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From: ironjustice on 4 Jul 2008 00:04 On Jul 3, 5:20 pm, ironjustice <ironjust...(a)cashette.com> wrote:Thrombosis << "Iron deficiency as a treatment modality" The Big Idea: iron-dependent inflammation in venous disease and proposed parallels in multiple sclerosis Professor Paolo ZamboniJ R Soc Med 2006;99:09-07.1-5 This article is based on a lecture presented at the Tripartite Meeting, EVF-AVF-UKVF, Royal Society of Medicine, London, 1July 2006. IRON DEPENDENT INFLAMMATION IN CVD Impaired venous drainage of the lower extremities, mainly due to venous reflux or to venous outflow obstruction,leads to a cascade of pathological events clinically graded by the clinical class (C) of the CEAP classification (Clinical,aEtiological, Anatomical, Pathophysiological) of chronic venous disease (CVD). Varicose veins are the most frequent clinical sign in class C2. When oedema complicates varicose veins, the clinical picture is graded as C3. Pigmentation, lipodermatosclerosis and other skin changes are classified as C4. A small but significant number of the affected patients develop venous ulcers. Healed ulcers are classified as C5, whereas active ulcers are C6. Altered venous haemodynamics are a necessary but not exclusive element for explaining progression along the clinical classes to the point of skin lesion. In 1982, Browseand Burnand observed a peri-capillary fibrin deposition and speculated that cuffs act as a barrier to oxygen diffusion and nutrients, resulting in epidermal cell death. This mechanism of tissue injury has not yet been demonstrated. The fibrin cuff may be more properly considered a scaffold for tissue reparative processes. The cuff contains fibrin, but also laminin, fibronectin, tenascin, and types I and III collagen,encircling the dilated capillary vein . The decline of the fibrin cuff theory over the last twenty years has led to investigation of other factors emphasizing inflammatory mechanisms as amplifiers of the insufficient venous drainage. Recent studies demonstrate a pivotal role for tissue iron accumulation in inducing and maintaining inflammation in CVD. Iron deposits in CVD cause readily visible brownish dermal areas which sometimes precede, but always surround, ulcers. The origin of increased leg iron stores is extravasation of red blood cells (erythrocytes) in conditions of significant venous stasis. Erythrocytes are degraded by the interstitial macrophages, with the released iron incorporated into ferritin. Over time, with increasing overload of iron, the structure of ferritin changes to haemosiderin. In 1988, Ackermann found a twenty-fold higher average concentration of iron in lower limbs affected by venous ulcers as compared to the upper arm of the same subjects. The phenomenon of leg haemosiderin deposits seems to be significant for the entire body, since this protein has been demonstrated in the urine of patients affected byCVD. Increased iron stores and interstitial protein extravasation are potent chemo-attractants and presumably represent the initial underlying chronic inflammatory signal responsible for white blood-cells recruitment and migration in the matrix . In 1988, Coleridge-Smith observed leukocytes trapped in the venous microcirculation secondary to venous hypertension. This work paved the way to the investigation of the relationship between CVD and inflammation. The mechanism of white cell migration in the subcutaneous matrix was further elucidated by studies of the expression of adhesion molecules in a model of venous hypertension. Several studies confirmed the expression of these molecules, including ICAM, VCAM and selectins. Such adhesion molecules block circulating white cells on the vein wall and facilitate transmigration into the tissue. The predominant cells migrating into the extra-cellular matrix are macrophages and T- lymphocytes. Macrophages take up iron accumulated in the tissue and store it in intracellular ferritin-like structures. Intra- and extra-cellular overload of iron in the tissue could potentially be dangerous for generation of free radicals due to possible release of free iron from deposits.Wenket al.and Yeoh-Ellerton found increased iron levels in exudates from chronic leg ulcers as compared to acute wounds. They also observed significant concentrations of metabolites