From: ironjustice on
On Jun 30, 7:50 am, ironjustice <ironjust...(a)cashette.com> wrote:
thrombosis <<

http://www.guideline.gov/summary/summary.aspx?doc_id=11995

Brief Summary
GUIDELINE TITLE
Guideline for the diagnosis, investigation and management of
polycythaemia/erythrocytosis.


Who loves ya.
Tom


Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh


Man Is A Herbivore!
http://tinyurl.com/4rq595


DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk





> On Jun 30, 7:17 am, ironjustice <ironjust...(a)cashette.com> wrote:
> thrombosis <<
>
> http://tinyurl.com/64dl79
>
> Treatment:
> The objective of treatment is to reduce the high blood viscosity
> (thickness of the blood) due to the increased red blood cell mass and
> to prevent hemorrhage and thrombosis.
>
> Phlebotomy is one method used to reduce the high blood viscosity. In
> phlebotomy, 1 unit (pint) of blood is removed weekly until the
> hematocrit is less than 45, then phlebotomy is continued as necessary.
>
> Occasionally, chemotherapy may be given to suppress the bone marrow.
>
> The use of anti-platelet therapy (such as aspirin) is controversial
> because it may cause gastric bleeding.
>
> Allopurinol is given for hyperuricemia (gout).
>
> Who loves ya.
> Tom
>
> Jesus Was A Vegetarian!http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh
>
> Man Is A Herbivore!http://tinyurl.com/4rq595
>
> DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
>
>
>
> > On Jun 30, 6:56 am, ironjustice <ironjust...(a)cashette.com> wrote:
> > thrombosis <<
>
> >http://qjmed.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/93/8/497
>
> > Q J Med 2000; 93: 497-499
> > © 2000 Association of Physicians
>
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------­­-----
>
> > Editorial
>
> > Warfarin for multiple sclerosis?
>
> > "Today, almost 20 years later, there are enough data to consider
> > antiphospholipid syndrome (APS), or Hughes' syndrome, as a major
> > differential in the diagnosis of definite or probable MS according to
> > Poser's criteria.
>
> > Arterial thrombosis is a major feature of Hughes' syndrome, central
> > nervous system vessels being among the most frequently affected"
>
> > Who loves ya.
> > Tom
>
> > Jesus Was A Vegetarian!http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh
>
> > Man Is A Herbivore!http://tinyurl.com/4rq595
>
> > DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
>
> > > On Jun 30, 6:48 am, ironjustice <ironjust...(a)cashette.com> wrote:
> > > thrombosis <<
>
> > > "Phlebotomy to reduce the red cell mass is of prime importance"
>
> > >  http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/468404_2
>
> > > Who loves ya.
> > > Tom
>
> > > Jesus Was A Vegetarian!http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh
>
> > > Man Is A Herbivore!http://tinyurl.com/4rq595
>
> > > DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
>
> > > > The thread is .. thrombosis ..
>
> > > > Thrombosis ..http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thrombosis
>
> > > > Read what thrombosis .. is ..
>
> > > > BE .. thrombosis ..
>
> > > > Say **something** .. about .. **thrombosis** ..
>
> > > > Or .. ? .. stay off **my** thread ..
>
> > > > Too hard for you to understand .. ?
>
> > > > Heh .. heh ..
>
> > > > Must make me .. dangerous ..
>
> > > > Who loves ya.
> > > > Tom
>
> > > > Jesus Was A Vegetarian!http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh
>
> > > > Man Is A Herbivore!http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3
>
> > > >  DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
> > > >  http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
>
> > > > > ROFL!!!   Tommy, mr rustbucket spammer troll, you have no clue what so
> > > > > ever of what I or anyone else knows.  
>
> > > > > You KNOW that flooding multiple news groups with the same posts over and
> > > > > over and over and over again is against most all ISP's terms of service.
> > > > > You still do it whether it has anything to do with the group or not!
> > > > > YOU are the stupid one, but then you already know that and so does
> > > > > everyone else!
>
> > > > > Is it really necessary to keep posting the same thing over and over and
> > > > > over again? Of course not, but since you are a dangerous spammer troll
> > > > > who practices medicine without a license, advertises commercial sites,
> > > > > and practices dangerous breaches of terms of service, you obviously have
> > > > > no regard or concern for any human life.
>
> > > > > When proven wrong, you resort to name calling and foul
> > > > > language---further proof of who you are and what you are!   Sad, so very
> > > > > sad.
> > > > > .
> > > > > .
> > > > > .
> > > > > .
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From: ironjustice on
On Jun 30, 8:14 am, ironjustice <ironjust...(a)cashette.com> wrote:
Guideline for the diagnosis, investigation and management of
polycythaemia/erythrocytosis. <<

"Advise reduction or elimination of factors which may contribute to
apparent erythrocytosis"

This is where we lose .. 'them' ..

They fail to adhere to this .. STANDARD OF CARE ..

Some tell us not to go near .. meat .. when we take antibiotics
because OF .. ? .. iron ..

Iron is KNOWN to increase red blood cell production.

THAT is why they inject iron INTO .. you.

Isn't .. it .. ?

Well .. isn't it .. ?

They don't tell you not to go near high iron foods .. do they ..

Now .. WHY .. is that .. ?

WHY wouldn't they tell us that "INCREASED IRON CAUSES INCREASED RED
BLOOD CELL PRODUCTION" ..

They don't know .. that .. ?

They are chickensht sonsabtches .. ?

Heh .. heh ..


