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From: Jofirey on 4 Jul 2008 15:16 "Harvey R. Stone" <hrstone(a)swbell.net> wrote in message news:2Qqbk.31325$ZE5.28519(a)nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com... > > "Robert Miles" <robertmiles(a)bellsouthNOSPAM.net> wrote in message > news:T8qbk.10367$CC.8946(a)bignews9.bellsouth.net... >> >> "Harvey R. Stone" <hrstone(a)swbell.net> wrote in message >> news:xHobk.17080$Ri.8315(a)flpi146.ffdc.sbc.com... >>> Reported for off topic posting, cross posting.... >>> Path: >>> flpi142.ffdc.sbc.com!flpi088.ffdc.sbc.com!prodigy.com!flpi089.ffdc.sbc.com!prodigy.net!newshub.sdsu.edu!postnews.google.com!z32g2000prh.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail >>> From: ironjustice <ironjustice(a)cashette.com> >> >> Why are you trying to make those of who have her/him/it killfiled >> see what she/he/it posted? Do you want to join her/him/it in >> the killfiles > > You do what seems best for you. I am giving an opinion which seems > to be painful to some people while giving a way,,, the only way IMO > to take action against an abuser of the newsgroups. > Harv > Harv, at some point, couldn't you just report him and stop feeding him for a while? I'm pretty sure being ignored would upset him as much if not more than all the name calling. Consider this a request for everyone to put their favorite trolls away for a few days and enjoy the weekend. Jo
From: Harvey R. Stone on 4 Jul 2008 15:38 > Harv, at some point, couldn't you just report him and stop feeding him > for a while? > > I'm pretty sure being ignored would upset him as much if not more than > all the name calling. > > Consider this a request for everyone to put their favorite trolls away for > a few days and enjoy the weekend. > > Jo I have not responded to him lately but to others that think they can respond to him like a normal person does and end up being abused with foul language from a sick mind. I have given them a way to actually do something about him. I am sorry that it tires you of the battle for minds and with a sick mind. I will try to make it less in our newsgroup but then you or diane g or someone else will think they can talk sense with him and end up getting verbally abused and I get angry again. So it goes. Harv
From: ironjustice on 6 Jul 2008 16:09 On Jul 4, 7:03 am, ironjustice <teamtan...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: thrombosis101 << http://www.bioscience.org/1999/v4/e/hillbom/fulltext.htm 1. ABSTRACT Free radicals are involved in the formation of both atherosclerosis and thrombosis. Therefore, considerable interest has recently been aroused by their role in the development of ischemic cerebral injury. Experimental observations suggest that antioxidants could reduce cerebral arterial vasospasm, reduce infarct size and prevent the development of both atherosclerosis and thrombosis. Who loves ya. Tom Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh Man Is A Herbivore! http://tinyurl.com/4rq595 DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk > On Jul 3, 5:20 pm, ironjustice <ironjust...(a)cashette.com> wrote: > thrombosis101 << > > http://siberiantigernaturals.com/omega3.htm > > "In nature found in most green leafy vegetables" > > Omega-3 Fatty Acids and Health: an Overview > > Anti-clotting (thrombolytic) effect: Omega-3s help to avoidthrombosis > (formation of blood clots) by preventing platelets (thrombocytes) from > sticking together and forming blood clots. Blood clots, which may > result in stroke, heart attack, or pulmonary embolism (PE), are the #1 > cause of death in thw Western world, but most of them are preventable > by including omega-3 fatty acids and other anti-clotting foods and > supplements into one's diet. > > Who loves ya. > Tom > > Jesus Was A Vegetarian!http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh > > Man Is A Herbivore!http://tinyurl.com/4rq595 > > DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk > > > > > On Jul 3, 3:31 pm, ironjustice <ironjust...