from oxidative stress. The final step of the pathogenetic chain leading to matrix disruption and ulcer development involves over-expression of matrix metallo- proteases (MMPs) that are not substantially balanced by their physiological tissue inhibitors (TIMPs). MMPs cause a substrate- specific degradation of matrix components, including collagen, elastin and laminin. Unrestricted MMP activity can lead to matrix break down and ulcer onset. Some experiments demonstrate that local iron overload may induce MMP hyper-activation through the so-called MMP iron-driven pathway. However, the iron hypothesis does not readily explain why leg iron deposits in CVD produce lesions only in some individuals. We hypothesized that such individual differences could be genetically determined, and investigated the role ofthe C282Y and H63D mutations of the HFE gene, associated with hemochromatosis in Northern European populations. C282Y mutation significantly increases the risk of ulcer inprimary CVD by more than six-fold, while patients carrying the H63D variant have an earlier age of ulcer onset by almost 10 years. 5HFE mutations are associated with increased iron efflux from the macrophage. Our findings support the hypothesis that lesions are promoted by enhanced iron release and ROS generation. PARALLELS BETWEEN INFLAMMATION IN CVD AND IN MS Clinical observations sometimes suggest alternative explanations of previous findings. During a duplex scanning examination on the carotid arteries of a 55 year old patient with multiple sclerosis (MS), I observed an unexpected reflux from the chest into the internal jugular vein after the patient coughed involuntarily. I then noted this unusual phenomenon in other MS patients. There were previous reports of a close relationship between dilated cerebral veins and inflammatory lesions In MS. Fog showed that the plaques of cerebral MS arise from definite segments of large epiventricular veins and that the lesions digitating out into the cerebral hemispheres also consistently evolve in a corresponding vein relationship. Putnam showed plaques lined with gliotic tissue containing large veins, surrounded by hematogenous pigment. On a cerebral hemisphere medial aspect, a number of vein-centred plaques spread beneath the lateral ventricular wall and surge up off of the corpus callosum under- surface. The stem and first branches of a large ventricular vein have grooved wide beds whose breadth is nearly three times that of the involved vessel diameters, a detail reminiscent of Charcot's first documentation of cerebral MS. Fibrin cuffs are not an exclusive finding of CVD, but are commonly visible around cerebral veins in the course of MS and today they are interpreted as ongoing reparative processes. MRI venography confirms in vivo the close relationship between the main cerebral veins and the inflammatory plaques. In MS lesions, a central vein was visible. When cortical lesions occur, they arise within the territory of the principal cortical veins. In another study, contrast MRI allowed documentation of the break-down of the blood-brain barrier (BBB). Such an injury preceded other MRI abnormalities and the clinical evidence of a new lesion. This supports the view that a defect in the BBB, and therefore inflammation, is an early and possibly crucial event in the pathogenesis of a new lesion in MS. Inflammation in MS is characterized by expression of adhesion molecules, followed by a migration of macrophages and T-cells across the BBB. Infiltration of the matrix by macrophages, as in CVD, is considered a crucial step . In both situations,macrophages appear with considerable intracellular iron stores due to phagocytosis of senescent erythrocyte. Iron overload in MS plaques has been demonstrated in vivo by MRI. In addition, we observed haemosiderin in the urine of patients with active inflammation of MS (personal unpublished data).Iron-laden macrophages carrying the HFE mutation display increased iron export, increasing the risk of generation of free iron and free radicals, possibly extending tissue lesions. A study from Australia 29 suggests that C282Y-HFE mutation is increased in MS cases of North Western European origin and supports further investigations into the role of iron metabolism in the severity of MS. As in a venous ulcer, a key determinant of tissue injury is