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From: ironjustice on 26 Jun 2008 22:20 On Jun 19, 8:48 pm, "ironjust...(a)aol.com" <ironjust...(a)aol.com> wrote:Does porphyria cutanea tarda .. share .. many .. ? ..common symptoms .. ? << "One may conceal the presence of the other" "ASSOCIATION OF LUPUS ERYTHEMATOSUS AND PORPHYRIA" http://tinyurl.com/4kqpxh British Journal of Dermatology Volume 82 Issue 2 Page 118-124, February 1970 To cite this article: G. W. HETHERINGTON, R. L. JETTON, JOH. M KNOX (1970) THE ASSOCIATION OF LUPUS ERYTHEMATOSUS AND PORPHYRIA British Journal of Dermatology 82 (2) , 118124 doi:10.1111/j. 1365-2133.1970.tb15001.x Abstract THE ASSOCIATION OF LUPUS ERYTHEMATOSUS AND PORPHYRIA G. W. HETHERINGTON11Department of Dermatology, Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Texas, U.S.A., R. L. JETTON11Department of Dermatology, Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Texas, U.S.A. and JOH. M KNOX11Department of Dermatology, Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Texas, U.S.A.1Department of Dermatology, Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Texas, U.S.A. Abstract SUMMARY.Two cases of chronic discoid lupus erythematosus associated with porphyria cutanea tarda are described and the literature on this association is reviewed. The coexistence of these 2 conditions may be fortuitous or may be determined by some unknown mechanism. Since both conditions may present clinically as photosensitivity, one may conceal the presence of the other if their possible association is not considered. Who loves ya. Tom Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh Man Is A Herbivore! http://tinyurl.com/4rq595 DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk > On Jun 17, 11:00 pm, ironjustice <teamtan...(a)hotmail.com> > wrote:Porphyria cutanea tarda << > > Just in case anyone is unaware .. porphyria cutanea tarda is iron > overload. > > On Jun 17, 11:00 pm, ironjustice <teamtan...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > Elevated uroporphyrin due to PCT << > > We also just learned throught the mistaken feeding of fish to mice > that meat causes elevated uroporphyrin. > We also just learned that when the iron is too high the vitamin C in > the body cannot stop the body from having elevated uroporphyrin. > > Sooo .. is it the iron overload / porphyria cutanea tarda which is > causing the increased scleroderma in lupus .. ? > > Does porphyria cutanea tarda .. share .. many .. ? ..common > symptoms .. ? > > We know there is a VERY high rate of anemia .. in lupus. > > Which we pretty much have established seems to be kinda .. strange .. > due to the fact .. EVERYONE with 'similar' diseases are in FACT .. > all .. iron OVERLOADED. > > Sooo ..if one were to disregard this hyperferritinemia in lupus AS.. > not to be recognized .. but just the OPPOSITE and USE this iron > overload marker AS an iron overload marker .. and what are you left > with .. ? > > EVERY marker now points to iron overload as a LARGE problem in lupus > as opposed to .. "they are all iron deficient" .. > > Just the OPPOSITE of what .. 'they'.. TELL you .. > > Scary .. but seems to be true .. by using .. logic. > > Hyperferritinemia used as a marker shows iron overload in almost all > SLE patients. > > The rest .. ? > > Seeing the marker they DO use for hyperferritinemia is SOOOOOO .. > high .. then we can pretty much be sure all the rest are over the low > marker .. > > Logical .. ? > > Yep .. > Who loves ya. > Tom > > Jesus Was A Vegetarian!http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh > > Man Is A Herbivore!http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3 > > DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk > > > > > "Porphyria cutanea tarda should be considered for scleroderma" > > > Nippon Rinsho. 