Who loves ya.
Tom


Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh


Man Is A Herbivore!
http://tinyurl.com/4rq595


DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk



> On Jun 30, 7:50 am, ironjustice <ironjust...(a)cashette.com> wrote:
> thrombosis <<
>
> http://www.guideline.gov/summary/summary.aspx?doc_id=11995
>
> Brief Summary
> GUIDELINE TITLE
> Guideline for the diagnosis, investigation and management of
> polycythaemia/erythrocytosis.
>
> Who loves ya.
> Tom
>
> Jesus Was A Vegetarian!http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh
>
> Man Is A Herbivore!http://tinyurl.com/4rq595
>
> DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
>
>
>
> > On Jun 30, 7:17 am, ironjustice <ironjust...(a)cashette.com> wrote:
> > thrombosis <<
>
> >http://tinyurl.com/64dl79
>
> > Treatment:
> > The objective of treatment is to reduce the high blood viscosity
> > (thickness of the blood) due to the increased red blood cell mass and
> > to prevent hemorrhage and thrombosis.
>
> > Phlebotomy is one method used to reduce the high blood viscosity. In
> > phlebotomy, 1 unit (pint) of blood is removed weekly until the
> > hematocrit is less than 45, then phlebotomy is continued as necessary.
>
> > Occasionally, chemotherapy may be given to suppress the bone marrow.
>
> > The use of anti-platelet therapy (such as aspirin) is controversial
> > because it may cause gastric bleeding.
>
> > Allopurinol is given for hyperuricemia (gout).
>
> > Who loves ya.
> > Tom
>
> > Jesus Was A Vegetarian!http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh
>
> > Man Is A Herbivore!http://tinyurl.com/4rq595
>
> > DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
>
> > > On Jun 30, 6:56 am, ironjustice <ironjust...(a)cashette.com> wrote:
> > > thrombosis <<
>
> > >http://qjmed.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/93/8/497
>
> > > Q J Med 2000; 93: 497-499
> > > © 2000 Association of Physicians
>
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------­­­-----
>
> > > Editorial
>
> > > Warfarin for multiple sclerosis?
>
> > > "Today, almost 20 years later, there are enough data to consider
> > > antiphospholipid syndrome (APS), or Hughes' syndrome, as a major
> > > differential in the diagnosis of definite or probable MS according to
> > > Poser's criteria.
>
> > > Arterial thrombosis is a major feature of Hughes' syndrome, central
> > > nervous system vessels being among the most frequently affected"
>
> > > Who loves ya.
> > > Tom
>
> > > Jesus Was A Vegetarian!http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh
>
> > > Man Is A Herbivore!http://tinyurl.com/4rq595
>
> > > DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
>
> > > > On Jun 30, 6:48 am, ironjustice <ironjust...(a)cashette.com> wrote:
> > > > thrombosis <<
>
> > > > "Phlebotomy to reduce the red cell mass is of prime importance"
>
> > > >  http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/468404_2
>
> > > > Who loves ya.
> > > > Tom
>
> > > > Jesus Was A Vegetarian!http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh
>
> > > > Man Is A Herbivore!http://tinyurl.com/4rq595
>
> > > > DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
>
> > > > > The thread is .. thrombosis ..
>
> > > > > Thrombosis ..http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thrombosis
>
> > > > > Read what thrombosis .. is ..
>
> > > > > BE .. thrombosis ..
>
> > > > > Say **something** .. about .. **thrombosis** ..
>
> > > > > Or .. ? .. stay off **my** thread ..
>
> > > > > Too hard for you to understand .. ?
>
> > > > > Heh .. heh ..
>
> > > > > Must make me .. dangerous ..
>
> > > > > Who loves ya.
> > > > > Tom
>
> > > > > Jesus Was A Vegetarian!http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh
>
> > > > > Man Is A Herbivore!http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3
>
> > > > >  DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
> > > > >  http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
>
> > > > > > ROFL!!!   Tommy, mr rustbucket spammer troll, you have no clue what so
> > > > > > ever of what I or anyone else knows.  
>
> > > > > > You KNOW that flooding multiple news groups with the same posts over and
> > > > > > over and over and over again is against most all ISP's terms of service.
> > > > > > You still do it whether it has anything to do with the group or not!
> > > > > > YOU are the stupid one, but then you already know that and so does
> > > > > > everyone else!
>
> > > > > > Is it really necessary to keep posting the same thing over and over and
> > > > > > over again? Of course not, but since you are a dangerous spammer troll
> > > > > > who practices medicine without a license, advertises commercial sites,
> > > > > > and practices dangerous breaches of terms of service, you obviously have
> > > > > > no regard or concern for any human life.
>
> > > > > > When proven wrong, you resort to name calling and foul
> > > > > > language---further proof of who you are and what you are!   Sad, so very
> > > > > > sad.
> > > > > > .
> > > > > > .
> > > > > > .
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From: ironjustice on
On Jun 30, 8:25 am, ironjustice <ironjust...(a)cashette.com> wrote:
INCREASED IRON CAUSES INCREASED RED BLOOD CELL PRODUCTION <<

http://www.merck.com/mmpe/sec11/ch130/ch130b.html

"Iron absorption is best when food contains heme iron (meat). Dietary
nonheme iron must be reduced to the ferrous state and released from
food binders by gastric secretions. Nonheme iron absorption is reduced
by other food items (eg, vegetable fiber phytates and polyphenols; tea
tannates, including phosphoproteins; bran) and certain antibiotics
(eg, tetracycline). Ascorbic acid is the only common food element
known to increase nonheme iron absorption."

They didn't mention vitamin C also causes heme iron absorption to
rise.
Sooo .. your glass of OJ (hi Gene) in the morning WITH your bacon /
heme iron .. is gonna give you a jolt of iron which should last you
for a week ..