played by MMP9. Exactly as in CVD, the over-expression of MMP9 is insufficiently counter balanced by its tissue inhibitor TIMP-1. MMP9 can trigger leukocyte transendothelial traffic through an altered BBB, and serum active MMP9/TIMP-1 is now considered an appropriate indicator of ongoing MS inflammation. Despite histological findings showing haemosiderin deposits encircling the central vein of MS lesions , the iron-MMP pathway of activation is not considered in MS literature. DISCUSSION Table 1 summarizes the iron-dependent inflammatory chain in CVD and shows impressive pathophysiological similarities with MS. The critical point of the proposed parallelism between CVD and MS involves venous haemodynamics. In CVD, altered venous haemodynamics are considered the trigger mechanism of subsequent inflammation. In contrast, altered venous haemodynamics in MS are poorly studied. The possible role of venous reflux/obstruction in cerebral and spinal veins requires additional investigation. Earlier literature indicated that the inflammatory lesions spread counter-current to the normal venous flow direction, and the process of cerebral multiple sclerosis advances in a direction diametrically opposed to that of normal venous flow. Such circumstances should be further investigated with the help of advanced neuro-imaging technology. Although investigations on the role of iron in MS are still few, some evidence supports a pivotal role for iron in MS inflammation. The effect of manipulation of iron level was investigated in EAE, a form of induced autoimmune encephalomyelitis in mice used as an experimental model of MS. The incidence of EAE was 60-70% in mice with anormal iron level and in iron-overloaded mice, but 0% in iron-deficient mice. The findings suggest that iron deficiency provides protection from the development of EAEand also challenge traditional views on what constitutes a normal level of stored iron. The authors noted that, 'The failure of iron-deficient mice to develop EAE is impressive. Many of the pharmaceutical approaches to inhibiting EAE are less effective than iron deficiency.' Another group investigated the serum concentration of soluble transferrin receptor (sTFR) in a group of MS patients. The levels were found to be significantly higher inpatients with active MS, either in progressive or relapsing-remitting clinical form, than in controls. Serum ferritin levels were also significantly elevated in patients affected by the active and progressive form. Both findings support the hypothesis above described, which proposes local iron overload as the initial signal of the inflammatory chain in MS. Although the primum movens of MS is still elusive, these studies suggest that iron-dependent mechanisms of inflammation seen in CVD could be relevant to MS. Future work on MMPs and on iron/macrophage interactions appears especially promising. However, because of its relevant epidemiology and its easily visualized lesions, CVD is an ideal model for investigating iron mediated mechanisms of tissue injury of venous and inflammatory origin, as well as the use of deliberate induction of iron deficiency as a treatment modality. Acknowledgments This research was supported by the Italian Ministry for the University and the Scientific Research and by the Foundation Cassa di Risparmio di Ferrara. http://www.societaitalianaflebologia.it/banner/zamboni.pdf. Who loves ya. Tom Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh Man Is A Herbivore! http://tinyurl.com/4rq595 DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk > On Jul 3, 3:31 pm, ironjustice <ironjust...(a)cashette.com> wrote: > thrombosis101 << > > http://tinyurl.com/5jjr3p > > Venous Thromboembolic Disease > > DEFINITION > "Blood clot" > Deep vein thrombosis (DVT) and pulmonary embolism represent different > manifestations of the same clinical entity, which is referred to as > venous thromboembolism. > "Blood clot" > In patients with this condition, venous thrombosis occurs when red > blood cells, fibrin, and to a lesser extent platelets and leukocytes > form a mass within an intact cardiovascular system. > "Blood clot" > A proximal DVT in the leg is one that is located within the popliteal, > femoral (including the superficial femoral), or iliac veins. > "Blood clot in lung" > A pulmonary embolism occurs when a segment of a