1995 Jun;53(6):1463-7.Links > > [Scleroderma and porphyria cutanea tarda][Article in Japanese] > > > Tsukazaki N, Okada S, Yoshida H. > > Department of Dermatology, Nagasaki University School of Medicine. > > > Examination was made of sclerodermoid changes in porphyria cutanea > > tarda (PCT) and PCT in association with true scleroderma. Although > > sclerodermoid change in PCT is rare in Japan, it is important in the > > diagnosis of PCT when there are few other clinical signs > > characteristic of PCT. In the present case, slight improvement in > > cutaneous sclerosis was noted following treatment for PCT, but > > pulmonary changes somewhat intensified. The reason for the association > > of PCT with progressive systemic sclerosis (PSS) remains obscure. > > Elevated uroporphyrin due to PCT may possibly increase cutaneous > > sclerosis in PSS. A diagnosis of PCT should be considered for patients > > presenting scleroderma, since it is difficult to distinguish > > sclerodermoid changes from true scleroderma. > > > PMID: 7616663 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] > > Who loves ya. > > Tom > > > Jesus Was A Vegetarian!http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh > > > Man Is A Herbivore!http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3 > > > DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
From: ironjustice on 5 Jul 2008 09:01 On Jun 26, 7:20 pm, ironjustice <ironjust...(a)cashette.com> wrote: Porphyria << http://www.mcsrr.org/resources/articles/S5.html Porphyria, Porphyrinuria and Porphyrinopathy Chemical Injury and Disorders of Porphyrin Metabolism Who loves ya. Tom Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh Man Is A Herbivore! http://tinyurl.com/4rq595 DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk > On Jun 19, 8:48 pm, "ironjust...(a)aol.com" <ironjust...(a)aol.com> > wrote:Does porphyria cutanea tarda .. share .. many .. ? ..common > symptoms .. ? << > > "One may conceal the presence of the other" > > "ASSOCIATION OF LUPUS ERYTHEMATOSUS AND PORPHYRIA" > > http://tinyurl.com/4kqpxh > British Journal of Dermatology > Volume 82 Issue 2 Page 118-124, February 1970 > > To cite this article: G. W. HETHERINGTON, R. L. JETTON, JOH. M KNOX > (1970) THE ASSOCIATION OF LUPUS ERYTHEMATOSUS AND PORPHYRIA > British Journal of Dermatology 82 (2) , 118124 doi:10.1111/j. > 1365-2133.1970.tb15001.x > Abstract > THE ASSOCIATION OF LUPUS ERYTHEMATOSUS AND PORPHYRIA > G. W. HETHERINGTON11Department of Dermatology, Baylor College of > Medicine, Houston, Texas, U.S.A., R. L. JETTON11Department of > Dermatology, Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Texas, U.S.A. and > JOH. M KNOX11Department of Dermatology, Baylor College of Medicine, > Houston, Texas, U.S.A.1Department of Dermatology, Baylor College of > Medicine, Houston, Texas, U.S.A. > Abstract > SUMMARY.Two cases of chronic discoid lupus erythematosus associated > with porphyria cutanea tarda are described and the literature on this > association is reviewed. > > The coexistence of these 2 conditions may be fortuitous or may be > determined by some unknown mechanism. Since both conditions may > present clinically as photosensitivity, one may conceal the presence > of the other if their possible association is not considered. > > Who loves ya. > Tom > > Jesus Was A Vegetarian!http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh > > Man Is A Herbivore!http://tinyurl.com/4rq595 > > DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk > > > > > On Jun 17, 11:00 pm, ironjustice <teamtan...(a)hotmail.com> > > wrote:Porphyria cutanea tarda << > > > Just in case anyone is unaware .. porphyria cutanea tarda is iron > > overload. > > > On Jun 17, 11:00 pm, ironjustice <teamtan...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > Elevated uroporphyrin due to PCT << > > > We also just learned throught the mistaken feeding of fish to mice > > that meat causes elevated uroporphyrin. > > We also just learned that when the iron is too high the vitamin C in > > the body cannot stop the body from having elevated uroporphyrin. > > > Sooo .. is it the iron overload / porphyria cutanea tarda which is > > causing the increased scleroderma in lupus .. ? > > > Does porphyria cutanea tarda .. share .. many .. ? ..common > > symptoms .. ? > > > We know there is a VERY high rate of anemia .. in lupus. > > > Which we pretty much have established seems to be kinda .. strange .. > > due to the fact .. EVERYONE with 'similar' diseases are in FACT .. > > all .. iron OVERLOADED. > > > Sooo ..if one were to disregard this hyperferritinemia in lupus AS.. > > not to be recognized .. but just the OPPOSITE and USE this iron > > overload marker AS an iron overload marker .. and what are you left > > with .. ? > > > EVERY marker now points to iron overload as a LARGE problem in lupus > > as opposed to .. "they are all iron deficient" .. > > > Just the OPPOSITE of what .. 