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Off topic in alt.support.diabetes too. Has ignored requests not to
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From: ironjustice on
On Jul 3, 7:28 am, "Robert Miles" <robertmi...(a)bellsouthNOSPAM.net>
wrote:thrombosis <<

"Iron markedly accelerates thrombus formation"


(Circulation. 2003;107:2601.)
© 2003 American Heart Association, Inc.


---------------------------------------------------------------------------­-----


Basic Science Reports


Chronic Iron Administration Increases Vascular Oxidative Stress and
Accelerates Arterial Thrombosis
Sharlene M. Day, MD; Damon Duquaine, BS; Lakshmi V. Mundada, MS;
Rekha
G. Menon, MD; Bobby V. Khan, MD, PhD; Sanjay Rajagopalan, MD; William
P. Fay, MD
From the University of Michigan Medical School, Division of
Cardiology, Ann Arbor (S.M.D., D.D., L.V.M., S.R., W.P.F.); and Emory
University School of Medicine, Division of Cardiology, Atlanta, Ga
(R.G.M., B.V.K.).


Correspondence to Sharlene M. Day, MD, University of Michigan Medical
Center, 7301 MSRB III, 1150 W Medical Center Dr, Ann Arbor, MI
48109-0644. E-mail s...(a)umich.edu


Background— Iron overload has been implicated in the pathogenesis of
ischemic cardiovascular events. However, the effects of iron excess
on
vascular function and the thrombotic response to vascular injury are
not well understood.


Methods and Results— We examined the effects of chronic iron dextran
administration (15 mg over 6 weeks) on thrombosis, systemic and
vascular oxidative stress, and endothelium-dependent vascular
reactivity in mice. Thrombus generation after photochemical carotid
artery injury was accelerated in iron-loaded mice (mean time to
occlusive thrombosis, 20.4±8.5 minutes; n=10) compared with control
mice (54.5±35.5 minutes, n=10, P=0.009). Iron loading had no effect
on
plasma clotting, vessel wall tissue factor activity, or ADP-induced
platelet aggregation. Acute administration of DL-cysteine, a reactive
oxygen species scavenger, completely abrogated the effects of iron
loading on thrombus formation, suggesting that iron accelerated
thrombosis through a pro-oxidant mechanism. Iron loading enhanced
both
systemic and vascular reactive oxygen species production.
Endothelium-
dependent vasorelaxation was impaired in iron-loaded mice, indicating
reduced NO bioavailability.


Conclusions— Moderate iron loading markedly accelerates thrombus
formation after arterial injury, increases vascular oxidative stress,
and impairs vasoreactivity. Iron-induced vascular dysfunction may
contribute to the increased incidence of ischemic cardiovascular
events that have been associated with chronic iron overload.


Key Words: thrombosis • free radicals • arteries


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> "Harvey R. Stone" <hrst...(a)swbell.net> wrote in messagenews:Dr3bk.6309$LG4.1736(a)nlpi065.nbdc.sbc.com...> Reported for being off topic in Alt.support..arthritis,,,, cross posting
> > after being warned not to do it.
>
> > Path:
> > nlpi059.nbdc.sbc.com!nlpi062.nbdc.sbc.com!prodigy.com!nlpi057.nbdc.sbc.com!­prodigy.net!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews..google­.com!l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
> > From: ironjustice <teamtan...(a)hotmail.com>
>
> [snip]
> Off topic in alt.support.diabetes too.  Has ignored requests not to
> post off topic messages there.
>
> Note that groups-ab...(a)google.com is slow and not very effective
>  at responding to reports of spam posted through Google groups, so
> I would expect them to be unlikely to act on reports of being off topic.
> However, it does help to report the same spammers over and over
> for different messages for at least 6 weeks, so perhaps
> groups-ab...(a)google.com just can't keep up with reading all their
> incoming mail.

From: ironjustice on
On Jul 3, 7:28 am, "Robert Miles" <robertmi...(a)bellsouthNOSPAM.net>
wrote:[snip] Off topic in alt.support.diabetes too.<<

Meet Robert .. he knows NOTHING about diabetes .. he only .. has
diabetes.
Through .. stupidity .. evidentally ..
--------------------------------
Diabetes Raises the Risk of Thrombosis in Atheromatous Coronary
Arteries

A study was undertaken at the Massachusetts General Hospital to
quantify the lipid composition and macrophage infiltration in
atheromatous plaques of culprit coronary arteries removed from 47
patients diagnosed with diabetes who were subjected to atherectomy for
acute ischemic events. Lesions were also studied from 48 nondiabetic
patients matched clinically and demographically with the diabetic
patients.

Four types of tissue in atheromatous plaque were identified by
staining: tissue with few cells and densely-stained collagen; tissue
with abundant smooth muscle cells and a loose connective tissue
matrix; lipid-rich atheroma with acellular debris, cholesterol clefts,
and no preserved connective tissue matrix; and thrombus.

