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From: Josh's Mom on 19 Jul 2008 04:18 On Jun 11, 4:13 pm, "May" <May.T.Co...(a)Blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > People who commit suicide don't realise that suicide is never justified; > however hard life may seem at the time. Not even those high born Japanese > who commit ceremonial suicide in order to atone for some disgrace. It's not > a brave person who commits suicide, only a weak person because they are > giving in. Many don't realise that people only truly learn by hardships and > strictness. We don't learn anything by kindness alone. Hardships, pain, > disabilities; to name a few all give motivation, determination to win. > > We come to this Earth to develop our immortal soul and by committing suicide > means we have failed, but think of this: If you heat metal in a furnace do > you do so because the metal has erred and must be punished, or do you do it > in order to improve the qualities of the material? Such is life! > > Cutting your life short only creates more problems. All I ask is that you > read this free book beforehand via this linkhttp://www.lobsangrampa.org/data/IBelieve.pdf I must tell you that you have no clue what the people who choose to suicide have to endure. Yes, it would be good to save anyone and everyone from suicide. But hardships is so not even close to the pain. The pain they are in is beyond what you can ever imagine. I think many don't actually want to die - they want to stop the pain. The idea that the people who have made this choice and followed thru are weak is crazy. They are brave. Tell me - could you stand up on a building and jump off? Could you take a gun and pull the trigger and blow your head off? Could you set yourself on fire with the purpose to die and end the pain? If you think about it - it really isn't the easy way out. They are desperate and in more pain than anything you can imagine. Many of them have suffered with this pain for years and years. I really don't think you should talk about things you know nothing about. I am guessing by what you wrote you are trying to discourage suicide. Do you really believe that if someone read what you wrote that was considering suicide that this would help or make them feel further alone and push them more into the final act? We have children as young as 8 years old that suicide. Suicide is an epidemic and it can happen even in your family. Do you know in the United States someone takes their own life every 12 minutes? Do you have clue what the global numbers are? Do you even care? If truly it was important to you to help prevent suicide there are things that need to happen. Education for many to know that there is help out there and that things can get better for some. Our Professionals in the mental health care - do you know how many are turned away that beg for help? Do you know that even with insurance and asking for help how many of these so called professionals don't really listen and just give out more pills? Even when told month after month - year after year that the patient is feeling worse - they just say keep taking the same pills. What about all our military hero's that have gone and fought for our freedom - whether or not we agree with the war - they come home and their is no help for them. Our own government does not help them. Yes they can get on a list and if in crisis - the list maybe a year away. Some just aren't even told that they can even get on a list. Those that do get help - it doesn't help. Much more research needs to be done. My oldest son - my heart and soul, died by taking his life. A part of me died when he died. As much as I don't want him to be gone and want him with me again. I do understand what he believed at that time when he made his decision and his pain was beyond what even my pain is with grieving him for the rest of my life. Trust me my pain is horrible - I want my son back. Yes I do know he is with God, so before you even start the hell issue because I am betting that will be your words. My son is now at peace and with God and I will be with him again when my time on this Earth is up. If you have children, I pray you never truly understand how much pain I and all parents feel when a child dies. I know that his hell was actually here on Earth and his pain was unbearable. He felt that dying was his only solution to end that pain. So many believe that. I resent the way you speak about this issue. You have no knowledge, understanding or even compassion. Do you really believe a weak person could pull that trigger or jump off that building or whatever else they did to die? No they were desperate and they were brave. Most certainly not weak. Do you really think that anyone has ever killed themselves because of some hardships in life? Please get educated on this subject before you speak about such things. You are doing more harm than any good. I don't think that is your intention. Josh's Mom Love is Stronger Than Death
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