'they'.. TELL you .. > > > Scary .. but seems to be true .. by using .. logic. > > > Hyperferritinemia used as a marker shows iron overload in almost all > > SLE patients. > > > The rest .. ? > > > Seeing the marker they DO use for hyperferritinemia is SOOOOOO .. > > high .. then we can pretty much be sure all the rest are over the low > > marker .. > > > Logical .. ? > > > Yep .. > > Who loves ya. > > Tom > > > Jesus Was A Vegetarian!http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh > > > Man Is A Herbivore!http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3 > > > DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk > > > > "Porphyria cutanea tarda should be considered for scleroderma" > > > > Nippon Rinsho. 1995 Jun;53(6):1463-7.Links > > > [Scleroderma and porphyria cutanea tarda][Article in Japanese] > > > > Tsukazaki N, Okada S, Yoshida H. > > > Department of Dermatology, Nagasaki University School of Medicine. > > > > Examination was made of sclerodermoid changes in porphyria cutanea > > > tarda (PCT) and PCT in association with true scleroderma. Although > > > sclerodermoid change in PCT is rare in Japan, it is important in the > > > diagnosis of PCT when there are few other clinical signs > > > characteristic of PCT. In the present case, slight improvement in > > > cutaneous sclerosis was noted following treatment for PCT, but > > > pulmonary changes somewhat intensified. The reason for the association > > > of PCT with progressive systemic sclerosis (PSS) remains obscure. > > > Elevated uroporphyrin due to PCT may possibly increase cutaneous > > > sclerosis in PSS. A diagnosis of PCT should be considered for patients > > > presenting scleroderma, since it is difficult to distinguish > > > sclerodermoid changes from true scleroderma. > > > > PMID: 7616663 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] > > > Who loves ya. > > > Tom > > > > Jesus Was A Vegetarian!http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh > > > > Man Is A Herbivore!http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3 > > > > DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk-Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
From: ironjustice on 5 Jul 2008 09:18 On Jul 5, 6:01 am, "ironjust...(a)aol.com" <ironjust...(a)aol.com> wrote: porphyria << This would be my free bisphosphonate again. http://tinyurl.com/54syvt "Avoid fasting, dieting, and a low carbohydrate intake which can aggravate symptoms. Symptoms may be reduced by eating a regular diet of adequate carbohydrates. Complex carbohydrates are best, such as potatoes and grains (bread, pasta, cereal, etc. made from wheat, corn, oats, rye, and other grains). Avoid iron supplements and vitamins containing iron. Also avoid cookware made with uncoated iron or aluminum, since these metals can contaminate your food. Consider having your serum iron tested if you frequently have diarrhea or loose stools. Low normal is considered better for people with porphyrin disorders. Another way to reduce iron levels in the body (if near or above average) is to slowly cut your meat intake." Who loves ya. Tom Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh Man Is A Herbivore! http://tinyurl.com/4rq595 DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk > On Jun 26, 7:20 pm, ironjustice <ironjust...(a)cashette.com> wrote: > Porphyria << > > http://www.mcsrr.org/resources/articles/S5.html > > Porphyria, Porphyrinuria and Porphyrinopathy > Chemical Injury and Disorders of Porphyrin Metabolism > > Who loves ya. > Tom > > Jesus Was A Vegetarian!http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh > > Man Is A Herbivore!http://tinyurl.com/4rq595 > > DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk > > > > > On Jun 19, 8:48 pm, "ironjust...(a)aol.com" <ironjust...(a)aol.com> > > wrote:Does porphyria cutanea tarda .. share .. many .. ? ..common > > symptoms .. ? << > > > "One may conceal the presence of the other" > > > "ASSOCIATION OF LUPUS ERYTHEMATOSUS AND PORPHYRIA" > > >http://tinyurl.com/4kqpxh > > British Journal of Dermatology > > Volume 82 Issue 2 Page 118-124, February 1970 > > > To cite this article: G. W. HETHERINGTON, R. L. JETTON, JOH. M KNOX > > (1970) THE ASSOCIATION OF LUPUS ERYTHEMATOSUS AND PORPHYRIA > > British Journal of Dermatology 82 (2) , 118124 doi:10.1111/j. > > 1365-2133.1970.tb15001.x > > Abstract > > THE ASSOCIATION OF LUPUS ERYTHEMATOSUS AND PORPHYRIA > > G. W. HETHERINGTON11Department of Dermatology, Baylor College of > > Medicine, Houston, Texas, U.S.A., R. L. JETTON11Department of > > Dermatology, Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Texas, U.S.A. and > > JOH. M KNOX11Department of Dermatology, Baylor