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From: Your Name Here=Harvey on 17 Jan 2006 16:05 I am currently finishing downloading the Time Life series of video files of Lost Civilisations as well as some other ones... That covers ancient China, Tibet, Agean, Mesopotamia, Greece, Roman, Maya, Inca, Egyptian and Africa. I watched a bit of the Maya one, which does highlight how barbaric they actually were with their blood sacrifices - the Incas are noted for the same, making what Hitler did, seem quite normal. I think the case may be, that they started off being peaceful? and they degnerated into human sacrifices, etc - though, to confirm this may be somewhat difficult? When you are locked into a society that is corrupt and insane, how do you survive within it? We don't know all that much about different civilisations that have lived and died on this planet, and it would be good to know what exactly did happen? to them... Popular opinion would have it,that, we know all there is to know about them, and it is nothing fantastic at all. Just mankind being it's corrupt moral self, dominating one race or tribe over another and wiping each other out eventually. I don't think that is the whole and true story. Harvey
From: NYC XYZ on 17 Jan 2006 18:37 Your Name Here=Harvey wrote: > > > And what is the difference between an authoritive view and a > simplified overview of the same subject? > > Harvey Indeed, considering the subject line of the post! Though it is wisdom to ("really") know, there is no security in knowledge, either.
From: Your Name Here=Harvey on 17 Jan 2006 19:22 In article <1137541047.492369.13550(a)g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, jack_foreigner(a)yahoo.com says... > > >Your Name Here=Harvey wrote: >> >> >> And what is the difference between an authoritive view and a >> simplified overview of the same subject? >> >> Harvey > > >Indeed, considering the subject line of the post! > >Though it is wisdom to ("really") know, there is no security in >knowledge, either. > It is interesting to really know things. eg. I've downloaded the History Channel series about secret aircraft during WWII. There's about 5 programs which show the various secret jet projects that were underway, showing Russian, Japanese, German and Allied jetplane developments. The Germans were far ahead, about to mass produce their second generation jetfighters when the war ended. There are many secrets about WWII still being kept. Maybe in another 50 years or less, the secrets will finally be revealed? Harvey
From: NYC XYZ on 17 Jan 2006 20:31 Your Name Here=Harvey wrote: > > > It is interesting to really know things. I agree. At the same time, I do wonder about Krishnamurti's statements cautioning making an idol out of knowledge -- a la Faust. You probably don't have that problem. But me, I have a conniption when the world isn't what I thought I knew it to be. > eg. I've downloaded the History Channel series about secret aircraft > during WWII. Yeah, too bad LucasArts' "Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe" was only ever an arcade game, really -- and now OOP to boot! >There's about 5 programs which show the various secret > jet projects that were underway, showing Russian, Japanese, German and > Allied jetplane developments. The Germans were far ahead, about to mass > produce their second generation jetfighters when the war ended. Mass produce nothing -- Hitler was a nut; he should have relied on his advisers (though, admittedly, he was right in the beginning) and left jet aircraft in the air superiority role instead of trying to get them to be bombers. The same thing with his armor -- kept ordering tanks, then tank destroyers, then tanks again. Naval strategy was bad, too -- tried to compete with the British with his own surface fleet, then relied exclusively on submarines, etc. Just goes to show once again that the race doesn't necessarily go to the strong.... > There are many secrets about WWII still being kept. Yeah, like how Hitler was Jewish (by his own laws, not rabbinical pronouncement), I'm sure. Check out "Hitler's Jewish Soldiers" -- won a military history book award. > Maybe in another 50 years or less, the secrets will finally be > revealed? I bet darkfalz knows a lot...hehehehe! > Harvey
From: Your Name Here=Harvey on 17 Jan 2006 23:15
In article <1137547877.868156.218050(a)z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, jack_foreigner(a)yahoo.com says... > > >Your Name Here=Harvey wrote: >> >> >> It is interesting to really know things. > >I agree. At the same time, I do wonder about Krishnamurti's statements >cautioning making an idol out of knowledge -- a la Faust. > >You probably don't have that problem. But me, I have a conniption when >the world isn't what I thought I knew it to be. > >> eg. I've downloaded the History Channel series about secret aircraft >> during WWII. > >Yeah, too bad LucasArts' "Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe" was only >ever an arcade game, really -- and now OOP to boot! > >>There's about 5 programs which show the various secret >> jet projects that were underway, showing Russian, Japanese, German and >> Allied jetplane developments. The Germans were far ahead, about to mass >> produce their second generation jetfighters when the war ended. > >Mass produce nothing -- Hitler was a nut; he should have relied on his >advisers (though, admittedly, he was right in the beginning) and left >jet aircraft in the air superiority role instead of trying to get them >to be bombers. Well the allied intelligence did provide the info that got his factories (wherever they were) destroyed. One can only guess that had this not been done, some of these secret weapons would have been tested in warfare. The program also noted how German industry wasn't all that organised, as too how the projects got selected to be put into production, etc. In that they were competing against each other, and not in support. > >The same thing with his armor -- kept ordering tanks, then tank >destroyers, then tanks again. Naval strategy was bad, too -- tried to >compete with the British with his own surface fleet, then relied >exclusively on submarines, etc. > >Just goes to show once again that the race doesn't necessarily go to >the strong.... > >> There are many secrets about WWII still being kept. > >Yeah, like how Hitler was Jewish (by his own laws, not rabbinical >pronouncement), I'm sure. > >Check out "Hitler's Jewish Soldiers" -- won a military history book >award. > >> Maybe in another 50 years or less, the secrets will finally be >> revealed? > >I bet darkfalz knows a lot...hehehehe! > Yeah, everyone thinks they know the Hitler story - but there's one about him, that says he was manipulated (and his supporters) to do all that evil. >> Harvey > |