thrombus within the > deep venous system detaches from the vessel, travels to the lungs, and > lodges within the pulmonary arteries. > "Blood clots in legs go to lungs and kill you" > The pelvic and deep veins of the lower extremities are the source of > more than 70% of all pulmonary emboli.1 > "Blood clots in heart" > The superior vena cava, upper extremity veins, and right chambers of > the heart are less common sources. > > Who loves ya. > Tom > > Jesus Was A Vegetarian!http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh > > Man Is A Herbivore!http://tinyurl.com/4rq595 > > DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk > > > > > On Jul 3, 7:46 am, ironjustice <ironjust...(a)cashette.com> wrote: > > thrombosis << > > > Increased red blood cells cause thrombosis. > > THAT is **precisely** WHY .. epo .. 'fell from grace'. > > Epo builds red blood cells and it causes .. thrombosis. > > > Black Box Warning Ordered for Aranesp, Epogen, and Procrit > > By Peggy Peck, Managing Editor, MedPage Today > > Published: March 09, 2007 > > Reviewed by Robert Jasmer, MD; Associate Clinical Professor of > > Medicine, University of California, San Francisco Earn CME/CE credit > > for reading medical news > > >http://www.medpagetoday.com/ProductAlert/Prescriptions/tb/5231 > > > ROCKVILLE, Md., March 9 -- The FDA warned today that aggressive use of > > erythropoiesis-stimulating agents to raise hemoglobin to a target of > > 12 g/dL or higher was associated with "serious and life-threatening > > side-effects and/or death." > > > The warning states: > > > Avoid serious cardiovascular and arterial and venous thromboembolic > > events by using the lowest dose of Aranesp, Epogen, or Procrit that > > will gradually raise the hemoglobin concentration to the lowest level > > sufficient to avoid the need for blood transfusion. > > > Who loves ya. > > Tom > > > Jesus Was A Vegetarian!http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh > > > Man Is A Herbivore!http://tinyurl.com/4rq595 > > > DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk > > > > On Jul 3, 7:28 am, "Robert Miles" <robertmi...(a)bellsouthNOSPAM.net> > > > wrote:[snip] Off topic in alt.support.diabetes too.<< > > > > Meet Robert .. he knows NOTHING about diabetes .. he only .. has > > > diabetes. > > > Through .. stupidity .. evidentally .. > > > -------------------------------- > > > Diabetes Raises the Risk of Thrombosis in Atheromatous Coronary > > > Arteries > > > > A study was undertaken at the Massachusetts General Hospital to > > > quantify the lipid composition and macrophage infiltration in > > > atheromatous plaques of culprit coronary arteries removed from 47 > > > patients diagnosed with diabetes who were subjected to atherectomy for > > > acute ischemic events. Lesions were also studied from 48 nondiabetic > > > patients matched clinically and demographically with the diabetic > > > patients. > > > > Four types of tissue in atheromatous plaque were identified by > > > staining: tissue with few cells and densely-stained collagen; tissue > > > with abundant smooth muscle cells and a loose connective tissue > > > matrix; lipid-rich atheroma with acellular debris, cholesterol clefts, > > > and no preserved connective tissue matrix; and thrombus. > > > > It was found that lipid-rich atheroma and macrophages occupied larger > > > percentages of total area of specimens from diabetic than nondiabetic > > > patients. The incidence of thrombus was greater in diabetic than in > > > nondiabetic subjects (62% vs 40%, P=0.04). Whether diabetic patients > > > had been treated with insulin, a sulfonylurea, or diet had no effect > > > on plaque composition, macrophage infiltration, or thrombus presence. > > > > The finding that coronary tissue from patients diagnosed with diabetes > > > exhibits a larger content of lipid-rich atheroma, macrophage > > > infiltration, and subsequent thrombosis than tissue from patients > > > without diabetes suggests that diabetes increases vulnerability for > > > coronary thrombosis. > > > > Moreno PR, Murcia AM, Palacios IF, et al. Coronary composition and > > > macrophage infiltration in atherectomy specimens from patients with > > > diabetes mellitus. Circulation. 