this period, I have no diabetic complications. In contrast almost half of those diagnosed with the fasting glucose test have serious complications, usually nerve damage (which leads to amputation and/or dysregulation of nerves controlling heart beat which leads to death.) -- --Jenny http://www.geocities.com/lottadata4u/ Type 2 Diabetes info http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/ Low Carb info
From: Nico Kadel-Garcia on 10 Oct 2005 09:53 <dream7939(a)aol.com> wrote in message news:1128935341.211089.231780(a)g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Hello, > Let me start by saying I'm a white male,36,6'1 208 Lbs. My mother has > diabetes, so every once in a while I check my blood sugar on her > Glucose meter. Usually the results are within normal ranges(70 to 95 > fasting). Today something strange happened. I started off with normal > ranges, I then went out to dinner and had a large pasta dish and 2 > rolls of bread and a glass of water. Unfortunately I also get panic > attacks, and had a very bad one an hour before the meal. Also under > lots of stress lately. Anyway, after the meal about an hour later, I > had 2 pieces of chocolate cake. I then decided to take my blood sugar > about an hour and half later and it was 229! I have never seen this > number before. Of course I got nervous and tried to relax. I took it > again 7 minutes later and it was 198. Then again 20 minutes later, and > it was 186, and once more 15 minutes later and it was 161. I then > waited 2 hours later and took it again and it was 87, back to a normal > range. You know, diabetes aside, did you really need *2* pieces of chocolate cake? The exact numbers to get you diagnosed as diabetic, or pre-diabetic, are pretty hard to ascertain with a big, tasty slice of cake or two of unknown size. If you're concerned about this, have your *doctor* do a glucose tolerance test with you, where the actual amount of glucose or sucrose entering your system is known. > Is this diabetes? I'm under the impression that with diabetes the > numbers would not come down that fast. Also, I thought any number after > eating, a number over 200 is diabetes, and when it eventually comes > down, the number is still high (over 126-140). Mine comes down into the > 90's or 80's. On other occasions when eating a well balanced meal with > some carbs, the numbers only spikes to about 140-146 and then comes > down. > Was this episode of a high number due to the insane amount of carbs I > ate? And if so, is 229 normal for this amount of carbs? Any help on > this matter would be greatly appreciated. Tom > P.s. - The lowest blood sugar i've had was 70. This happens if I wait > too long to eat. I start to get shaky, and after I eat, about a half > hour later, I'm fine. We couldn't begin to guess: we don't know how big those slices are, and if you had a little sugar on your fingertips from handling the cake, that could also distort the results quite a lot.
From: Julie Bove on 10 Oct 2005 16:37
<dream7939(a)aol.com> wrote in message news:1128935341.211089.231780(a)g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Hello, > Let me start by saying I'm a white male,36,6'1 208 Lbs. My mother has > diabetes, so every once in a while I check my blood sugar on her > Glucose meter. Usually the results are within normal ranges(70 to 95 > fasting). Today something strange happened. I started off with normal > ranges, I then went out to dinner and had a large pasta dish and 2 > rolls of bread and a glass of water. Unfortunately I also get panic > attacks, and had a very bad one an hour before the meal. Also under > lots of stress lately. Anyway, after the meal about an hour later, I > had 2 pieces of chocolate cake. I then decided to take my blood sugar > about an hour and half later and it was 229! I have never seen this > number before. Of course I got nervous and tried to relax. I took it > again 7 minutes later and it was 198. Then again 20 minutes later, and > it was 186, and once more 15 minutes later and it was 161. I then > waited 2 hours later and took it again and it was 87, back to a normal > range. > > Is this diabetes? I'm under the impression that with diabetes the > numbers would not come down that fast. Also, I thought any number after > eating, a number over 200 is diabetes, and when it eventually comes > down, the number is still high (over 126-140). Mine comes down into the > 90's or 80's. On other occasions when eating a well balanced meal with > some carbs, the numbers only spikes to about 140-146 and then comes > down. > Was this episode of a high number due to the insane amount of carbs I > ate? And if so, is 229 normal for this amount of carbs? Any help on > this matter would be greatly appreciated. Tom > P.s. - The lowest blood sugar i've had was 70. This happens if I wait > too long to eat. I start to get shaky, and after I eat, about a half > hour later, I'm fine. Sounds like diabetes to me! And you are wrong in thinking that the BG (blood glucose/sugar) of a person with diabetes is always high. Many of us started with reactive hypoglycemia and are still prone to hypos. See your Dr. ASAP! -- See my webpage: http://mysite.verizon.net/juliebove/index.htm |