College of Medicine, > > Houston, Texas, U.S.A.1Department of Dermatology, Baylor College of > > Medicine, Houston, Texas, U.S.A. > > Abstract > > SUMMARY.Two cases of chronic discoid lupus erythematosus associated > > with porphyria cutanea tarda are described and the literature on this > > association is reviewed. > > > The coexistence of these 2 conditions may be fortuitous or may be > > determined by some unknown mechanism. Since both conditions may > > present clinically as photosensitivity, one may conceal the presence > > of the other if their possible association is not considered. > > > Who loves ya. > > Tom > > > Jesus Was A Vegetarian!http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh > > > Man Is A Herbivore!http://tinyurl.com/4rq595 > > > DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk > > > > On Jun 17, 11:00 pm, ironjustice <teamtan...(a)hotmail.com> > > > wrote:Porphyria cutanea tarda << > > > > Just in case anyone is unaware .. porphyria cutanea tarda is iron > > > overload. > > > > On Jun 17, 11:00 pm, ironjustice <teamtan...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > Elevated uroporphyrin due to PCT << > > > > We also just learned throught the mistaken feeding of fish to mice > > > that meat causes elevated uroporphyrin. > > > We also just learned that when the iron is too high the vitamin C in > > > the body cannot stop the body from having elevated uroporphyrin. > > > > Sooo .. is it the iron overload / porphyria cutanea tarda which is > > > causing the increased scleroderma in lupus .. ? > > > > Does porphyria cutanea tarda .. share .. many .. ? ..common > > > symptoms .. ? > > > > We know there is a VERY high rate of anemia .. in lupus. > > > > Which we pretty much have established seems to be kinda .. strange .. > > > due to the fact .. EVERYONE with 'similar' diseases are in FACT .. > > > all .. iron OVERLOADED. > > > > Sooo ..if one were to disregard this hyperferritinemia in lupus AS.. > > > not to be recognized .. but just the OPPOSITE and USE this iron > > > overload marker AS an iron overload marker .. and what are you left > > > with .. ? > > > > EVERY marker now points to iron overload as a LARGE problem in lupus > > > as opposed to .. "they are all iron deficient" .. > > > > Just the OPPOSITE of what .. 'they'.. TELL you .. > > > > Scary .. but seems to be true .. by using .. logic. > > > > Hyperferritinemia used as a marker shows iron overload in almost all > > > SLE patients. > > > > The rest .. ? > > > > Seeing the marker they DO use for hyperferritinemia is SOOOOOO .. > > > high .. then we can pretty much be sure all the rest are over the low > > > marker .. > > > > Logical .. ? > > > > Yep .. > > > Who loves ya. > > > Tom > > > > Jesus Was A Vegetarian!http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh > > > > Man Is A Herbivore!http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3 > > > > DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk > > > > > "Porphyria cutanea tarda should be considered for scleroderma" > > > > > Nippon Rinsho. 1995 Jun;53(6):1463-7.Links > > > > [Scleroderma and porphyria cutanea tarda][Article in Japanese] > > > > > Tsukazaki N, Okada S, Yoshida H. > > > > Department of Dermatology, Nagasaki University School of Medicine. > > > > > Examination was made of sclerodermoid changes in porphyria cutanea > > > > tarda (PCT) and PCT in association with true scleroderma. Although > > > > sclerodermoid change in PCT is rare in Japan, it is important in the > > > > diagnosis of PCT when there are few other clinical signs > > > > characteristic of PCT. In the present case, slight improvement in > > > > cutaneous sclerosis was noted following treatment for PCT, but > > > > pulmonary changes somewhat intensified. The reason for the association > > > > of PCT with progressive systemic sclerosis (PSS) remains obscure. > > > > Elevated uroporphyrin due to PCT may possibly increase cutaneous > > > > sclerosis in PSS. A diagnosis of PCT should be considered for patients > > > > presenting scleroderma, since it is difficult to distinguish > > > > sclerodermoid changes from true scleroderma. > > > > > PMID: 7616663 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] > > > > Who loves ya. > > > > Tom > > > > > Jesus Was A Vegetarian!http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh > > > > > Man Is A Herbivore!http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3 > > > > > DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk-Hidequoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
From: ironjustice on 8 Jul 2008 00:57
On Jul 5, 6:18 am, "ironjust...(a)aol.com" <ironjust...(a)aol.com> wrote: porphyria << Porphyria manifests hemolysis and a marker for this is d-dimer. ANOTHER marker in lupus which they .. disregard .. thereby effectively eliminating a diagnosis OF .. hemolysis. "D-dimer" Arthritis Rheum. 2005 Jun 15;53(3):452-9. Links Thrombosis in systemic lupus erythematosus: congenital and acquired risk factors. Afeltra A, Vadacca M, Conti L, Galluzzo S, Mitterhofer AP, Ferri GM, Del Porto F, Caccavo D, Gandolfo GM, Amoroso A. University Campus Bio-Medico, Rome, Italy. a.afeltra(a)unicampus.it OBJECTIVE: To investigate the thrombotic tendency in patients with systemic lupus erythematosus (SLE) by evaluating congenital or acquired abnormalities associated with an increased risk of venous and/or arterial thrombosis. METHODS: A total of 57 patients with SLE were included in the study. Twenty-one patients (37%) had a history of arterial and/or venous thrombosis and 36 patients (63%) did not have such a history. Sera from 50 healthy controls were examined. Protein C, protein S, antithrombin, D-dimer, fibrinogen, homocysteine, anticardiolipin antibodies (aCL), lupus anticoagulant (LAC), prothrombin G20210A, and methylenetetrahydrofolate reductase (MTHFR) C677T gene mutation were evaluated. RESULTS: Protein C, antithrombin, fibrinogen, D-dimer, and homocysteine levels were significantly higher in patients with SLE than in controls. A prothrombin mutation was observed in 2 (4%) of 50 controls and in 6 (11%) of 57 patients. A significantly higher prevalence (P = 0.036) of MTHFR homozygous mutation was observed in patients with SLE (14 [25%] of 57) in comparison with controls (4 [8%] of 50). IgG-aCL and IgM-aCL levels were significantly higher in patients with SLE than in controls (P < 0.0001). The presence of medium-high (> or = 20 IgG phospholipid units/ml) IgG- aCL antibody titers was significantly higher (P = 0.005) in patients with thrombosis (11 [52%] of 21) than in patients without (5 [14%] of 36) thrombosis. LAC was present in 22 (38.5%) of 57 patients and in none of 50 controls. CONCLUSION: In this study, we confirm the association between thrombosis and IgG- aCL at medium-high titers and suggest that the coexistence of other risk factors can affect the expression of thrombosis in patients with SLE. PMID: 15934123 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- J Transl Med. 2004 11 9;2 (1):38 15535889 (P,S,E,B) Cited:1 The role of d-dimer as first marker of thrombophilia in women affected by sterility: implications in pathophysiology and diagnosis of thrombophilia induced sterility. [My paper] Di Micco, D'Uva, Strina, Mollo, Amato, Niglio, De Placido IV Divisione di Medicina Interna e Patologie Epato-Bilio-Metaboliche, Seconda Università di Napoli, Naples, Italy. pdimicco(a)libero.it. BACKGROUND: D-dimer is considered a marker of hypercoagulable state and of endogenous fibrinolysis, so increased d-dimer is detectable in patients affected by thrombosis. Yet, several studies showed that also infertility, in particular secondary infertility due to recurrent fetal losses, has been often related to thrombotic events, in particular in women carrying thrombotic risk factors such as inherited thrombophilia (MTHFRC677T, PTHRA20210G, Factor V Leiden polimorphisms and/or inhAfter this screening we selected 39erited protein C, protein S, AT III deficiency) or acquired thrombophilia (primary antiphospholipid syndrome, acquired protein C, protein S, AT III deficiency, drugs induced thrombophilia). However, because its high predictive negative value in case of suspected thrombosis, increased d-dimer has been often associated to subclinical thrombophilia. The aim of this study is to investigate the role of d-dimer as first marker of thrombophilia in women affected by unexplained infertility and subsequently to search the cause of increased d-dimer, such as inherited and/or acquired thrombophilia. PATIENTS AND METHODS: We selected 79 patients with unexplained primary or secondary infertility. We excluded 40 patients affected by hydrosalpinx, uterine fibroids, uterine malformations, endocrinological and immunological diseases, luteal insufficiency, cytogenetical alterations. All remaining 39 patients were tested for d-dimer and divided in two groups: the patients of group A (25 patients) showed increased plasma d-dimer, in group B were