2000;102:2180-2184. > > > The above summary is adapted from the cited reference. > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Additional Information > > > Diabetes Accelerates Smooth Muscle Accumulation in Lesions of > > > Atherosclerosis: Lack of Direct Growth-Promoting Effects of High > > > Glucose Levels > > > > Cardiologists Should Become as Familiar With Diabetes as They Are > > > With Dyslipidemia and Hypertension > > > > Coronary Atherosclerosis in Type 2 Diabetes: Angiographic Findings > > > and Clinical Outcome > > > > Who loves ya. > > > Tom > > > > Jesus Was A Vegetarian!http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh > > > > Man Is A Herbivore!http://tinyurl.com/4rq595 > > > > DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk > > > > > "Harvey R. 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IRON DEPENDENT INFLAMMATION IN CVD Impaired venous drainage of the lower extremities, mainly due to venous reflux or to venous outflow obstruction,leads to a cascade of pathological events clinically graded by the clinical class (C) of the Path: flpi142.ffdc.sbc.com!flpi088.ffdc.sbc.com!prodigy.com!flpi089.ffdc.sbc.com!prodigy.net!newshub.sdsu.edu!postnews.google.com!z32g2000prh.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: ironjustice <ironjustice(a)cashette.com> Newsgroups: alt.support.chronic-pain,alt.support.lupus,alt.support.diabetes,alt.support.mult-sclerosis,alt.support.arthritis Subject: Re: Phlebotomy Prevents Thrombosis Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 21:04:08 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 447 Message-ID: <0ae1216f-c70e-4fdd-8d6b-f90049214cbc(a)z32g2000prh.googlegroups.com> References: <7e448af9-cd30-4f6d-93a2-e4e3cf022db9(a)c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com> <da9c9249-0eaa-4941-89de-0dadfa64b818(a)34g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <b33de047-459d-41ac-ac6a-6955dc1bba58(a)34g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <524ef63f-eb9d-48dc-b21d-d4c335e032d8(a)j22g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <375c26db-7b39-449f-8e0a-94c07f9a8b28(a)8g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <aeeef4e0-6b41-4066-8053-160db29b7fed(a)59g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> <921185a2-78ea-4e8f-b2d4-0f7d3723c1d4(a)m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com> <9d51be37-5f04-4068-ae3d-23d3d76a387f(a)l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <Dr3bk.6309$LG4.1736(a)nlpi065.nbdc.sbc.com> <wj5bk.20594$PZ6.7891(a)bignews5.bellsouth.net> <01efa9c2-a7df-4040-8fad-9e213d0413b7(a)x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> <5c67c7a2-c891-4bb7-84a8-7c086038a52b(a)c19g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <c1302484-e57e-4eb5-9eaf-032a6f5ccb1b(a)59g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.222.234.210 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1215144249 13450 127.0.0.1 (4 Jul 2008 04:04:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse(a)google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 04:04:09 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse(a)google.com Injection-Info: z32g2000prh.googlegroups.com; posting-host=66.222.234.210; posting-account=b_HXVgoAAAD3kahe13N-cr2b-NWk1Xb_ User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Xref: prodigy.net alt.support.chronic-pain:327928 alt.support.lupus:65291 alt.support.diabetes:637522 alt.support.mult-sclerosis:435390 alt.support.arthritis:514060 X-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 00:04:09 EDT (flpi142.ffdc.sbc.com) On Jul 3, 5:20=A0pm, ironjustice <ironjust...(a)cashette.com> wrote:Thrombosis << "Iron deficiency as a treatment modality" The Big Idea: iron-dependent inflammation in venous disease and proposed parallels in multiple sclerosis Professor Paolo ZamboniJ R Soc Med 2006;99:09-07.1-5