Who loves ya.
Tom


Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh


Man Is A Herbivore!
http://tinyurl.com/4rq595


DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk




> On Jun 30, 8:14 am, ironjustice <ironjust...(a)cashette.com> wrote:
> Guideline for the diagnosis, investigation and management of
> polycythaemia/erythrocytosis. <<
>
> "Advise reduction or elimination of factors which may contribute to
> apparent erythrocytosis"
>
> This is where we lose .. 'them' ..
>
> They fail to adhere to this .. STANDARD OF CARE ..
>
> Some tell us not to go near .. meat .. when we take antibiotics
> because OF .. ? .. iron ..
>
> Iron is KNOWN to increase red blood cell production.
>
> THAT is why they inject iron INTO .. you.
>
> Isn't .. it .. ?
>
> Well .. isn't it .. ?
>
> They don't tell you not to go near high iron foods .. do they ..
>
> Now .. WHY .. is that .. ?
>
> WHY wouldn't they tell us that "INCREASED IRON CAUSES INCREASED RED
> BLOOD CELL PRODUCTION" ..
>
> They don't know .. that .. ?
>
> They are chickensht sonsabtches .. ?
>
> Heh .. heh ..
>
> Who loves ya.
> Tom
>
> Jesus Was A Vegetarian!http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh
>
> Man Is A Herbivore!http://tinyurl.com/4rq595
>
> DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
>
>
>
> > On Jun 30, 7:50 am, ironjustice <ironjust...(a)cashette.com> wrote:
> > thrombosis <<
>
> >http://www.guideline.gov/summary/summary.aspx?doc_id=11995
>
> > Brief Summary
> > GUIDELINE TITLE
> > Guideline for the diagnosis, investigation and management of
> > polycythaemia/erythrocytosis.
>
> > Who loves ya.
> > Tom
>
> > Jesus Was A Vegetarian!http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh
>
> > Man Is A Herbivore!http://tinyurl.com/4rq595
>
> > DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
>
> > > On Jun 30, 7:17 am, ironjustice <ironjust...(a)cashette.com> wrote:
> > > thrombosis <<
>
> > >http://tinyurl.com/64dl79
>
> > > Treatment:
> > > The objective of treatment is to reduce the high blood viscosity
> > > (thickness of the blood) due to the increased red blood cell mass and
> > > to prevent hemorrhage and thrombosis.
>
> > > Phlebotomy is one method used to reduce the high blood viscosity. In
> > > phlebotomy, 1 unit (pint) of blood is removed weekly until the
> > > hematocrit is less than 45, then phlebotomy is continued as necessary.
>
> > > Occasionally, chemotherapy may be given to suppress the bone marrow.
>
> > > The use of anti-platelet therapy (such as aspirin) is controversial
> > > because it may cause gastric bleeding.
>
> > > Allopurinol is given for hyperuricemia (gout).
>
> > > Who loves ya.
> > > Tom
>
> > > Jesus Was A Vegetarian!http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh
>
> > > Man Is A Herbivore!http://tinyurl.com/4rq595
>
> > > DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
>
> > > > On Jun 30, 6:56 am, ironjustice <ironjust...(a)cashette.com> wrote:
> > > > thrombosis <<
>
> > > >http://qjmed.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/93/8/497
>
> > > > Q J Med 2000; 93: 497-499
> > > > © 2000 Association of Physicians
>
> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------­­­­-----
>
> > > > Editorial
>
> > > > Warfarin for multiple sclerosis?
>
> > > > "Today, almost 20 years later, there are enough data to consider
> > > > antiphospholipid syndrome (APS), or Hughes' syndrome, as a major
> > > > differential in the diagnosis of definite or probable MS according to
> > > > Poser's criteria.
>
> > > > Arterial thrombosis is a major feature of Hughes' syndrome, central
> > > > nervous system vessels being among the most frequently affected"
>
> > > > Who loves ya.
> > > > Tom
>
> > > > Jesus Was A Vegetarian!http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh
>
> > > > Man Is A Herbivore!http://tinyurl.com/4rq595
>
> > > > DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
>
> > > > > On Jun 30, 6:48 am, ironjustice <ironjust...(a)cashette.com> wrote:
> > > > > thrombosis <<
>
> > > > > "Phlebotomy to reduce the red cell mass is of prime importance"
>
> > > > >  http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/468404_2
>
> > > > > Who loves ya.
> > > > > Tom
>
> > > > > Jesus Was A Vegetarian!http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh
>
> > > > > Man Is A Herbivore!http://tinyurl.com/4rq595
>
> > > > > DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
>
> > > > > > The thread is .. thrombosis ..
>
> > > > > > Thrombosis ..http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thrombosis
>
> > > > > > Read what thrombosis .. is ..
>
> > > > > > BE .. thrombosis ..
>
> > > > > > Say **something** .. about .. **thrombosis** ..
>
> > > > > > Or .. ? .. stay off **my** thread ..
>
> > > > > > Too hard for you to understand .. ?
>
> > > > > > Heh .. heh ..
>
> > > > > > Must make me .. dangerous ..
>
> > > > > > Who loves ya.
> > > > > > Tom
>
> > > > > > Jesus Was A Vegetarian!http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh
>
> > > > > > Man Is A Herbivore!http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3
>
> > > > > >  DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
> > > > > >  http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
>
> > > > > > > ROFL!!!   Tommy, mr rustbucket spammer troll, you have no clue what so
> > > > > > > ever of what I or anyone else knows.  
>
> > > > > > > You KNOW that flooding multiple news groups with the same posts over and
> > > > > > > over and over and over again is against most all ISP's terms of service.
> > > > > > > You still do it whether it has anything to do with the group or not!
> > > > > > > YOU are the stupid one, but then you already know that and so does
> > > > > > > everyone else!
>
> > > > > > > Is it really necessary to keep posting the same thing over and over and
> > > > > > > over again? Of course not, but since you are a dangerous spammer troll
> > > > > > > who practices medicine without a license, advertises commercial sites,
> > > > > > > and practices dangerous breaches of terms of service, you obviously have
> > > > > > > no regard or concern for any human life.
>
> > > > > > > When proven wrong, you resort to name calling and foul
> > > > > > > language---further proof of who you are and what you are!   Sad, so very
> > > > > > > sad.
> > > > > > > .
> > > > > > > .
> > > > > > > .
> > > > > > > .
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From: ironjustice on
On Jun 30, 8:39 am, ironjustice <ironjust...(a)cashette.com> wrote:
elevated serum homocysteine <<

Silent Cerebral Infarction Reported in 10% of Healthy People

DALLAS -- June 26, 2008 -- A recent study found that about 10% of the
apparently healthy middle-aged participants with no symptoms of stroke
were injured from silent cerebral infarction (SCI) researchers report
in Stroke: Journal of the American Heart Association.