included 14 patients with normal plasma level of d-dimer. After this step all 39 patients were screened for MTHFRC677T, PTHRA20210G, Factor V Leiden polimorphisms, protein C, protein S, AT III, anticardiolipin IgM and IgG, lupus anticoagulant. In the control group were included 15 age matched women without sterility problems referred to our outpatient's section of vascular medicine for suspected deep venous thrombosis. Statistical analysis was based on chi2 test, differences were considered to be significant if p < 0.05. RESULTS: D-dimer was increased in 25/39 and 20/25 showed inherited/acquired thrombophilia while patients with normal d-dimer showed inherited/ acquired thrombophilia in 7/14 (p: < 0.05, s). DISCUSSION: D-dimer is a well known marker of hypercoagulable state, in particular its high predictive negative value in case of suspected thrombosis has been recognised by several reports. Yet, increased d-dimer has been identified also for subclinical thrombophilia besides for vascular thrombosis. Our data, in fact, for the first time suggest an interesting role of d- dimer to identify women affected by unexplained primary or secondary infertility and thrombophilia. So, probably there is a role for d- dimer in these subjects for its predictive positive value. Of course, further data on large based population are needed to confirm our results, because these findings may speed up a diagnostic screening in these patients also for a good cost/effectiveness of this test. Who loves ya. Tom Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh Man Is A Herbivore! http://tinyurl.com/4rq595 DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk > On Jul 5, 6:01 am, "ironjust...(a)aol.com" <ironjust...(a)aol.com> wrote:porphyria<< > > This would be my free bisphosphonate again.http://tinyurl.com/54syvt > > "Avoid fasting, dieting, and a low carbohydrate intake which can > aggravate symptoms. Symptoms may be reduced by eating a regular diet > of adequate carbohydrates. Complex carbohydrates are best, such as > potatoes and grains (bread, pasta, cereal, etc. made from wheat, corn, > oats, rye, and other grains). > > Avoid iron supplements and vitamins containing iron. Also avoid > cookware made with uncoated iron or aluminum, since these metals can > contaminate your food. > > Consider having your serum iron tested if you frequently have diarrhea > or loose stools. Low normal is considered better for people with > porphyrin disorders. Another way to reduce iron levels in the body (if > near or above average) is to slowly cut your meat intake." > > Who loves ya. > Tom > > Jesus Was A Vegetarian!http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh > > Man Is A Herbivore!http://tinyurl.com/4rq595 > > DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk > > > > > On Jun 26, 7:20 pm, ironjustice <ironjust...(a)cashette.com> wrote: > >Porphyria<< > > >http://www.mcsrr.org/resources/articles/S5.html > > >Porphyria, Porphyrinuria and Porphyrinopathy > > Chemical Injury and Disorders of Porphyrin Metabolism > > > Who loves ya. > > Tom > > > Jesus Was A Vegetarian!http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh > > > Man Is A Herbivore!http://tinyurl.com/4rq595 > > > DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk > > > > On Jun 19, 8:48 pm, "ironjust...(a)aol.com" <ironjust...(a)aol.com> > > > wrote:Doesporphyriacutanea tarda .. share .. many .. ? ..common > > > symptoms .. ? << > > > > "One may conceal the presence of the other" > > > > "ASSOCIATION OF LUPUS ERYTHEMATOSUS ANDPORPHYRIA" > > > >http://tinyurl.com/4kqpxh > > > British Journal of Dermatology > > > Volume 82 Issue 2 Page 118-124, February 1970 > > > > To cite this article: G. W. HETHERINGTON, R. L. JETTON, JOH. M KNOX > > > (1970) THE ASSOCIATION OF LUPUS ERYTHEMATOSUS ANDPORPHYRIA > > > British Journal of Dermatology 82 (2) , 118124 doi:10.1111/j. > > > 1365-2133.1970.tb15001.x > > > Abstract > > > THE ASSOCIATION OF LUPUS ERYTHEMATOSUS ANDPORPHYRIA > > > G. W. HETHERINGTON11Department of Dermatology, Baylor College of > > > Medicine, Houston, Texas, U.S.A., R. L. JETTON11Department of > > > Dermatology, Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Texas, U.S.A. and > > > JOH. M KNOX11Department of Dermatology, Baylor College of Medicine, > > > Houston, Texas, U.S.A.1Department of Dermatology, Baylor College of > > > Medicine, Houston, Texas, U.S.A. > > > Abstract > > > SUMMARY.Two cases of chronic discoid lupus erythematosus associated > > > withporphyriacutanea tarda are described and the literature on this > > > association is reviewed. > > > > The coexistence of these 2 conditions may be fortuitous or may be > > > determined by some unknown mechanism. Since both conditions may > > > present clinically as photosensitivity, one may conceal the presence > > > of the other if their possible association is not considered. > > > > Who loves ya. > > > Tom > > > > Jesus Was A Vegetarian!http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh > > > > Man Is A Herbivore!http://tinyurl.com/4rq595 > > > > DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk > > > > > On Jun 17, 11:00 pm, ironjustice <teamtan...(a)hotmail.com> > > > > wrote:Porphyriacutanea tarda << > > > > > Just in case anyone is unaware ..porphyriacutanea tarda is iron > > > > overload. > > > > > On Jun 17, 11:00 pm, ironjustice <teamtan...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > Elevated uroporphyrin due to PCT << > > > > > We also just learned throught the mistaken feeding of fish to mice > > > > that meat causes elevated uroporphyrin. > > > > We also just learned that when the iron is too high the vitamin C in > > > > the body cannot stop the body from having elevated uroporphyrin. > > > > > Sooo .. is it the iron overload /porphyriacutanea tarda which is > > > > causing the increasedsclerodermain lupus .. ? > > > > > Doesporphyriacutanea tarda .. share .. many .. ? ..common > > > > symptoms .. ? > > > > > We know there is a VERY high rate of anemia .. in lupus. > > > > > Which we pretty much have established seems to be kinda .. strange ... > > > > due to the fact .. EVERYONE with 'similar' diseases are in FACT .. > > > > all .. iron OVERLOADED. > > > > > Sooo ..if one were to disregard this hyperferritinemia in lupus AS... > > > > not to be recognized .. but just the OPPOSITE and USE this iron > > > > overload marker AS an iron overload marker .. and what are you left > > > > with .. ? > > > > > EVERY marker now points to iron overload as a LARGE problem in lupus > > > > as opposed to .. "they are all iron deficient" .. > > > > > Just the OPPOSITE of what .. 'they'.. TELL you .. > > > > > Scary .. but seems to be true .. by using .. logic. > > > > > Hyperferritinemia used as a marker shows iron overload in almost all > > > > SLE patients. > > > > > The rest .. ? > > > > > Seeing the marker they DO use for hyperferritinemia is SOOOOOO .. > > > > high .. then we can pretty much be sure all the rest are over the low > > > > marker .. > > > > > Logical .. ? > > > > > Yep .. > > > > Who loves ya. > > > > Tom > > > > > Jesus Was A Vegetarian!http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh > > > > > Man Is A Herbivore!http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3 > > > > > DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk > > > > > > "Porphyriacutanea tarda should be considered forscleroderma" > > > > > > Nippon Rinsho. 1995 Jun;53(6):1463-7.Links > > > > > [Sclerodermaandporphyriacutanea tarda][Article in Japanese] > > > > > > Tsukazaki N, Okada S, Yoshida H. > > > > > Department of Dermatology, Nagasaki University School of Medicine.. > > > > > > Examination was made of sclerodermoid changes inporphyriacutanea > > > > > tarda (PCT) and PCT in association with truescleroderma. Although > > > > > sclerodermoid change in PCT is rare in Japan, it is important in the > > > > > diagnosis of PCT when there are few other clinical signs > > > > > characteristic of PCT. In the present case, slight improvement in > > > > > cutaneous sclerosis was noted following treatment for PCT, but > > > > > pulmonary changes somewhat intensified. The reason for the association > > > > > of PCT with progressive systemic sclerosis (PSS) remains obscure. > > > > > Elevated uroporphyrin due to PCT may possibly increase cutaneous > > > > > sclerosis in PSS. A diagnosis of PCT should be considered for patients > > > > > presentingscleroderma, since it is difficult to distinguish > > > > > sclerodermoid changes from truescleroderma. > > > > > > PMID: 7616663 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] > > > > > Who loves ya. > > > > > Tom > > > > > > Jesus Was A Vegetarian!http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh > > > > > > Man Is A Herbivore!http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3 > > > > > > DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk-Hidequotedtext - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - |