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From: Richard Evans on 17 Jul 2008 16:39 Chuck <chuckh1958_nospam(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >I'm not saying that you claimed they had any credentials. Just posing a >question myself. Why would anyone listen to what Penn and Teller have to >say about sleep and/or sleep disorders? I wouldn't listen to anything they had to say about sleep disorders, but I would certainly listen to anything they had to say about quack cures for sleep disorders. > They're magicians. They're >masters of deception, And if I'm not mistaken they've already >demonstrated that they have strong political and anti-religious biases >in some of the other tv shows they've done. And those biases have affected the truth of those shows exacly how? Now look at the people they debunk. Do those people have strong biases? Do their biases affect the truth of what they are selling? You betcha. Who do I trust? P&T, every time. >It's kind of like having >Michael Moore discuss the neo-conservative movement. He both knows >anything about it, has a predetermined agenda in mind, and in then end >you won't be able to believe a word he says. So having an agenda is Bad if you don't agree with it, but Good if you do?
From: Chuck on 17 Jul 2008 17:29 Richard Evans wrote: > Chuck <chuckh1958_nospam(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> I'm not saying that you claimed they had any credentials. Just posing a >> question myself. Why would anyone listen to what Penn and Teller have to >> say about sleep and/or sleep disorders? > > I wouldn't listen to anything they had to say about sleep disorders, > but I would certainly listen to anything they had to say about quack > cures for sleep disorders. > >> They're magicians. They're >> masters of deception, And if I'm not mistaken they've already >> demonstrated that they have strong political and anti-religious biases >> in some of the other tv shows they've done. > > And those biases have affected the truth of those shows exacly how? If you can't figure it out you're already in big trouble. People with biases have already decided the outcome before they even know the facts.
From: Richard Evans on 17 Jul 2008 19:14 Chuck <chuckh1958_nospam(a)gmail.com> wrote: >Richard Evans wrote: >> Chuck <chuckh1958_nospam(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I'm not saying that you claimed they had any credentials. Just posing a >>> question myself. Why would anyone listen to what Penn and Teller have to >>> say about sleep and/or sleep disorders? >> >> I wouldn't listen to anything they had to say about sleep disorders, >> but I would certainly listen to anything they had to say about quack >> cures for sleep disorders. >> >>> They're magicians. They're >>> masters of deception, And if I'm not mistaken they've already >>> demonstrated that they have strong political and anti-religious biases >>> in some of the other tv shows they've done. >> >> And those biases have affected the truth of those shows exacly how? > >If you can't figure it out you're already in big trouble. People with >biases have already decided the outcome before they even know the facts. Ah yes. The time-honored tactic of "I can't answer the question, therefore I dismiss it." You are quite good at it.
From: Richard Evans on 20 Jul 2008 06:58 Richard Evans <infodex(a)mindspring.com> wrote: >Chuck <chuckh1958_nospam(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >>Richard Evans wrote: >>> Chuck <chuckh1958_nospam(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I'm not saying that you claimed they had any credentials. Just posing a >>>> question myself. Why would anyone listen to what Penn and Teller have to >>>> say about sleep and/or sleep disorders? >>> >>> I wouldn't listen to anything they had to say about sleep disorders, >>> but I would certainly listen to anything they had to say about quack >>> cures for sleep disorders. >>> >>>> They're magicians. They're >>>> masters of deception, And if I'm not mistaken they've already >>>> demonstrated that they have strong political and anti-religious biases >>>> in some of the other tv shows they've done. >>> >>> And those biases have affected the truth of those shows exacly how? >> >>If you can't figure it out you're already in big trouble. People with >>biases have already decided the outcome before they even know the facts. > > >Ah yes. The time-honored tactic of "I can't answer the question, >therefore I dismiss it." > >You are quite good at it. OK, the show has aired. It took a sympathetic view of sleep disorders and concentrated on debunking supposed cures for sleep disorders, Perhaps now you will deign to explain to us poor unwashed masses how their biases in any way affected the truth of what they said. Or are you saying we should keep an open mind about the $4k-plus Korean infrared, amethyst crystal heating pad that not only helps you sleep but cures cancer?
From: Chuck on 21 Jul 2008 15:24
Richard Evans wrote: > Richard Evans <infodex(a)mindspring.com> wrote: > >> Chuck <chuckh1958_nospam(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Richard Evans wrote: >>>> Chuck <chuckh1958_nospam(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I'm not saying that you claimed they had any credentials. Just posing a >>>>> question myself. Why would anyone listen to what Penn and Teller have to >>>>> say about sleep and/or sleep disorders? >>>> I wouldn't listen to anything they had to say about sleep disorders, >>>> but I would certainly listen to anything they had to say about quack >>>> cures for sleep disorders. >>>> >>>>> They're magicians. They're >>>>> masters of deception, And if I'm not mistaken they've already >>>>> demonstrated that they have strong political and anti-religious biases >>>>> in some of the other tv shows they've done. >>>> And those biases have affected the truth of those shows exacly how? >>> If you can't figure it out you're already in big trouble. People with >>> biases have already decided the outcome before they even know the facts. >> >> Ah yes. The time-honored tactic of "I can't answer the question, >> therefore I dismiss it." >> >> You are quite good at it. > > OK, the show has aired. It took a sympathetic view of sleep disorders > and concentrated on debunking supposed cures for sleep disorders, > Perhaps now you will deign to explain to us poor unwashed masses how > their biases in any way affected the truth of what they said. > > Or are you saying we should keep an open mind about the $4k-plus > Korean infrared, amethyst crystal heating pad that not only helps you > sleep but cures cancer? > I'm saying that Penn and Teller are not experts on the subject and anything the say should be taken with a grain of salt. |