From: ironjustice on 4 Jul 2008 10:03 On Jul 3, 5:20 pm, ironjustice <ironjust...(a)cashette.com> wrote: thrombosis101 << http://siberiantigernaturals.com/omega3.htm "In nature found in most green leafy vegetables" Omega-3 Fatty Acids and Health: an Overview Anti-clotting (thrombolytic) effect: Omega-3s help to avoid thrombosis (formation of blood clots) by preventing platelets (thrombocytes) from sticking together and forming blood clots. Blood clots, which may result in stroke, heart attack, or pulmonary embolism (PE), are the #1 cause of death in thw Western world, but most of them are preventable by including omega-3 fatty acids and other anti-clotting foods and supplements into one's diet. Who loves ya. Tom Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh Man Is A Herbivore! http://tinyurl.com/4rq595 DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk > On Jul 3, 3:31 pm, ironjustice <ironjust...(a)cashette.com> wrote: > thrombosis101 << > > http://tinyurl.com/5jjr3p > > Venous Thromboembolic Disease > > DEFINITION > "Blood clot" > Deep vein thrombosis (DVT) and pulmonary embolism represent different > manifestations of the same clinical entity, which is referred to as > venous thromboembolism. > "Blood clot" > In patients with this condition, venous thrombosis occurs when red > blood cells, fibrin, and to a lesser extent platelets and leukocytes > form a mass within an intact cardiovascular system. > "Blood clot" > A proximal DVT in the leg is one that is located within the popliteal, > femoral (including the superficial femoral), or iliac veins. > "Blood clot in lung" > A pulmonary embolism occurs when a segment of a thrombus within the > deep venous system detaches from the vessel, travels to the lungs, and > lodges within the pulmonary arteries. > "Blood clots in legs go to lungs and kill you" > The pelvic and deep veins of the lower extremities are the source of > more than 70% of all pulmonary emboli.1 > "Blood clots in heart" > The superior vena cava, upper extremity veins, and right chambers of > the heart are less common sources. > > Who loves ya. > Tom > > Jesus Was A Vegetarian!http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh > > Man Is A Herbivore!http://tinyurl.com/4rq595 > > DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk > > > > > On Jul 3, 7:46 am, ironjustice <ironjust...(a)cashette.com> wrote: > > thrombosis << > > > Increased red blood cells cause thrombosis. > > THAT is **precisely** WHY .. epo .. 'fell from grace'. > > Epo builds red blood cells and it causes .. thrombosis. > > > Black Box Warning Ordered for Aranesp, Epogen, and Procrit > > By Peggy Peck, Managing Editor, MedPage Today > > Published: March 09, 2007 > > Reviewed by Robert Jasmer, MD; Associate Clinical Professor of > > Medicine, University of California, San Francisco Earn CME/CE credit > > for reading medical news > > >http://www.medpagetoday.com/ProductAlert/Prescriptions/tb/5231 > > > ROCKVILLE, Md., March 9 -- The FDA warned today that aggressive use of > > erythropoiesis-stimulating agents to raise hemoglobin to a target of > > 12 g/dL or higher was associated with "serious and life-threatening > > side-effects and/or death." > > > The warning states: > > > Avoid serious cardiovascular and arterial and venous thromboembolic > > events by using the lowest dose of Aranesp, Epogen, or Procrit that > > will gradually raise the hemoglobin concentration to the lowest level > > sufficient to avoid the need for blood transfusion. > > > Who loves ya. > > Tom > > > Jesus Was A Vegetarian!http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh > > > Man Is A Herbivore!http://tinyurl.com/4rq595 > > > DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk > > > > On Jul 3, 7:28 am, "Robert Miles" <robertmi...(a)bellsouthNOSPAM.net> > > > wrote:[snip] Off topic in alt.support.diabetes too.<< > > > > Meet Robert .. he knows NOTHING about diabetes .. he only .. has > > > diabetes. > > > Through .. stupidity .. evidentally .. > > > -------------------------------- > > > Diabetes Raises the Risk of Thrombosis in Atheromatous Coronary > > > Arteries > > > > A study was undertaken at the Massachusetts General Hospital to > > > quantify the lipid composition and macrophage infiltration in > > > atheromatous plaques of culprit coronary arteries removed from 47 > > > patients diagnosed with diabetes who were subjected to atherectomy for > > > acute ischemic events. Lesions were also studied from 48 nondiabetic > > > patients matched clinically and demographically with the diabetic > > > patients. > > > > Four types of tissue in atheromatous plaque were identified by > > > staining: tissue with few cells and densely-stained collagen; tissue > > > with abundant smooth muscle cells and a loose connective tissue > > > matrix; lipid-rich atheroma with acellular debris, cholesterol clefts, > > > and no preserved connective tissue matrix; and thrombus. > > > > It