(a)cashette.com> wrote: > > thrombosis101 << > > >http://tinyurl.com/5jjr3p > > > Venous Thromboembolic Disease > > > DEFINITION > > "Blood clot" > > Deep veinthrombosis(DVT) and pulmonary embolism represent different > > manifestations of the same clinical entity, which is referred to as > > venous thromboembolism. > > "Blood clot" > > In patients with this condition, venousthrombosisoccurs when red > > blood cells, fibrin, and to a lesser extent platelets and leukocytes > > form a mass within an intact cardiovascular system. > > "Blood clot" > > A proximal DVT in the leg is one that is located within the popliteal, > > femoral (including the superficial femoral), or iliac veins. > > "Blood clot in lung" > > A pulmonary embolism occurs when a segment of a thrombus within the > > deep venous system detaches from the vessel, travels to the lungs, and > > lodges within the pulmonary arteries. > > "Blood clots in legs go to lungs and kill you" > > The pelvic and deep veins of the lower extremities are the source of > > more than 70% of all pulmonary emboli.1 > > "Blood clots in heart" > > The superior vena cava, upper extremity veins, and right chambers of > > the heart are less common sources. > > > Who loves ya. > > Tom > > > Jesus Was A Vegetarian!http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh > > > Man Is A Herbivore!http://tinyurl.com/4rq595 > > > DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk > > > > On Jul 3, 7:46 am, ironjustice <ironjust...(a)cashette.com> wrote: > > >thrombosis<< > > > > Increased red blood cells causethrombosis. > > > THAT is **precisely** WHY .. epo .. 'fell from grace'. > > > Epo builds red blood cells and it causes ..thrombosis. > > > > Black Box Warning Ordered for Aranesp, Epogen, and Procrit > > > By Peggy Peck, Managing Editor, MedPage Today > > > Published: March 09, 2007 > > > Reviewed by Robert Jasmer, MD; Associate Clinical Professor of > > > Medicine, University of California, San Francisco Earn CME/CE credit > > > for reading medical news > > > >http://www.medpagetoday.com/ProductAlert/Prescriptions/tb/5231 > > > > ROCKVILLE, Md., March 9 -- The FDA warned today that aggressive use of > > > erythropoiesis-stimulating agents to raise hemoglobin to a target of > > > 12 g/dL or higher was associated with "serious and life-threatening > > > side-effects and/or death." > > > > The warning states: > > > > Avoid serious cardiovascular and arterial and venous thromboembolic > > > events by using the lowest dose of Aranesp, Epogen, or Procrit that > > > will gradually raise the hemoglobin concentration to the lowest level > > > sufficient to avoid the need for blood transfusion. > > > > Who loves ya. > > > Tom > > > > Jesus Was A Vegetarian!http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh > > > > Man Is A Herbivore!http://tinyurl.com/4rq595 > > > > DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk > > > > > On Jul 3, 7:28 am, "Robert Miles" <robertmi...(a)bellsouthNOSPAM.net> > > > > wrote:[snip] Off topic in alt.support.diabetes too.<< > > > > > Meet Robert .. he knows NOTHING about diabetes .. he only .. has > > > > diabetes. > > > > Through .. stupidity .. evidentally .. > > > > -------------------------------- > > > > Diabetes Raises the Risk ofThrombosisin Atheromatous Coronary > > > > Arteries > > > > > A study was undertaken at the Massachusetts General Hospital to > > > > quantify the lipid composition and macrophage infiltration in > > > > atheromatous plaques of culprit coronary arteries removed from 47 > > > > patients diagnosed with diabetes who were subjected to atherectomy for > > > > acute ischemic events. Lesions were also studied from 48 nondiabetic > > > > patients matched clinically and demographically with the diabetic > > > > patients. > > > > > Four types of tissue in atheromatous plaque were identified by > > > > staining: tissue with few cells and densely-stained collagen; tissue > > > > with abundant smooth muscle cells and a loose connective tissue > > > > matrix; lipid-rich atheroma with acellular debris, cholesterol clefts, > > > > and no preserved connective tissue matrix; and thrombus. > > > > > It was found that lipid-rich atheroma and macrophages occupied larger > > > > percentages of total area of specimens from diabetic than nondiabetic > > > > patients. The incidence of thrombus was greater in diabetic than in > > > > nondiabetic subjects (62% vs 40%, P=0.04). Whether diabetic patients > > > > had been treated with insulin, a sulfonylurea, or diet had no effect > > > > on plaque composition, macrophage infiltration, or thrombus presence. > > > > > The finding that coronary tissue from patients diagnosed with diabetes > > > > exhibits a larger content of lipid-rich atheroma, macrophage > > > > infiltration, and subsequentthrombosisthan tissue from patients > > > > without diabetes suggests that diabetes increases vulnerability for > > > > coronarythrombosis. > > > > > Moreno PR, Murcia AM, Palacios IF, et al. Coronary composition and > > > > macrophage infiltration in atherectomy specimens from patients with > > > > diabetes mellitus. Circulation. 