"The findings reinforce the need for early detection and treatment of
cardiovascular risk factors in midlife," said co-author of the study,
Sudha Seshadri, MD, Boston University School of Medicine, Boston,
Massachusetts. "This is especially true since SCIs have been
associated with an increased risk of incident stroke and cognitive
impairment."

Researchers evaluated magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) from about
2,000 people aged an average of 62 years, who are part of the
Framingham Offspring Study. Among patients who displayed no symptoms
of stroke, 10.7% had SCIs on routine brain MRI, researchers said.
Previous estimates of SCIs ranged from 5.8% to 17.7% depending on age,
ethnicity, and other issues. Of those in the study with SCIs, 84% had
a single lesion.

The study is the first to correlate the total score of the Framingham
Stroke Risk Profile to prevalence of SCI. All the components of the
Framingham Stroke Risk Profile were positively associated with an
increased prevalence of SCI. Also for the first time, researchers
found a significant correlation between atrial fibrillation (AF) and
silent cerebral infarction. High systolic blood pressure,
hypertension, and elevated levels of blood homocysteine, were other
risk factors commonly associated with stroke that also raised
participants' chances of having SCI.

"In our data, AF increased the risk of prevalent SCI more than 2-
fold," said Dr. Seshadri. "The significant relationship between
hypertension, elevated serum homocysteine, carotid artery disease, and
prevalent SCI underscores the importance of current guidelines for the
early diagnosis and prevention of hypertension and atherosclerosis and
their risk factors."

Unfortunately, the observational data could not indicate if screening
for, and appropriately treating AF, would reduce the population burden
of silent stroke, researchers said.