was found that lipid-rich atheroma and macrophages occupied larger > > > percentages of total area of specimens from diabetic than nondiabetic > > > patients. The incidence of thrombus was greater in diabetic than in > > > nondiabetic subjects (62% vs 40%, P=0.04). Whether diabetic patients > > > had been treated with insulin, a sulfonylurea, or diet had no effect > > > on plaque composition, macrophage infiltration, or thrombus presence. > > > > The finding that coronary tissue from patients diagnosed with diabetes > > > exhibits a larger content of lipid-rich atheroma, macrophage > > > infiltration, and subsequent thrombosis than tissue from patients > > > without diabetes suggests that diabetes increases vulnerability for > > > coronary thrombosis. > > > > Moreno PR, Murcia AM, Palacios IF, et al. Coronary composition and > > > macrophage infiltration in atherectomy specimens from patients with > > > diabetes mellitus. Circulation. 2000;102:2180-2184. > > > The above summary is adapted from the cited reference. > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Additional Information > > > Diabetes Accelerates Smooth Muscle Accumulation in Lesions of > > > Atherosclerosis: Lack of Direct Growth-Promoting Effects of High > > > Glucose Levels > > > > Cardiologists Should Become as Familiar With Diabetes as They Are > > > With Dyslipidemia and Hypertension > > > > Coronary Atherosclerosis in Type 2 Diabetes: Angiographic Findings > > > and Clinical Outcome > > > > Who loves ya. > > > Tom > > > > Jesus Was A Vegetarian!http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh > > > > Man Is A Herbivore!http://tinyurl.com/4rq595 > > > > DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk > > > > > "Harvey R. Stone" <hrst...(a)swbell.net> wrote in messagenews:Dr3bk.6309$LG4.1736(a)nlpi065.nbdc.sbc.com...> Reported for being off topic in Alt.support.arthritis,,,, cross posting > > > > > after being warned not to do it. > > > > > > Path: > > > > > nlpi059.nbdc.sbc.com!nlpi062.nbdc.sbc.com!prodigy.com!nlpi057.nbdc.sbc.com!prodigy.net!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail > > > > > From: ironjustice <teamtan...(a)hotmail.com> > > > > > [snip] > > > > Off topic in alt.support.diabetes too. Has ignored requests not to > > > > post off topic messages there. > > > > > Note that groups-ab...(a)google.com is slow and not very effective > > > > at responding to reports of spam posted through Google groups, so > > > > I would expect them to be unlikely to act on reports of being off topic. > > > > However, it does help to report the same spammers over and over > > > > for different messages for at least 6 weeks, so perhaps > > > > groups-ab...(a)google.com just can't keep up with reading all their > > > > incoming mail.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
From: Robert Miles on 4 Jul 2008 10:11 "Harvey R. Stone" <hrstone(a)swbell.net> wrote in message news:xHobk.17080$Ri.8315(a)flpi146.ffdc.sbc.com... > Reported for off topic posting, cross posting.... > Path: > flpi142.ffdc.sbc.com!flpi088.ffdc.sbc.com!prodigy.com!flpi089.ffdc.sbc.com!prodigy.net!newshub.sdsu.edu!postnews.google.com!z32g2000prh.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail > From: ironjustice <ironjustice(a)cashette.com> Why are you trying to make those of who have her/him/it killfiled see what she/he/it posted? Do you want to join her/him/it in the killfiles?
From: Harvey R. Stone on 4 Jul 2008 10:53
"Robert Miles" <robertmiles(a)bellsouthNOSPAM.net> wrote in message news:T8qbk.10367$CC.8946(a)bignews9.bellsouth.net... > > "Harvey R. Stone" <hrstone(a)swbell.net> wrote in message > news:xHobk.17080$Ri.8315(a)flpi146.ffdc.sbc.com... >> Reported for off topic posting, cross posting.... >> Path: >> flpi142.ffdc.sbc.com!flpi088.ffdc.sbc.com!prodigy.com!flpi089.ffdc.sbc.com!prodigy.net!newshub.sdsu.edu!postnews.google.com!z32g2000prh.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail >> From: ironjustice <ironjustice(a)cashette.com> > > Why are you trying to make those of who have her/him/it killfiled > see what she/he/it posted? Do you want to join her/him/it in > the killfiles You do what seems best for you. I am giving an opinion which seems to be painful to some people while giving a way,,, the only way IMO to take action against an abuser of the newsgroups. Harv |