2000;102:2180-2184. > > > > The above summary is adapted from the cited reference. > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Additional Information > > > > Diabetes Accelerates Smooth Muscle Accumulation in Lesions of > > > > Atherosclerosis: Lack of Direct Growth-Promoting Effects of High > > > > Glucose Levels > > > > > Cardiologists Should Become as Familiar With Diabetes as They Are > > > > With Dyslipidemia and Hypertension > > > > > Coronary Atherosclerosis in Type 2 Diabetes: Angiographic Findings > > > > and Clinical Outcome > > > > > Who loves ya. > > > > Tom > > > > > Jesus Was A Vegetarian!http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh > > > > > Man Is A Herbivore!http://tinyurl.com/4rq595 > > > > > DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk > > > > > > "Harvey R. Stone" <hrst...(a)swbell.net> wrote in messagenews:Dr3bk..6309$LG4.1736(a)nlpi065.nbdc.sbc.com...> Reported for being off topic in Alt..support.arthritis,,,, cross posting > > > > > > after being warned not to do it. > > > > > > > Path: > > > > > > nlpi059.nbdc.sbc.com!nlpi062.nbdc.sbc.com!prodigy.com!nlpi057.nbdc.sbc.com!prodigy.net!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail > > > > > > From: ironjustice <teamtan...(a)hotmail.com> > > > > > > [snip] > > > > > Off topic in alt.support.diabetes too. Has ignored requests not to > > > > > post off topic messages there. > > > > > > Note that groups-ab...(a)google.com is slow and not very effective > > > > > at responding to reports of spam posted through Google groups, so > > > > > I would expect them to be unlikely to act on reports of being off topic. > > > > > However, it does help to report the same spammers over and over > > > > > for different messages for at least 6 weeks, so perhaps > > > > > groups-ab...(a)google.com just can't keep up with reading all their > > > > > incoming mail.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
From: ironjustice on 6 Jul 2008 16:27 On Jul 6, 1:09 pm, ironjustice <ironjust...(a)aol.com> wrote: iron chelation prevents thrombosis << "Deferoxamine (DFX) prevented thrombosis" Free radical attenuation prevents thrombosis and enables photochemical inhibition of vein graft intimal hyperplasia. Journal of Vascular Surgery Giuseppe R Nigri, MD, PhDa, Sylvie Kossodo, PhDa, Peter Waterman, BSa, Patrick Fungaloi, MDa, Glenn M LaMuraglia, MDa Volume 39, Issue 4, Pages 843-849 (April 2004) Received 4 September 2003; accepted 11 November 2003. Abstract Objective Photodynamic therapy (PDT) inhibits post-interventional stenosis in balloon-injured arteries, but causes thrombosis when applied to vein grafts. This may result from added free radicals produced during the hypoxia-reperfusion injury of vein graft implantation. The purposes of this study were to determine whether a free radical scavenger could inhibit vein graft thrombosis, enabling PDT to inhibit intimal hyperplasia; and to investigate the role of neutrophils, also a source of radicals, in this setting. Methods Jugular vein bypass grafts of the common carotid artery were performed in rats. PDT was administered in situ to the vein graft and artery in the presence or absence of deferoxamine (DFX), an OH- scavenger. Results PDT alone induced thrombosis in all untreated vein grafts. DFX administration or inhibition of neutrophil adhesion to the graft prevented PDT-induced vein graft thrombosis. Moreover, DFX given together with PDT significantly decreased vein graft intimal hyperplasia (0.010 mm2 ± 0.005 mm2; P < .002) as compared with DFX alone (0.113 mm2 ± 0.009 mm2) or untreated control animals (0.112 ± 0.007 mm2). Conclusions OH- radicals and neutrophils both have key roles in PDT-induced vein graft thrombosis. By inhibiting free radical production or neutrophil adhesion to the graft, adequate PDT can be administered for successful inhibition of vein graft intimal hyperplasia. Available online Feb 6, 2004. a Division of Vascular Surgery of General Surgical Services, Massachusetts General Hospital, Harvard Medical School, Boston, Mass, USA Who loves ya. Tom Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh Man Is A Herbivore! http://tinyurl.com/4rq595 DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk > On Jul 4, 7:03 am, ironjustice <teamtan...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > thrombosis101 << > > http://www.bioscience.org/1999/v4/e/hillbom/fulltext.htm > > 1. ABSTRACT > > Free radicals are involved in the formation of both atherosclerosis > and thrombosis. Therefore, considerable interest has recently been > aroused by their role in the development of ischemic cerebral injury. > Experimental observations suggest that antioxidants could reduce > cerebral arterial vasospasm, reduce infarct size and prevent the > development of both atherosclerosis and thrombosis. > > Who loves ya. > Tom > > Jesus Was A Vegetarian!http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh > > Man Is A Herbivore!http://tinyurl.com/4rq595 > > DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk > > > > > On Jul 3, 5:20 pm, ironjustice <ironjust...(a)cashette.com> wrote: > > thrombosis101 << > > >http://siberiantigernaturals.com/omega3.htm > > > "In nature found in most green leafy vegetables" > > > Omega-3 Fatty Acids and Health: an Overview > > > Anti-clotting (thrombolytic) effect: Omega-3s help to avoidthrombosis > > (formation of blood clots) by preventing platelets (thrombocytes) from > > sticking together and forming blood clots. Blood clots, which may > > result in stroke, heart attack, or pulmonary embolism (PE), are the #1 > > cause of death in thw Western world, but most of them are preventable > > by including omega-3 fatty acids and other anti-clotting foods and > > supplements into one's diet. > > > Who loves ya. > > Tom > > > Jesus Was A Vegetarian!http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh > > > Man Is A Herbivore!http://tinyurl.com/4rq595 > > > DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk > > > > On Jul 3, 3:31 pm, ironjustice <ironjust...(a)cashette.com> wrote: > > > thrombosis101 << > > > >http://tinyurl.com/5jjr3p > > > > Venous Thromboembolic Disease > > > > DEFINITION > > > "Blood clot" > > > Deep veinthrombosis(DVT) and pulmonary embolism represent different > > > manifestations of the same clinical entity, which is referred to as > > > venous thromboembolism. > > > "Blood clot" > > > In patients with this condition, venousthrombosisoccurs when red > > > blood cells, fibrin, and to a lesser extent platelets and leukocytes > > > form a mass within an intact cardiovascular system. > > > "Blood clot" > > > A proximal DVT in the leg is one that is located within the popliteal, > > > femoral (including the superficial femoral), or iliac veins. > > > "Blood clot in lung" > > > A pulmonary embolism occurs when a segment of a thrombus within the > > > deep venous system detaches from the vessel, travels to the lungs, and > > > lodges within the pulmonary arteries. > > > "Blood clots in legs go to lungs and kill you" > > > The pelvic and deep veins of the lower extremities are the source of > > > more than 70% of all pulmonary emboli.1 > > > "Blood clots in heart" > > > The superior vena cava, upper extremity veins, and right chambers of > > > the heart are less common sources. > > > > Who loves ya. > > > Tom > > > > Jesus Was A Vegetarian!http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh > > > > Man Is A Herbivore!http://tinyurl.com/4rq595 > > > > DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk > > > > > On Jul 3, 7:46 am, ironjustice <ironjust...(a)cashette.com> wrote: > > > >thrombosis<< > > > > > Increased red blood cells causethrombosis. > > > > THAT is **precisely** WHY .. epo .. 'fell from grace'. > > > > Epo builds red blood cells and it causes ..thrombosis. > > > > > Black Box Warning Ordered for Aranesp, Epogen, and Procrit > > > > By Peggy Peck, Managing Editor, MedPage Today > > > > Published: March 09, 2007 > > > > Reviewed by Robert Jasmer, MD; Associate Clinical Professor of > > > > Medicine, University of California, San Francisco Earn CME/CE credit > > > > for reading medical news > > > > >http://www.medpagetoday.com/ProductAlert/Prescriptions/tb/5231 > > > > > ROCKVILLE, Md., March 9 -- The FDA warned today that aggressive use of > > > > erythropoiesis-stimulating agents to raise hemoglobin to a target of > > > > 12 g/dL or higher was associated with "serious and life-threatening > > > > side-effects and/or death." > > > > > The warning states: > > > > > Avoid serious cardiovascular and arterial and venous thromboembolic > > > > events by using the lowest dose of Aranesp, Epogen, or Procrit that > > > > will gradually raise the hemoglobin concentration to the lowest level > > > > sufficient to avoid the need for blood transfusion. > > > > > Who loves ya. > > > > Tom > > > > > Jesus Was A Vegetarian!http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh > > > > > Man Is A Herbivore!http://tinyurl.com/4rq595 > > > > > DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk > > > > > > On Jul 3, 7:28 am, "Robert Miles" <robertmi...