SOURCE: American Heart Association


Who loves ya.
Tom


Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh


Man Is A Herbivore!
http://tinyurl.com/4rq595


DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk




> On Jun 30, 8:25 am, ironjustice <ironjust...(a)cashette.com> wrote:
> INCREASED IRON CAUSES INCREASED RED BLOOD CELL PRODUCTION <<
>
> http://www.merck.com/mmpe/sec11/ch130/ch130b.html
>
> "Iron absorption is best when food contains heme iron (meat). Dietary
> nonheme iron must be reduced to the ferrous state and released from
> food binders by gastric secretions. Nonheme iron absorption is reduced
> by other food items (eg, vegetable fiber phytates and polyphenols; tea
> tannates, including phosphoproteins; bran) and certain antibiotics
> (eg, tetracycline). Ascorbic acid is the only common food element
> known to increase nonheme iron absorption."
>
> They didn't mention vitamin C also causes heme iron absorption to
> rise.
> Sooo .. your glass of OJ (hi Gene) in the morning WITH your bacon /
> heme iron .. is gonna give you a jolt of iron which should last you
> for a week ..
>
> Who loves ya.
> Tom
>
> Jesus Was A Vegetarian!http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh
>
> Man Is A Herbivore!http://tinyurl.com/4rq595
>
> DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
>
>
>
> > On Jun 30, 8:14 am, ironjustice <ironjust...(a)cashette.com> wrote:
> > Guideline for the diagnosis, investigation and management of
> > polycythaemia/erythrocytosis. <<
>
> > "Advise reduction or elimination of factors which may contribute to
> > apparent erythrocytosis"
>
> > This is where we lose .. 'them' ..
>
> > They fail to adhere to this .. STANDARD OF CARE ..
>
> > Some tell us not to go near .. meat .. when we take antibiotics
> > because OF .. ? .. iron ..
>
> > Iron is KNOWN to increase red blood cell production.
>
> > THAT is why they inject iron INTO .. you.
>
> > Isn't .. it .. ?
>
> > Well .. isn't it .. ?
>
> > They don't tell you not to go near high iron foods .. do they ..
>
> > Now .. WHY .. is that .. ?
>
> > WHY wouldn't they tell us that "INCREASED IRON CAUSES INCREASED RED
> > BLOOD CELL PRODUCTION" ..
>
> > They don't know .. that .. ?
>
> > They are chickensht sonsabtches .. ?
>
> > Heh .. heh ..
>
> > Who loves ya.
> > Tom
>
> > Jesus Was A Vegetarian!http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh
>
> > Man Is A Herbivore!http://tinyurl.com/4rq595
>
> > DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
>
> > > On Jun 30, 7:50 am, ironjustice <ironjust...(a)cashette.com> wrote:
> > > thrombosis <<
>
> > >http://www.guideline.gov/summary/summary.aspx?doc_id=11995
>
> > > Brief Summary
> > > GUIDELINE TITLE
> > > Guideline for the diagnosis, investigation and management of
> > > polycythaemia/erythrocytosis.
>
> > > Who loves ya.
> > > Tom
>
> > > Jesus Was A Vegetarian!http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh
>
> > > Man Is A Herbivore!http://tinyurl.com/4rq595
>
> > > DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
>
> > > > On Jun 30, 7:17 am, ironjustice <ironjust...(a)cashette.com> wrote:
> > > > thrombosis <<
>
> > > >http://tinyurl.com/64dl79
>
> > > > Treatment:
> > > > The objective of treatment is to reduce the high blood viscosity
> > > > (thickness of the blood) due to the increased red blood cell mass and
> > > > to prevent hemorrhage and thrombosis.
>
> > > > Phlebotomy is one method used to reduce the high blood viscosity. In
> > > > phlebotomy, 1 unit (pint) of blood is removed weekly until the
> > > > hematocrit is less than 45, then phlebotomy is continued as necessary.
>
> > > > Occasionally, chemotherapy may be given to suppress the bone marrow..
>
> > > > The use of anti-platelet therapy (such as aspirin) is controversial
> > > > because it may cause gastric bleeding.
>
> > > > Allopurinol is given for hyperuricemia (gout).
>
> > > > Who loves ya.
> > > > Tom
>
> > > > Jesus Was A Vegetarian!http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh
>
> > > > Man Is A Herbivore!http://tinyurl.com/4rq595
>
> > > > DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
>
> > > > > On Jun 30, 6:56 am, ironjustice <ironjust...(a)cashette.com> wrote:
> > > > > thrombosis <<
>
> > > > >http://qjmed.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/93/8/497
>
> > > > > Q J Med 2000; 93: 497-499
> > > > > © 2000 Association of Physicians
>
> > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------­­­­­-----
>
> > > > > Editorial
>
> > > > > Warfarin for multiple sclerosis?
>
> > > > > "Today, almost 20 years later, there are enough data to consider
> > > > > antiphospholipid syndrome (APS), or Hughes' syndrome, as a major
> > > > > differential in the diagnosis of definite or probable MS according to
> > > > > Poser's criteria.
>
> > > > > Arterial thrombosis is a major feature of Hughes' syndrome, central
> > > > > nervous system vessels being among the most frequently affected"
>
> > > > > Who loves ya.
> > > > > Tom
>
> > > > > Jesus Was A Vegetarian!http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh
>
> > > > > Man Is A Herbivore!http://tinyurl.com/4rq595
>
> > > > > DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
>
> > > > > > On Jun 30, 6:48 am, ironjustice <ironjust...(a)cashette.com> wrote:
> > > > > > thrombosis <<
>
> > > > > > "Phlebotomy to reduce the red cell mass is of prime importance"
>
> > > > > > http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/468404_2
>
> > > > > > Who loves ya.
> > > > > > Tom
>
> > > > > > Jesus Was A Vegetarian!http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh
>
> > > > > > Man Is A Herbivore!http://tinyurl.com/4rq595
>
> > > > > > DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
>
> > > > > > > The thread is .. thrombosis ..
>
> > > > > > > Thrombosis ..http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thrombosis
>
> > > > > > > Read what thrombosis .. is ..
>
> > > > > > > BE .. thrombosis ..
>
> > > > > > > Say **something** .. about .. **thrombosis** ..
>
> > > > > > > Or .. ? .. stay off **my** thread ..
>
> > > > > > > Too hard for you to understand .. ?
>
> > > > > > > Heh .. heh ..
>
> > > > > > > Must make me .. dangerous ..
>
> > > > > > > Who loves ya.
> > > > > > > Tom
>
> > > > > > > Jesus Was A Vegetarian!http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh
>
> > > > > > > Man Is A Herbivore!http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3
>
> > > > > > > DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
> > > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
>
> > > > > > > > ROFL!!! Tommy, mr rustbucket spammer troll, you have no clue what so
> > > > > > > > ever of what I or anyone else knows.
>
> > > > > > > > You KNOW that flooding multiple news groups with the same posts over and
> > > > > > > > over and over and over again is against most all ISP's terms of service.
> > > > > > > > You still do it whether it has anything to do with the group or not!
> > > > > > > > YOU are the stupid one, but then you already know that and so does
> > > > > > > > everyone else!
>
> > > > > > > > Is it really necessary to keep posting the same thing over and over and
> > > > > > > > over again? Of course not, but since you are a dangerous spammer troll
> > > > > > > > who practices medicine without a license, advertises commercial sites,
> > > > > > > > and practices dangerous breaches of terms of service, you obviously have
> > > > > > > > no regard or concern for any human life.
>
> > > > > > > > When proven wrong, you resort to name calling and foul
> > > > > > > > language---further proof of who you are and what you are! Sad, so very
> > > > > > > > sad.
> > > > > > > > .
> > > > > > > > .
> > > > > > > > .
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From: ironjustice on
On Jun 30, 9:01 am, "ironjust...(a)aol.com" <ironjust...(a)aol.com> wrote:
Imatinib mesylate <<

Isn't this special that the drug used to treat **polycythemia** is
also VERY effective in arthritis .. lupus .. diabetes .. multiple
sclerosis .. ?

"Imatinib mesylate produces 75% lasting remissions in polycythemia"

Nihon Rinsho Meneki Gakkai Kaishi. 2007 Jun ;30 (3):165-73 17603257
(P,S,E,B) Imatinib mesylate as a novel therapeutic drug for systemic
rheumatic diseases.

[My paper] Hideto Kameda
Division of Rheumatology/Clinical Immunology, Department of Internal
Medicine, Saitama Medical Center, Saitama Medical University.
Platelet-derived growth factor (PDGF) is a topic in the
pathophysiology of various systemic rheumatic diseases.
For example, autoantibody against PDGF receptor was identified in
patients with systemic sclerosis.
Imatinib mesylate has been well tolerable and widely used for chronic
myeloid leukemia and gastrointestinal stromal tomor.
Imatinib also inhibits the activation of c-Abl, which is a key
downstream molecule of transforming growth factor-beta signaling, and
PDGF receptors.
Thus, imatinib effectively suppresses the activation and proliferation
of fibroblasts, mesangial cells and smooth muscle cells.
Therefore, imatinib may overcome the limitation of current therapeutic
strategy with corticosteroids and immunosuppressive agents for
refractory diseases

-------------------------------

Imatinib mesylate both prevents and treats the arthritis induced by
type II collagen antibody in mice
Journal Modern Rheumatology