It was found that lipid-rich atheroma and macrophages occupied larger
percentages of total area of specimens from diabetic than nondiabetic
patients. The incidence of thrombus was greater in diabetic than in
nondiabetic subjects (62% vs 40%, P=0.04). Whether diabetic patients
had been treated with insulin, a sulfonylurea, or diet had no effect
on plaque composition, macrophage infiltration, or thrombus presence.

The finding that coronary tissue from patients diagnosed with diabetes
exhibits a larger content of lipid-rich atheroma, macrophage
infiltration, and subsequent thrombosis than tissue from patients
without diabetes suggests that diabetes increases vulnerability for
coronary thrombosis.

Moreno PR, Murcia AM, Palacios IF, et al. Coronary composition and
macrophage infiltration in atherectomy specimens from patients with
diabetes mellitus. Circulation. 2000;102:2180-2184.
The above summary is adapted from the cited reference.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Additional Information
Diabetes Accelerates Smooth Muscle Accumulation in Lesions of
Atherosclerosis: Lack of Direct Growth-Promoting Effects of High
Glucose Levels


Cardiologists Should Become as Familiar With Diabetes as They Are
With Dyslipidemia and Hypertension


Coronary Atherosclerosis in Type 2 Diabetes: Angiographic Findings
and Clinical Outcome


Who loves ya.
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http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh


Man Is A Herbivore!
http://tinyurl.com/4rq595


DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk




> "Harvey R. Stone" <hrst...(a)swbell.net> wrote in messagenews:Dr3bk.6309$LG4.1736(a)nlpi065.nbdc.sbc.com...> Reported for being off topic in Alt.support..arthritis,,,, cross posting
> > after being warned not to do it.
>
> > Path:
> > nlpi059.nbdc.sbc.com!nlpi062.nbdc.sbc.com!prodigy.com!nlpi057.nbdc.sbc.com!­prodigy.net!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews..google­.com!l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
> > From: ironjustice <teamtan...(a)hotmail.com>
>
> [snip]
> Off topic in alt.support.diabetes too.  Has ignored requests not to
> post off topic messages there.
>
> Note that groups-ab...(a)google.com is slow and not very effective
>  at responding to reports of spam posted through Google groups, so
> I would expect them to be unlikely to act on reports of being off topic.
> However, it does help to report the same spammers over and over
> for different messages for at least 6 weeks, so perhaps
> groups-ab...(a)google.com just can't keep up with reading all their
> incoming mail.

From: ironjustice on
On Jul 3, 7:46 am, ironjustice <ironjust...(a)cashette.com> wrote:
thrombosis <<

Increased red blood cells cause thrombosis.
THAT is **precisely** WHY .. epo .. 'fell from grace'.
Epo builds red blood cells and it causes .. thrombosis.

Black Box Warning Ordered for Aranesp, Epogen, and Procrit
By Peggy Peck, Managing Editor, MedPage Today
Published: March 09, 2007
Reviewed by Robert Jasmer, MD; Associate Clinical Professor of
Medicine, University of California, San Francisco Earn CME/CE credit
for reading medical news

http://www.medpagetoday.com/ProductAlert/Prescriptions/tb/5231

ROCKVILLE, Md., March 9 -- The FDA warned today that aggressive use of
erythropoiesis-stimulating agents to raise hemoglobin to a target of
12 g/dL or higher was associated with "serious and life-threatening
side-effects and/or death."

The warning states:

Avoid serious cardiovascular and arterial and venous thromboembolic
events by using the lowest dose of Aranesp, Epogen, or Procrit that
will gradually raise the hemoglobin concentration to the lowest level
sufficient to avoid the need for blood transfusion.


Who loves ya.
Tom


Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh


Man Is A Herbivore!
http://tinyurl.com/4rq595


DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk


> On Jul 3, 7:28 am, "Robert Miles" <robertmi...(a)bellsouthNOSPAM.net>
> wrote:[snip] Off topic in alt.support.diabetes too.<<
>
> Meet Robert .. he knows NOTHING about diabetes .. he only .. has
> diabetes.
> Through .. stupidity .. evidentally ..
> --------------------------------
> Diabetes Raises the Risk of Thrombosis in Atheromatous Coronary
> Arteries
>
> A study was undertaken at the Massachusetts General Hospital to
> quantify the lipid composition and macrophage infiltration in
> atheromatous plaques of culprit coronary arteries removed from 47
> patients diagnosed with diabetes who were subjected to atherectomy for
> acute ischemic events. Lesions were also studied from 48 nondiabetic
> patients matched clinically and demographically with the diabetic
> patients.
>
> Four types of tissue in atheromatous plaque were identified by
> staining: tissue with few cells and densely-stained collagen; tissue
> with abundant smooth muscle cells and a loose connective tissue
> matrix; lipid-rich atheroma with acellular debris, cholesterol clefts,
> and no preserved connective tissue matrix; and thrombus.
>
> It was found that lipid-rich atheroma and macrophages occupied larger
> percentages of total area of specimens from diabetic than nondiabetic
> patients. The incidence of thrombus was greater in diabetic than in
> nondiabetic subjects (62% vs 40%, P=0.04). Whether diabetic patients
> had been treated with insulin, a sulfonylurea, or diet had no effect
> on plaque composition, macrophage infiltration, or thrombus presence.
>
> The finding that coronary tissue from patients diagnosed with diabetes
> exhibits a larger content of lipid-rich atheroma, macrophage
> infiltration, and subsequent thrombosis than tissue from patients
> without diabetes suggests that diabetes increases vulnerability for
> coronary thrombosis.
>
> Moreno PR, Murcia AM, Palacios IF, et al. Coronary composition and
> macrophage infiltration in atherectomy specimens from patients with
> diabetes mellitus. Circulation. 2000;102:2180-2184.
> The above summary is adapted from the cited reference.
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------­-----
>    Additional Information
>   Diabetes Accelerates Smooth Muscle Accumulation in Lesions of
> Atherosclerosis: Lack of Direct Growth-Promoting Effects of High
> Glucose Levels
>
>  Cardiologists Should Become as Familiar With Diabetes as They Are
> With Dyslipidemia and Hypertension
>
>  Coronary Atherosclerosis in Type 2 Diabetes: Angiographic Findings
> and Clinical Outcome
>
> Who loves ya.
> Tom
>
> Jesus Was A Vegetarian!http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh
>
> Man Is A Herbivore!http://tinyurl.com/4rq595
>
> DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
>
>
>
> > "Harvey R. Stone" <hrst...(a)swbell.net> wrote in messagenews:Dr3bk.6309$LG4.1736(a)nlpi065.nbdc.sbc.com...> Reported for being off topic in Alt.support.arthritis,,,, cross posting
> > > after being warned not to do it.
>
> > > Path:
> > > nlpi059.nbdc.sbc.com!nlpi062.nbdc.sbc.com!prodigy.com!nlpi057.nbdc.sbc.com!­­prodigy.net!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.googl­e­.com!l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
> > > From: ironjustice <teamtan...(a)hotmail.com>
>
> > [snip]
> > Off topic in alt.support.diabetes too.  Has ignored requests not to
> > post off topic messages there.
>
> > Note that groups-ab...(a)google.com is slow and not very effective
> >  at responding to reports of spam posted through Google groups, so
> > I would expect them to be unlikely to act on reports of being off topic..
> > However, it does help to report the same spammers over and over
> > for different messages for at least 6 weeks, so perhaps
> > groups-ab...(a)google.com just can't keep up with reading all their
> > incoming mail.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

From: ironjustice on
On Jul 3, 3:31 pm, ironjustice <ironjust...(a)cashette.com> wrote:
thrombosis101 <<

http://tinyurl.com/5jjr3p

Venous Thromboembolic Disease

DEFINITION
"Blood clot"
Deep vein thrombosis (DVT) and pulmonary embolism represent different
manifestations of the same clinical entity, which is referred to as
venous thromboembolism.
"Blood clot"
In patients with this condition, venous thrombosis occurs when red
blood cells, fibrin, and to a lesser extent platelets and leukocytes
form a mass within an intact cardiovascular system.
"Blood clot"
A proximal DVT in the leg is one that is located within the popliteal,
femoral (including the superficial femoral), or iliac veins.
"Blood clot in lung"
A pulmonary embolism occurs when a segment of a thrombus within the
deep venous system detaches from the vessel, travels to the lungs, and
lodges within the pulmonary arteries.
"Blood clots in legs go to lungs and kill you"
The pelvic and deep veins of the lower extremities are the source of
more than 70% of all pulmonary emboli.1
"Blood clots in heart"
The superior vena cava, upper extremity veins, and right chambers of
the heart are less common sources.

Who loves ya.
Tom


Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh


Man Is A Herbivore!
http://tinyurl.com/4rq595


DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk

> On Jul 3, 7:46 am, ironjustice <ironjust...(a)cashette.com> wrote:
> thrombosis <<
>
> Increased red blood cells cause thrombosis.
> THAT is **precisely** WHY .. epo .. 'fell from grace'.
> Epo builds red blood cells and it causes .. thrombosis.
>
> Black Box Warning Ordered for Aranesp, Epogen, and Procrit
> By Peggy Peck, Managing Editor, MedPage Today
> Published: March 09, 2007
> Reviewed by Robert Jasmer, MD; Associate Clinical Professor of
> Medicine, University of California, San Francisco  Earn CME/CE credit
> for reading medical news
>
> http://www.medpagetoday.com/ProductAlert/Prescriptions/tb/5231
>
> ROCKVILLE, Md., March 9 -- The FDA warned today that aggressive use of
> erythropoiesis-stimulating agents to raise hemoglobin to a target of
> 12 g/dL or higher was associated with "serious and life-threatening
> side-effects and/or death."
>
> The warning states:
>
> Avoid serious cardiovascular and arterial and venous thromboembolic
> events by using the lowest dose of Aranesp, Epogen, or Procrit that
> will gradually raise the hemoglobin concentration to the lowest level
> sufficient to avoid the need for blood transfusion.
>
> Who loves ya.
> Tom
>
> Jesus Was A Vegetarian!http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh
>
> Man Is A Herbivore!http://tinyurl.com/4rq595
>
> DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
>
>
>
> > On Jul 3, 7:28 am, "Robert Miles" <robertmi...(a)bellsouthNOSPAM.net>
> > wrote:[snip] Off topic in alt.support.diabetes too.<<
>
> > Meet Robert .. he knows NOTHING about diabetes .. he only .. has
> > diabetes.
> > Through .. stupidity .. evidentally ..
> > --------------------------------
> > Diabetes Raises the Risk of Thrombosis in Atheromatous Coronary
> > Arteries
>
> > A study was undertaken at the Massachusetts General Hospital to
> > quantify the lipid composition and macrophage infiltration in
> > atheromatous plaques of culprit coronary arteries removed from 47
> > patients diagnosed with diabetes who were subjected to atherectomy for
> > acute ischemic events. Lesions were also studied from 48 nondiabetic
> > patients matched clinically and demographically with the diabetic
> > patients.
>
> > Four types of tissue in atheromatous plaque were identified by
> > staining: tissue with few cells and densely-stained collagen; tissue
> > with abundant smooth muscle cells and a loose connective tissue
> > matrix; lipid-rich atheroma with acellular debris, cholesterol clefts,
> > and no preserved connective tissue matrix; and thrombus.
>
> > It was found that lipid-rich atheroma and macrophages occupied larger
> > percentages of total area of specimens from diabetic than nondiabetic
> > patients. The incidence of thrombus was greater in diabetic than in
> > nondiabetic subjects (62% vs 40%, P=0.04). Whether diabetic patients
> > had been treated with insulin, a sulfonylurea, or diet had no effect
> > on plaque composition, macrophage infiltration, or thrombus presence.
>
> > The finding that coronary tissue from patients diagnosed with diabetes
> > exhibits a larger content of lipid-rich atheroma, macrophage
> > infiltration, and subsequent thrombosis than tissue from patients
> > without diabetes suggests that diabetes increases vulnerability for
> > coronary thrombosis.
>
> > Moreno PR, Murcia AM, Palacios IF, et al. Coronary composition and
> > macrophage infiltration in atherectomy specimens from patients with
> > diabetes mellitus. Circulation. 2000;102:2180-2184.
> > The above summary is adapted from the cited reference.
>
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------­­-----
> >    Additional Information
> >   Diabetes Accelerates Smooth Muscle Accumulation in Lesions of
> > Atherosclerosis: Lack of Direct Growth-Promoting Effects of High
> > Glucose Levels
>
> >  Cardiologists Should Become as Familiar With Diabetes as They Are
> > With Dyslipidemia and Hypertension
>
> >  Coronary Atherosclerosis in Type 2 Diabetes: Angiographic Findings
> > and Clinical Outcome
>
> > Who loves ya.
> > Tom
>
> > Jesus Was A Vegetarian!http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh
>
> > Man Is A Herbivore!http://tinyurl.com/4rq595
>
> > DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
>
> > > "Harvey R. Stone" <hrst...(a)swbell.net> wrote in messagenews:Dr3bk.6309$LG4.1736(a)nlpi065.nbdc.sbc.com...> Reported for being off topic in Alt.support.arthritis,,,, cross posting
> > > > after being warned not to do it.
>
> > > > Path:
> > > > nlpi059.nbdc.sbc.com!nlpi062.nbdc.sbc.com!prodigy.com!nlpi057.nbdc.sbc.com!­­­prodigy.net!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.goog­l­e­.com!l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
> > > > From: ironjustice <teamtan...(a)hotmail.com>
>
> > > [snip]
> > > Off topic in alt.support.diabetes too.  Has ignored requests not to
> > > post off topic messages there.
>
> > > Note that groups-ab...(a)google.com is slow and not very effective
> > >  at responding to reports of spam posted through Google groups, so
> > > I would expect them to be unlikely to act on reports of being off topic.
> > > However, it does help to report the same spammers over and over
> > > for different messages for at least 6 weeks, so perhaps
> > > groups-ab...(a)google.com just can't keep up with reading all their
> > > incoming mail.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
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