(a)bellsouthNOSPAM.net> > > > > > wrote:[snip] Off topic in alt.support.diabetes too.<< > > > > > > Meet Robert .. he knows NOTHING about diabetes .. he only .. has > > > > > diabetes. > > > > > Through .. stupidity .. evidentally .. > > > > > -------------------------------- > > > > > Diabetes Raises the Risk ofThrombosisin Atheromatous Coronary > > > > > Arteries > > > > > > A study was undertaken at the Massachusetts General Hospital to > > > > > quantify the lipid composition and macrophage infiltration in > > > > > atheromatous plaques of culprit coronary arteries removed from 47 > > > > > patients diagnosed with diabetes who were subjected to atherectomy for > > > > > acute ischemic events. Lesions were also studied from 48 nondiabetic > > > > > patients matched clinically and demographically with the diabetic > > > > > patients. > > > > > > Four types of tissue in atheromatous plaque were identified by > > > > > staining: tissue with few cells and densely-stained collagen; tissue > > > > > with abundant smooth muscle cells and a loose connective tissue > > > > > matrix; lipid-rich atheroma with acellular debris, cholesterol clefts, > > > > > and no preserved connective tissue matrix; and thrombus. > > > > > > It was found that lipid-rich atheroma and macrophages occupied larger > > > > > percentages of total area of specimens from diabetic than nondiabetic > > > > > patients. The incidence of thrombus was greater in diabetic than in > > > > > nondiabetic subjects (62% vs 40%, P=0.04). Whether diabetic patients > > > > > had been treated with insulin, a sulfonylurea, or diet had no effect > > > > > on plaque composition, macrophage infiltration, or thrombus presence. > > > > > > The finding that coronary tissue from patients diagnosed with diabetes > > > > > exhibits a larger content of lipid-rich atheroma, macrophage > > > > > infiltration, and subsequentthrombosisthan tissue from patients > > > > > without diabetes suggests that diabetes increases vulnerability for > > > > > coronarythrombosis. > > > > > > Moreno PR, Murcia AM, Palacios IF, et al. Coronary composition and > > > > > macrophage infiltration in atherectomy specimens from patients with > > > > > diabetes mellitus. Circulation. 2000;102:2180-2184. > > > > > The above summary is adapted from the cited reference. > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > Additional Information > > > > > Diabetes Accelerates Smooth Muscle Accumulation in Lesions of > > > > > Atherosclerosis: Lack of Direct Growth-Promoting Effects of High > > > > > Glucose Levels > > > > > > Cardiologists Should Become as Familiar With Diabetes as They Are > > > > > With Dyslipidemia and Hypertension > > > > > > Coronary Atherosclerosis in Type 2 Diabetes: Angiographic Findings > > > > > and Clinical Outcome > > > > > > Who loves ya. > > > > > Tom > > > > > > Jesus Was A Vegetarian!http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh > > > > > > Man Is A Herbivore!http://tinyurl.com/4rq595 > > > > > > DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk > > > > > > > "Harvey R. Stone" <hrst...(a)swbell.net> wrote in messagenews:Dr3bk.6309$LG4.1736(a)nlpi065.nbdc.sbc.com...> Reported for being off topic in Alt.support.arthritis,,,, cross posting > > > > > > > after being warned not to do it. > > > > > > > > Path: > > > > > > > nlpi059.nbdc.sbc.com!nlpi062.nbdc.sbc.com!prodigy.com!nlpi057..nbdc.sbc.com!------prodigy.net!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews..com!postnews.g-o-o-g-l-e-.com!l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail > > > > > > > From: ironjustice <teamtan...(a)hotmail.com> > > > > > > > [snip] > > > > > > Off topic in alt.support.diabetes too. Has ignored requests not to > > > > > > post off topic messages there. > > > > > > > Note that groups-ab...(a)google.com is slow and not very effective > > > > > > at responding to reports of spam posted through Google groups, so > > > > > > I would expect them to be unlikely to act on reports of being off topic. > > > > > > However, it does help to report the same spammers over and over > > > > > > for different messages for at least 6 weeks, so perhaps > > > > > > groups-ab...(a)google.com just can't keep up with reading all their > > > > > > incoming mail.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
From: Harvey R. Stone on 7 Jul 2008 12:58