ORIGINAL ARTICLE
Imatinib mesylate both prevents and treats the arthritis induced by
type II collagen antibody in mice
Kensuke Koyama1, 2 , Kyosuke Hatsushika1, Takashi Ando1, Michitomo
Sakuma1, Masanori Wako1, Ryohei Kato3, Hirotaka Haro2, Hajime
Sugiyama2, Yoshiki Hamada2, Hideoki Ogawa4 and Atsuhito Nakao1, 4

(1) Department of Immunology, Faculty of Medicine, University of
Yamanashi, Yamanashi, Japan
(2) Department of Orthopaedic Surgery, Faculty of Medicine,
University of Yamanashi, 1110 Shimokato, Chuo, Yamanashi 409-3898,
Japan
(3) Department of Human Pathology, Faculty of Medicine, University of
Yamanashi, Yamanashi, Japan
(4) Atopy Research Center, Juntendo University School of Medicine,
Tokyo, Japan

Received: 08 February 2007 Accepted: 01 May 2007 Published online:
20 August 2007

Abstract Rheumatoid arthritis (RA) is a chronic inflammatory disease
that is associated with joint destruction.
Imatinib mesylate (imatinib) is an inhibitor that specifically targets
a set of protein tyrosine kinase, such as abl, c-kit, and platelet-
derived growth factor receptor (PDGFR) and it is widely used to treat
chronic myeloid leukemia (CML).
The purpose of the present study is to determine whether imatinib can
provide benefit in the arthritis induced by anti-collagen type II
antibody (CAIA) in mice, a model that provides an opportunity to study
the effector inflammatory phase of arthritis without involving the
priming phase of the immune responses.
Mice treated with intraperitoneal administration of imatinib (1 or 10
mg/kg) prior to the development of CAIA displayed significant
reductions in the severity of CAIA as assessed by arthritis score,
histology, and synovial PDGF and vascular endothelial growth factor
expression.
In addition, treatment of the mice that had developed CAIA with
intraperitoneal administration of imatinib (1 or 10 mg/kg) inhibited
the progression of arthritis as assessed by those parameters.
These results suggest that imatinib prevents and treats CAIA.
Imatinib may thus have both a preventive and therapeutic potential for
the joint inflammation at the effector stage of RA.
Key words Anti-collagen type II antibody-induced arthritis (CAIA) -
Imatinib mesylate - Rheumatoid arthritis



Kensuke Koyama
Email: vesupanomusuko(a)yahoo.co.jp



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Update on the treatment of polycythemia vera with recombinant
interferon alfa or imatinib mesylate
Journal Current Hematologic Malignancy Reports

Update on the treatment of polycythemia vera with recombinant
interferon alfa or imatinib mesylate
Richard T. Silver1

(1) New York-Presbyterian Hospital/Weill Cornell Medical Center, 1300
York Avenue, Box 581, New York, NY 10021, USA

Published online: 15 April 2007

Abstract Polycythemia vera is a myeloproliferative disease, which, if
untreated, leads to thrombohemorrhagic complications and eventually to
progressive myelofibrosis, anemia, and splenomegaly. Two newly
available drugs, interferon alfa and imatinib mesylate, may alter the
course of this disease. Used as single agents, each produces lasting
remissions in about 75% of patients with polycythemia vera. Of
significance, change in JAK2 expression has been reported after
treatment with both agents.

Richard T. Silver
Email: rtsilve(a)med.cornell.edu

Publisher Current Medicine Group LLC
ISSN 1558-8211 (Print) 1558-822X (Online)
Issue Volume 2, Number 1 / February, 2007
DOI 10.1007/s11899-007-0006-2

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Published as doi: 10.1096/fj.06-6910com.
(The FASEB Journal. 2007;21:618-628.)
© 2007 FASEB

Amelioration of diabetes by imatinib mesylate (Gleevec®): role of ß-
cell NF-B activation and anti-apoptotic preconditioning
Robert Hägerkvist, Stellan Sandler, Dariush Mokhtari and Nils Welsh
Department of Medical Cell Biology, Uppsala University, Biomedicum,
Uppsala, Sweden

1Correspondence: Department of Medical Cell Biology, Uppsala
University, Biomedicum, P.O. Box 571, SE-75123 Uppsala, Sweden. E-
mail: Nils.Welsh(a)medcellbiol.uu.se06-6910com

It was recently reported that tyrosine kinase inhibitor imatinib
mesylate (Gleevec®) improves Type 2 diabetes, possibly by decreasing
insulin resistance.
However, as both Type 2 and Type 1 diabetes are characterized by ß-
cell dysfunction and death, we investigated whether imatinib
counteracts diabetes by maintaining ß-cell function.
We observed that imatinib counteracted diabetes in two animal models,
the streptozotocin-injected mouse and the nonobese diabetes mouse, and
that this was paralleled by a partial preservation of the ß-cell
mass.
In addition, imatinib decreased the death of human ß-cells in vitro
when exposed to NO, cytokines, and streptozotocin.
The imatinib effect was mimicked by siRNA-mediated knockdown of c-Abl
mRNA. Imatinib enhanced ß-cell survival by promoting a state similar
to ischemic preconditioning, as evidenced by NF-B activation,
increased NO and reactive oxygen species production, and
depolarization of the inner mitochondrial membrane.
Imatinib did not suppress islet cell death in the presence of an NF-B
inhibitor, suggesting that NF-B activation is a necessary step in the
antiapoptotic action of imatinib.
We conclude that imatinib mediates ß-cell survival and that this could
contribute to the beneficial effects observed in diabetes.
—Hägerkvist, R., Sandler, S., Mokhtari, D., Welsh, N. Amelioration of
diabetes by imatinib mesylate (Gleevec®): role of ß-cell NF-B
activation and anti-apoptotic preconditioning.

Key Words: pancreatic islet • c-Abl • NO
--------------------------
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1564430

In addition to potentially providing benefit in RA, it is anticipated
that imatinib could also provide efficacy in other autoimmune
diseases. A patient with psoriasis exhibited clinical improvement
following treatment with imatinib for a concomitant malignancy (55).
Imatinib ameliorated glomerulonephritis in MRL/lpr mice, and this
effect was attributed to inhibition of PDGFR (56). Mast cells, which
are potently inhibited by imatinib, have been suggested to contribute
to pathogenesis of multiple sclerosis, autoimmune skin diseases, and
inflammatory bowel disease (15). TNF-α is a driver of autoimmune
tissue injury in a spectrum of autoimmune diseases, including RA,
Crohn disease, psoriasis, and multiple sclerosis (57). Although
imatinib-mediated inhibition of macrophage TNF-α production, mast cell
activation and TNF-α release, and autoreactive B and T lymphocyte
activation could provide benefit in many autoimmune diseases,
imatinib’s ability to inhibit PDGFR makes it particularly suited for
the treatment of RA and other diseases in which fibrotic processes
play a central role in pathogenesis.

In conclusion, we have shown that imatinib potently treats CIA and
inhibits multiple signal transduction pathways that drive pathogenic
cellular responses in RA. Our results provide further rationale for
prospective clinical trials to determine whether imatinib provides
efficacy in RA and other autoimmune diseases. Selective tyrosine
kinase inhibition by imatinib and other pharmacologic agents (58)
represents a promising and powerful strategy for the treatment of RA
and other inflammatory diseases.


Who loves ya.
Tom


Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh


Man Is A Herbivore!
http://tinyurl.com/4rq595


DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk







> On Jun 30, 8:39 am, ironjustice <ironjust...(a)cashette.com> wrote:
> elevated serum homocysteine <<
>
> Silent Cerebral Infarction Reported in 10% of Healthy People
>
> DALLAS -- June 26, 2008 -- A recent study found that about 10% of the
> apparently healthy middle-aged participants with no symptoms of stroke
> were injured from silent cerebral infarction (SCI) researchers report
> in Stroke: Journal of the American Heart Association.
>
> "The findings reinforce the need for early detection and treatment of
> cardiovascular risk factors in midlife," said co-author of the study,
> Sudha Seshadri, MD, Boston University School of Medicine, Boston,
> Massachusetts. "This is especially true since SCIs have been
> associated with an increased risk of incident stroke and cognitive
> impairment."
>
> Researchers evaluated magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) from about
> 2,000 people aged an average of 62 years, who are part of the
> Framingham Offspring Study. Among patients who displayed no symptoms
> of stroke, 10.7% had SCIs on routine brain MRI, researchers said.
> Previous estimates of SCIs ranged from 5.8% to 17.7% depending on age,
> ethnicity, and other issues. Of those in the study with SCIs, 84% had
> a single lesion.
>
> The study is the first to correlate the total score of the Framingham
> Stroke Risk Profile to prevalence of SCI. All the components of the
> Framingham Stroke Risk Profile were positively associated with an
> increased prevalence of SCI. Also for the first time, researchers
> found a significant correlation between atrial fibrillation (AF) and
> silent cerebral infarction. High systolic blood pressure,
> hypertension, and elevated levels of blood homocysteine, were other
> risk factors commonly associated with stroke that also raised
> participants' chances of having SCI.
>
> "In our data, AF increased the risk of prevalent SCI more than 2-
> fold," said Dr. Seshadri. "The significant relationship between
> hypertension, elevated serum homocysteine, carotid artery disease, and
> prevalent SCI underscores the importance of current guidelines for the
> early diagnosis and prevention of hypertension and atherosclerosis and
> their risk factors."
>
> Unfortunately, the observational data could not indicate if screening
> for, and appropriately treating AF, would reduce the population burden
> of silent stroke, researchers said.
>
> SOURCE: American Heart Association
>
> Who loves ya.
> Tom
>
> Jesus Was A Vegetarian!http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh
>
> Man Is A Herbivore!http://tinyurl.com/4rq595
>
> DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
>
>
>
> > On Jun 30, 8:25 am, ironjustice <ironjust...(a)cashette.com> wrote:
> > INCREASED IRON CAUSES INCREASED RED BLOOD CELL PRODUCTION <<
>
> >http://www.merck.com/mmpe/sec11/ch130/ch130b.html
>
> > "Iron absorption is best when food contains heme iron (meat). Dietary
> > nonheme iron must be reduced to the ferrous state and released from
> > food binders by gastric secretions. Nonheme iron absorption is reduced
> > by other food items (eg, vegetable fiber phytates and polyphenols; tea
> > tannates, including phosphoproteins; bran) and certain antibiotics
> > (eg, tetracycline). Ascorbic acid is the only common food element
> > known to increase nonheme iron absorption."
>
> > They didn't mention vitamin C also causes heme iron absorption to
> > rise.
> > Sooo .. your glass of OJ (hi Gene) in the morning WITH your bacon /
> > heme iron .. is gonna give you a jolt of iron which should last you
> > for a week ..
>
> > Who loves ya.
> > Tom
>
> > Jesus Was A Vegetarian!http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh
>
> > Man Is A Herbivore!http://tinyurl.com/4rq595
>
> > DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
>
> > > On Jun 30, 8:14 am, ironjustice <ironjust...(a)cashette.com> wrote:
> > > Guideline for the diagnosis, investigation and management of
> > > polycythaemia/erythrocytosis. <<
>
> > > "Advise reduction or elimination of factors which may contribute to
> > > apparent erythrocytosis"
>
> > > This is where we lose .. 'them' ..
>
> > > They fail to adhere to this .. STANDARD OF CARE ..
>
> > > Some tell us not to go near .. meat .. when we take antibiotics
> > > because OF .. ? .. iron ..
>
> > > Iron is KNOWN to increase red blood cell production.
>
> > > THAT is why they inject iron INTO .. you.
>
> > > Isn't .. it .. ?
>
> > > Well .. isn't it .. ?
>
> > > They don't tell you not to go near high iron foods .. do they ..
>
> > > Now .. WHY .. is that .. ?
>
> > > WHY wouldn't they tell us that "INCREASED IRON CAUSES INCREASED RED
> > > BLOOD CELL PRODUCTION" ..
>
> > > They don't know .. that .. ?
>
> > > They are chickensht sonsabtches .. ?
>
> > > Heh .. heh ..
>
> > > Who loves ya.
> > > Tom
>
> > > Jesus Was A Vegetarian!http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh
>
> > > Man Is A Herbivore!http://tinyurl.com/4rq595
>
> > > DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
>
> > > > On Jun 30, 7:50 am, ironjustice <ironjust...(a)cashette.com> wrote:
> > > > thrombosis <<
>
> > > >http://www.guideline.gov/summary/summary.aspx?doc_id=11995
>
> > > > Brief Summary
> > > > GUIDELINE TITLE
> > > > Guideline for the diagnosis, investigation and management of
> > > > polycythaemia/erythrocytosis.
>
> > > > Who loves ya.
> > > > Tom
>
> > > > Jesus Was A Vegetarian!http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh
>
> > > > Man Is A Herbivore!http://tinyurl.com/4rq595
>
> > > > DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
>
> > > > > On Jun 30, 7:17 am, ironjustice <ironjust...(a)cashette.com> wrote:
> > > > > thrombosis <<
>
> > > > >http://tinyurl.com/64dl79
>
> > > > > Treatment:
> > > > > The objective of treatment is to reduce the high blood viscosity
> > > > > (thickness of the blood) due to the increased red blood cell mass and
> > > > > to prevent hemorrhage and thrombosis.
>
> > > > > Phlebotomy is one method used to reduce the high blood viscosity. In
> > > > > phlebotomy, 1 unit (pint) of blood is removed weekly until the
> > > > > hematocrit is less than 45, then phlebotomy is continued as necessary.
>
> > > > > Occasionally, chemotherapy may be given to suppress the bone marrow.
>
> > > > > The use of anti-platelet therapy (such as aspirin) is controversial
> > > > > because it may cause gastric bleeding.
>
> > > > > Allopurinol is given for hyperuricemia (gout).
>
> > > > > Who loves ya.
> > > > > Tom
>
> > > > > Jesus Was A Vegetarian!http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh
>
> > > > > Man Is A Herbivore!http://tinyurl.com/4rq595
>
> > > > > DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
>
> > > > > > On Jun 30, 6:56 am, ironjustice <ironjust...(a)cashette.com> wrote:
> > > > > > thrombosis <<
>
> > > > > >http://qjmed.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/93/8/497
>
> > > > > > Q J Med 2000; 93: 497-499
> > > > > > © 2000 Association of Physicians
>
> > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------­­­­­­-----
>
> > > > > > Editorial
>
> > > > > > Warfarin for multiple sclerosis?
>
> > > > > > "Today, almost 20 years later, there are enough data to consider
> > > > > > antiphospholipid syndrome (APS), or Hughes' syndrome, as a major
> > > > > > differential in the diagnosis of definite or probable MS according to
> > > > > > Poser's criteria.
>
> > > > > > Arterial thrombosis is a major feature of Hughes' syndrome, central
> > > > > > nervous system vessels being among the most frequently affected"
>
> > > > > > Who loves ya.
> > > > > > Tom
>
> > > > > > Jesus Was A Vegetarian!http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh
>
> > > > > > Man Is A Herbivore!http://tinyurl.com/4rq595
>
> > > > > > DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
>
> > > > > > > On Jun 30, 6:48 am, ironjustice <ironjust...(a)cashette.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > thrombosis <<
>
> > > > > > > "Phlebotomy to reduce the red cell mass is of prime importance"
>
> > > > > > >  http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/468404_2
>
> > > > > > > Who loves ya.
> > > > > > > Tom
>
> > > > > > > Jesus Was A Vegetarian!http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh
>
> > > > > > > Man Is A Herbivore!http://tinyurl.com/4rq595
>
> > > > > > > DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
>
> > > > > > > > The thread is .. thrombosis ..
>
> > > > > > > > Thrombosis ..http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thrombosis
>
> > > > > > > > Read what thrombosis .. is ..
>
> > > > > > > > BE .. thrombosis ..
>
> > > > > > > > Say **something** .. about .. **thrombosis** ..
>
> > > > > > > > Or .. ? .. stay off **my** thread ..
>
> > > > > > > > Too hard for you to understand .. ?
>
> > > > > > > > Heh .. heh ..
>
> > > > > > > > Must make me .. dangerous ..
>
> > > > > > > > Who loves ya.
> > > > > > > > Tom
>
> > > > > > > > Jesus Was A Vegetarian!http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh
>
> > > > > > > > Man Is A Herbivore!http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3
>
> > > > > > > >  DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
> > > > > > > >  http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
>
> > > > > > > > > ROFL!!!   Tommy, mr rustbucket spammer troll, you have no clue what so
> > > > > > > > > ever of what I or anyone else knows.
>
> > > > > > > > > You KNOW that flooding multiple news groups with the same posts over and
> > > > > > > > > over and over and over again is against most all ISP's terms of service.
> > > > > > > > > You still do it whether it has anything to do with the group or not!
> > > > > > > > > YOU are the stupid one, but then you already know that and so does
> > > > > > > > > everyone else!
>
> > > > > > > > > Is it really necessary to keep posting the same thing over and over and
> > > > > > > > > over again? Of course not, but since you are a dangerous spammer troll
> > > > > > > > > who practices medicine without a license, advertises commercial sites,
> > > > > > > > > and practices dangerous breaches of terms of service, you obviously have
> > > > > > > > > no regard or concern for any human life.
>
> > > > > > > > > When proven wrong, you resort to name calling and foul
> > > > > > > > > language---further proof of who you are and what you are!   Sad, so very
> > > > > > > > > sad.
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