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From: Rosemary on 1 Feb 2007 23:54 Just wondering, has anybody out there got any experiences of taking phenelzine or some other MAOI and dealing with the dietary restrictions, side-effects, etc? I've had a chat with my mum about her experiences with it as a teenager, but I'd be really interested to see how it's affected other people, too. Thanks, Rosemary
From: Rowland McDonnell on 2 Feb 2007 22:57 Rosemary <mentally_subnormal(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > Just wondering, has anybody out there got any experiences of taking > phenelzine or some other MAOI and dealing with the dietary restrictions, > side-effects, etc? I've had a chat with my mum about her experiences with > it as a teenager, but I'd be really interested to see how it's affected > other people, too. Personally, no, but I knew someone who took reboxetine (reversible MAOI, so not as bad regarding dietry restrictions). The side effects were evil - crabby and irritable all the time, things like that. If you take an MAOI, pay attention to the physical signs your body is displaying. If you're running into trouble with (umm... is this right?) tyramnine overload, you'll notice weirdness before it gets bad. Do not ask where I got this data. I shall not say. And it won't apply to everyone. Rowland. -- Remove the animal for email address: rowland.mcdonnell(a)dog.physics.org Sorry - the spam got to me http://www.mag-uk.org http://www.bmf.co.uk UK biker? Join MAG and the BMF and stop the Eurocrats banning biking
From: Rosemary on 2 Feb 2007 23:13 Rowland McDonnell wrote: > Rosemary wrote: > >> Just wondering, has anybody out there got any experiences of taking >> phenelzine or some other MAOI and dealing with the dietary >> restrictions, side-effects, etc? I've had a chat with my mum about >> her experiences with it as a teenager, but I'd be really interested >> to see how it's affected other people, too. > > Personally, no, but I knew someone who took reboxetine (reversible > MAOI, so not as bad regarding dietry restrictions). The side effects > were evil - crabby and irritable all the time, things like that. > > If you take an MAOI, pay attention to the physical signs your body is > displaying. If you're running into trouble with (umm... is this > right?) tyramnine overload, you'll notice weirdness before it gets > bad. > > Do not ask where I got this data. I shall not say. And it won't > apply to everyone. Thanks for that. I don't know why the doctor wants me to go on phenelzine which like you say is an irreversible MAOI and worse on the dietary front, but I've read one or two things saying that it's the first-line MAOI of choice, for some reason. I think with food the main concern is tyramine, but also dopamine, from broad-bean pods and stuff. There are whole truckloads of other medications I'll have to avoid too, like decongestants, various cold and cough remedies, antihistamines etc. I just really want to hear from real people what it's been like for them, as well as reading the information leaflets and those sorts of things - and I'm a bit loath to just go onto some discussion board devoted to the stuff and read experiences of people who I've never come across before in my life. :-) Rosemary
From: Rowland McDonnell on 3 Feb 2007 13:24 Rosemary <mentally_subnormal(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > Rowland McDonnell wrote: > > Rosemary wrote: > > > >> Just wondering, has anybody out there got any experiences of taking > >> phenelzine or some other MAOI and dealing with the dietary > >> restrictions, side-effects, etc? I've had a chat with my mum about > >> her experiences with it as a teenager, but I'd be really interested > >> to see how it's affected other people, too. [snip] > Thanks for that. I don't know why the doctor wants me to go on phenelzine > which like you say is an irreversible MAOI and worse on the dietary > front, but I've read one or two things saying that it's the first-line > MAOI of choice, for some reason. I think with food the main concern is > tyramine, but also dopamine, from broad-bean pods and stuff. There are > whole truckloads of other medications I'll have to avoid too, like > decongestants, various cold and cough remedies, antihistamines etc. > > I just really want to hear from real people what it's been like for them, Well, yeah, but there doesn't seem to be anyone here with such an experience, does there? - bear that point in mind. That's why I threw in the small about of faintly relevant information I had. > as well as reading the information leaflets and those sorts of things - > and I'm a bit loath to just go onto some discussion board devoted to the > stuff and read experiences of people who I've never come across before in > my life. :-) Well, MAOIs aren't often prescribed these days. I can't think of any reason for prescribing one aside from cheapness. There are a lot of other drug combinations that can be used when the usual treatments have failed - MAOIs are a *very* blunt stick in the way they work, but they're easy to make and out of patent and therefore dirt cheap. If I were you, I'd ask your quack why he's prescribing the drug. If it's `lack of response to the usual drugs' - how about looking into something like L-tryptophan as an adjunct to `whatever else' (it's all in the BNF). I wouldn't take an MAOI myself. But then again, you know my opinions on psychotropic drugs... Rowland. -- Remove the animal for email address: rowland.mcdonnell(a)dog.physics.org Sorry - the spam got to me http://www.mag-uk.org http://www.bmf.co.uk UK biker? Join MAG and the BMF and stop the Eurocrats banning biking
From: Lachlan - Grand Exalted Most High King and Emperor of All the Universe on 3 Feb 2007 19:14
"Rowland McDonnell" <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet> wrote in message news:1hsxxh5.3u5udh1jf41hzN%real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet... > Rosemary <mentally_subnormal(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> Just wondering, has anybody out there got any experiences of taking >> phenelzine or some other MAOI and dealing with the dietary restrictions, >> side-effects, etc? I've had a chat with my mum about her experiences with >> it as a teenager, but I'd be really interested to see how it's affected >> other people, too. > > Personally, no, but I knew someone who took reboxetine (reversible MAOI, > so not as bad regarding dietry restrictions). The side effects were > evil - crabby and irritable all the time, things like that. > > If you take an MAOI, pay attention to the physical signs your body is > displaying. If you're running into trouble with (umm... is this > right?) tyramnine overload, you'll notice weirdness before it gets bad. > > Do not ask where I got this data. I shall not say. And it won't apply > to everyone. > > Rowland. > > -- > Remove the animal for email address: rowland.mcdonnell(a)dog.physics.org > Sorry - the spam got to me > http://www.mag-uk.org http://www.bmf.co.uk > UK biker? Join MAG and the BMF and stop the Eurocrats banning biking |