Keep on reporting Chief,,,,, We can only do what we can do. Harv "ironjustice" <ironjustice(a)aol.com> wrote in message news:ae91c550-dc31-4ffb-8d18-ce433175af52(a)c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com... On Jul 4, 7:03 am, ironjustice <teamtan...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: thrombosis101 << http://www.bioscience.org/1999/v4/e/hillbom/fulltext.htm 1. ABSTRACT Free radicals are involved in the formation of both atherosclerosis and thrombosis. Therefore, considerable interest has recently been aroused by their role in the development of ischemic cerebral injury. Experimental observations suggest that antioxidants could reduce cerebral arterial vasospasm, reduce infarct size and prevent the development of both atherosclerosis and thrombosis. Who loves ya. Tom Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh Man Is A Herbivore! http://tinyurl.com/4rq595 DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk > On Jul 3, 5:20 pm, ironjustice <ironjust...(a)cashette.com> wrote: > thrombosis101 << > > http://siberiantigernaturals.com/omega3.htm > > "In nature found in most green leafy vegetables" > > Omega-3 Fatty Acids and Health: an Overview > > Anti-clotting (thrombolytic) effect: Omega-3s help to avoidthrombosis > (formation of blood clots) by preventing platelets (thrombocytes) from > sticking together and forming blood clots. Blood clots, which may > result in stroke, heart attack, or pulmonary embolism (PE), are the #1 > cause of death in thw Western world, but most of them are preventable > by including omega-3 fatty acids and other anti-clotting foods and > supplements into one's diet. > > Who loves ya. > Tom > > Jesus Was A Vegetarian!http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh > > Man Is A Herbivore!http://tinyurl.com/4rq595 > > DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk > > > > > On Jul 3, 3:31 pm, ironjustice <ironjust...(a)cashette.com> wrote: > > thrombosis101 << > > >http://tinyurl.com/5jjr3p > > > Venous Thromboembolic Disease > > > DEFINITION > > "Blood clot" > > Deep veinthrombosis(DVT) and pulmonary embolism represent different > > manifestations of the same clinical entity, which is referred to as > > venous thromboembolism. > > "Blood clot" > > In patients with this condition, venousthrombosisoccurs when red > > blood cells, fibrin, and to a lesser extent platelets and leukocytes > > form a mass within an intact cardiovascular system. > > "Blood clot" > > A proximal DVT in the leg is one that is located within the popliteal, > > femoral (including the superficial femoral), or iliac veins. > > "Blood clot in lung" > > A pulmonary embolism occurs when a segment of a thrombus within the > > deep venous system detaches from the vessel, travels to the lungs, and > > lodges within the pulmonary arteries. > > "Blood clots in legs go to lungs and kill you" > > The pelvic and deep veins of the lower extremities are the source of > > more than 70% of all pulmonary emboli.1 > > "Blood clots in heart" > > The superior vena cava, upper extremity veins, and right chambers of > > the heart are less common sources. > > > Who loves ya. > > Tom > > > Jesus Was A Vegetarian!http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh > > > Man Is A Herbivore!http://tinyurl.com/4rq595 > > > DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk > > > > On Jul 3, 7:46 am, ironjustice <ironjust...(a)cashette.com> wrote: > > >thrombosis<< > > > > Increased red blood cells causethrombosis. > > > THAT is **precisely** WHY .. epo .. 'fell from grace'. > > > Epo builds red blood cells and it causes ..thrombosis. > > > > Black Box Warning Ordered for Aranesp, Epogen, and Procrit > > > By Peggy Peck, Managing Editor, MedPage Today > > > Published: March 09, 2007 > > > Reviewed by Robert Jasmer, MD; Associate Clinical Professor of > > > Medicine, University of California, San Francisco Earn CME/CE credit > > > for reading medical news > > > >http://www.medpagetoday.com/ProductAlert/Prescriptions/tb/5231 > > > > ROCKVILLE, Md., March 9 -- The FDA warned today that aggressive use of > > > erythropoiesis-stimulating agents to raise hemoglobin to a target of > > > 12 g/dL or higher was associated with "serious and life-threatening > > > side-effects and/or death." > > > > The warning states: > > > > Avoid serious cardiovascular and arterial and venous thromboembolic > > > events by using the lowest dose of Aranesp, Epogen, or Procrit that > > > will gradually raise the hemoglobin concentration to the lowest level > > > sufficient to avoid the need for blood transfusion. > > > > Who loves ya. > > > Tom > > > > Jesus Was A Vegetarian!http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh > > > > Man Is A Herbivore!http://tinyurl.com/4rq595 > > > > DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk > > > > > On Jul 3, 7:28 am, "Robert Miles" <robertmi...(a)bellsouthNOSPAM.net> > > > > wrote:[snip] Off topic in alt.support.diabetes too.<< > > > > > Meet Robert .. he knows NOTHING about diabetes .. he only .. has > > > > diabetes. > > > > Through .. stupidity .. evidentally .. > > > > -------------------------------- > > > > Diabetes Raises the Risk ofThrombosisin Atheromatous Coronary > > > > Arteries > > > > > A study was undertaken at the Massachusetts General Hospital to > > > > quantify the lipid composition and macrophage infiltration in > > > > atheromatous plaques of culprit coronary arteries removed from 47 > > > > patients diagnosed with diabetes who were subjected to atherectomy > > > > for > > > > acute ischemic events. Lesions were also studied from 48 nondiabetic > > > > patients matched clinically and demographically with the diabetic > > > > patients. > > > > > Four types of tissue in atheromatous plaque were identified by > > > > staining: tissue with few cells and densely-stained collagen; tissue > > > > with abundant smooth muscle cells and a loose connective tissue > > > > matrix; lipid-rich atheroma with acellular debris, cholesterol > > > > clefts, > > > > and no preserved connective tissue matrix; and thrombus. > > > > > It was found that lipid-rich atheroma and macrophages occupied > > > > larger > > > > percentages of total area of specimens from diabetic than > > > > nondiabetic > > > > patients. The incidence of thrombus was greater in diabetic than in > > > > nondiabetic subjects (62% vs 40%, P=0.04). Whether diabetic patients > > > > had been treated with insulin, a sulfonylurea, or diet had no effect > > > > on plaque composition, macrophage infiltration, or thrombus > > > > presence. > > > > > The finding that coronary tissue from patients diagnosed with > > > > diabetes > > > > exhibits a larger content of lipid-rich atheroma, macrophage > > > > infiltration, and subsequentthrombosisthan tissue from patients > > > > without diabetes suggests that diabetes increases vulnerability for > > > > coronarythrombosis. > > > > > Moreno PR, Murcia AM, Palacios IF, et al. Coronary composition and > > > > macrophage infiltration in atherectomy specimens from patients with > > > > diabetes mellitus. Circulation. 2000;102:2180-2184. > > > > The above summary is adapted from the cited reference. > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------����----- > > > > Additional Information > > > > Diabetes Accelerates Smooth Muscle Accumulation in Lesions of > > > > Atherosclerosis: Lack of Direct Growth-Promoting Effects of High > > > > Glucose Levels > > > > > Cardiologists Should Become as Familiar With Diabetes as They Are > > > > With Dyslipidemia and Hypertension > > > > > Coronary Atherosclerosis in Type 2 Diabetes: Angiographic Findings > > > > and Clinical Outcome > > > > > Who loves ya. > > > > Tom > > > > > Jesus Was A Vegetarian!http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh > > > > > Man Is A Herbivore!http://tinyurl.com/4rq595 > > > > > DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk > > > > > > "Harvey R. Stone" <hrst...(a)swbell.net> wrote in > > > > > messagenews:Dr3bk.6309$LG4.1736(a)nlpi065.nbdc.sbc.com...> Reported > > > > > for being off topic in Alt.support.arthritis,,,, cross posting > > > > > > after being warned not to do it. > > > > > > > Path: > > > > > > nlpi059.nbdc.sbc.com!nlpi062.nbdc.sbc.com!prodigy.com!nlpi057.nbdc.sbc.com!�����prodigy.net!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.go�o�g�l�e�.com!l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail > > > > > > From: ironjustice <teamtan...(a)hotmail.com> > > > > > > [snip] > > > > > Off topic in alt.support.diabetes too. Has ignored requests not to > > > > > post off topic messages there. > > > > > > Note that groups-ab...(a)google.com is slow and not very effective > > > > > at responding to reports of spam posted through Google groups, so > > > > > I would expect them to be unlikely to act on reports of being off > > > > > topic. > > > > > However, it does help to report the same spammers over and over > > > > > for different messages for at least 6 weeks, so perhaps > > > > > groups-ab...(a)google.com just can't keep up with reading all their > > > > > incoming mail.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - |